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BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing

22 Nov 12 - 02:04 AM (#3440249)
Subject: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

What were you doing that day?
How did it affect you?
Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone?
Who do you think was behind it?
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 04:44 AM (#3440291)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle

Abraham Lincoln...?


22 Nov 12 - 04:50 AM (#3440293)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Jack Campin

And the anniversary of this:

the death of Aldous Huxley


22 Nov 12 - 04:51 AM (#3440294)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

The mob? The commies? The Klan? Nixon? The CIA?
=(:-( 0)


22 Nov 12 - 05:11 AM (#3440300)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle

Perhaps it was like Murder on the Orient Express, they all did it!


22 Nov 12 - 06:10 AM (#3440319)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Charmion

22 November is also the birthday of Charles de Gaule. Perspective, people; the rest of the world also has history.


22 Nov 12 - 06:21 AM (#3440321)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Dead Horse

So long as he is still dead, why worry?


22 Nov 12 - 06:30 AM (#3440325)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Will it ever happen again? It was an earthshaking event.
=(:-( o)


22 Nov 12 - 06:44 AM (#3440328)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: catspaw49

Do you ever look for existing threads?

......Obviously not......


Spaw


22 Nov 12 - 06:48 AM (#3440331)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

How often does it fall on Thanksgiving?
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 07:01 AM (#3440339)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle

You're right Henry....the turkey did it!


22 Nov 12 - 07:06 AM (#3440344)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: kendall

I was hanging storm windows with my Father in law. Shock and anger that any son of a bitch thought he had the right to kill our president.
Charmion, many things happened on that day, some less important.


22 Nov 12 - 07:11 AM (#3440347)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

I was just a little kid. I didn't understand it much. Mom said Oswald was crazy.
No cartoons on TV for 3 weeks. All day every day news coverage. Funeral.
=(:-( 0)


22 Nov 12 - 07:14 AM (#3440349)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Hinckley nearly pulled it off again.
=(:-( o)


22 Nov 12 - 08:02 AM (#3440373)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Caroline must feel very sad today.
=(:-( I)


22 Nov 12 - 08:41 AM (#3440392)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

"How often does it [Nov 22] fall on Thanksgiving?"

A better phrasing of the question would be "How often does Thanksgiving fall on November 22?" because November 22 is 'fixed' and Thanksgiving is not.

2012, 2018, 2029, 2035, 2040, 2046, 2057, 2063, 2068, 2074, 2085, 2091, 2096

When we look at those numbers we can easily see a pattern that will hold true until we once again re-adjust the calendar by having a double leap year--that is a leap year where there are TWO extra days added, but since that occurs only once every 10,000 years or so it need not affect this calculation.

The pattern is easily discernible by noting the years between the above dates. The pattern is such: 6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5 and so on. A very simple calculation when compared to "Who put the bomp in the bomp shu bomp shu bomp?"


22 Nov 12 - 08:46 AM (#3440397)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Charmion

Thanks, Brucie9. I have always wished for an appropriate assessment of the challenge presented in the bomp-shu-bomp question.


22 Nov 12 - 08:52 AM (#3440401)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: catspaw49

That would have been Fred Bandersnatch. He had an excess of bomps leftover from a celebration the previous week in honor of the Great Fartiste, Joseph Pujol, aka "Le Petomane."


Spaw


22 Nov 12 - 09:35 AM (#3440417)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

I thank you both.

Fred Bandersnatch, a name I will commit to memory. It answers a question that has plagued me for many decades.


22 Nov 12 - 09:41 AM (#3440424)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Jeri

AKA "Da Frub". At least, that's what they called him in the chess club.


22 Nov 12 - 10:22 AM (#3440451)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Charley Noble

Blackbeard also died this day.

Hi, Henry!

Charley Noble


22 Nov 12 - 10:30 AM (#3440459)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Hi.
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 10:33 AM (#3440460)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Steve Shaw

I was a 12-year-old lad and I was in front of the telly at home in Radcliffe, Manchester. Scene At 6.30 was on. A few minutes into the programme, Mike Scott, the estimable presenter, interrupted his item to tell us in a halting, incredulous voice that news has just come in that President Kennedy had been shot. That was at about 6.35pm UK time. Granada TV was the first to break the news in the UK, I discovered later.

http://www.transdiffusion.org/tv/tvheroes/mike_scott


22 Nov 12 - 10:37 AM (#3440463)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Bill D

I was...chillingly.. in an American History class in college.

I also had a paper route and had to deliver that news headline to over a hundred people.


22 Nov 12 - 10:48 AM (#3440472)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Stringsinger

The best account of the assassination of Kennedy is Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann's book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" (which should be made into a movie soon).

He was killed by the mafia, Roselli tried and failed in Chicago, Trafficante, in Miami,
and in Dallas, was done finally by Marcello in Dallas, who was Ruby's boss.
Harvey was set up as a patsy.

Marcello did it


22 Nov 12 - 11:09 AM (#3440479)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

I figured it was them.
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 12:23 PM (#3440515)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle

But what I can't figure out, Perry.....


22 Nov 12 - 01:02 PM (#3440534)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Jack Campin

Happy 99th birthday Benjamin Britten.


22 Nov 12 - 01:22 PM (#3440547)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Gervase

I was sitting under the kitchen table while my mother made marmalade, and I couldn't work out why she was crying so much (even though I was nearly five).
Both my parents idolised JFK, and my mother was often told she looked like Jackie, which pleased her no end. Thankfully neither of them lived long enough to have their naive idealism dashed by what's now known about JFK. That said, history could have given us many far worse presidents.


22 Nov 12 - 01:26 PM (#3440549)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: catspaw49

.....and indeed it did. Hayes, Harding, Millard Fillmore, etc......


Spaw


22 Nov 12 - 02:13 PM (#3440568)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: kendall

Franklin Pierce useless as a screen door in a submarine.

William McKinley, in the pockets of the Robber barons.


22 Nov 12 - 02:22 PM (#3440575)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

I have posted where I was in two previous threads on Kennedy's assassination/murder. I mean no disrespect to JFK or my American friends.


22 Nov 12 - 02:24 PM (#3440578)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: John MacKenzie

Today is the anniversary of the death of C S Lewis. known (ironically) to his family, as Jack.


22 Nov 12 - 02:37 PM (#3440584)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Charmion

22 November 1963 was my Dad's 44th birthday. I was nine, in Grade 5 at Manotick Public School. The death of President Kennedy was the lead item on the CBC news that evening, in odd contrast with the orange-flavoured birthday cake provided -- as always -- by Granny.

The first time I ever saw a television in school was for the funeral procession, of which I remember only the black horse and the backwards boots.


22 Nov 12 - 02:47 PM (#3440587)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: John MacKenzie

Yup, that's a very emotive image Charmian.


22 Nov 12 - 02:47 PM (#3440588)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: pdq

The Mob took out Kennedy because of the abuse they were subjected to by Bobby Kennedy, not JFK.

I believe it was Marcella who was deported.

Numerous Mobsters were verbally abused by Bobby at Senate hearings.

They had to suck it up while the proceedings went on, but they were going to get even.

Does anyone else think that the Dallas police pulled away from Oswald so they were out of harm's way when Ruby pulled the gun?


22 Nov 12 - 03:11 PM (#3440594)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Yes. They did.
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 03:53 PM (#3440619)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

"Does anyone else think that the Dallas police pulled away from Oswald so they were out of harm's way when Ruby pulled the gun?"

I watched the news (at the time) with that footage and other than pictures hanging from the walls of that underground area with choreography instructions, I don't know how anyone could NOT have seen that, pdq.


22 Nov 12 - 04:26 PM (#3440638)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: pdq

"...underground area with choreography instructions..."

You don't suppose that the ballet lessons were given by Lyndon Johnson, do you?


22 Nov 12 - 04:38 PM (#3440644)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: John MacKenzie

Nah, Ron's boy took classes


22 Nov 12 - 05:29 PM (#3440682)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Stringsinger

Carlos Marcello was not deported. He was sent to prison and died shortly afterward.

Yes, JFK was killed because of RFK. This was Marcello's idea, "cut off the head of the snake".

Ruby shot the patsy, pure and simple.


22 Nov 12 - 05:36 PM (#3440686)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: John on the Sunset Coast

For the loss to the world, Huxley's and Lewis' deaths meant much more, for they had accomplished much. To America (and to the world) Kennedy's was the death of promise unfulfilled, and that is the saddest death.


22 Nov 12 - 05:50 PM (#3440703)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Greg F.

"Who put the bomp in the bomp shu bomp shu bomp?"

Who gives a shit, Bruce?

Much more importantly, who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?

Espescially since Ding Dongs may soon be extinct.


22 Nov 12 - 05:52 PM (#3440707)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: pdq

Yes, Carlos Marcello was deported by Bobby Kennedy.

It was a rude "grab 'n' go" type deportation that infuriated Marcello.

I think he was born in Tunisia of Sicilian parents, but he held a Guatamalan passport.

Bobby sent him to Guatamala.

                                                   lots of info here


22 Nov 12 - 06:18 PM (#3440719)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

"Much more importantly, who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?"

Greg, this is the one time you have ever disappointed me. Bed Frandersnatch put the 'ram in the rama lama ding dong'. Spaw said so earlier in the thread. Sheesh, how many authors can a brilliant piece of writing have?


22 Nov 12 - 06:26 PM (#3440725)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Greg F.

Awright then, wise guy: Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip??

Bet I gotcha there!!!


22 Nov 12 - 06:30 PM (#3440727)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

You. You are the dipshit around here.
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 12 - 06:32 PM (#3440729)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

Only for a moment. Bred Fandersnatch. I have that on good authority.


22 Nov 12 - 06:38 PM (#3440732)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: gnu

My but you are a wee testicle tonight.


22 Nov 12 - 06:59 PM (#3440741)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

Henry, if you'd ever given Greg a chance to express his views, you'd see the man behind the posts. He is a well-read, lucid, intelligent man who has a great love of American literature and American history. He and I have been good friends for more years than I remember.

He was encouraging to me at the lowest ebb of my life. I trust him without reservation. As a btw, a zinger to my old friend was interrupted by your post. That was just not a good thing to do. Capiche? I had the best set-up line in the history of Mudcat and now it's fucked.


22 Nov 12 - 07:48 PM (#3440759)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Dear me!
=(:-( °)


22 Nov 12 - 08:11 PM (#3440763)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

Yeah, dear you.


22 Nov 12 - 09:54 PM (#3440799)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: olddude

Fifth grade, the nun came in and told us, we were all horrified. Never forget that day ...


22 Nov 12 - 10:31 PM (#3440808)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Bobert

You a youngish old-dude, Olster...

Me??? 11th grade... Mr. Cormeirs US Gov't 5th period class...

B~


22 Nov 12 - 11:15 PM (#3440819)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: ChanteyLass

I was a high school sophomore in French 2 when a senior came into the classroom and whispered something to the teacher. Seniors in study hall had been pulled out to deliver the message to the teachers. Our French teacher was an eccentric woman. Normally I enjoy eccentric people, but this one was rude to students who struggled to learn French. Luckily, I was at least adequate in the subject so did not incur her wrath, but I disliked how she treated others. After the senior whispered to her, the teacher pulled a face and said, loud enough for all of us to hear, "In the head?" The senior nodded. Later the principal came on the intercom and told us what had happened and that we should all go to our lockers, get our things, and go home. A few students had cars. Some others took the city's public buses. Most of us walked. I remember feeling like I was in a fog for the entire walk home.

As a teacher, I was on the other side of the desk when the Challenger shuttle exploded and when the World Trade Center was destroyed.


22 Nov 12 - 11:44 PM (#3440830)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,999

"As a teacher, I was on the other side of the desk when the Challenger shuttle exploded and when the World Trade Center was destroyed."

Ditto, CL.


23 Nov 12 - 12:20 AM (#3440837)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: ragdall

I was in first year at college (in Canada) when the news came. They played the radio news over the P.A. system. Classes were cancelled for the remainder of the day. We all went home.

Being sent home seems to be a common response to the event. I wonder why? Was there some directive that those in charge were following? Was there a fear that something worse was about to happen?

rags


23 Nov 12 - 01:04 AM (#3440841)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST

You know what! I don't give a fuck what you folks surmise and this and that about what happened. A good man went down and I look to my right just above my shoulder and see the man on my plate that has meant everything to me since it happened.


23 Nov 12 - 06:56 AM (#3440907)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: kendall

Define Good.


23 Nov 12 - 07:14 AM (#3440915)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

That whole family. Creepy.
=(:-( o)


23 Nov 12 - 10:23 AM (#3440976)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Another guest

'I look to my right just above my shoulder and see the man on my plate that has meant everything to me since it happened.'

I had a plate like that once.


24 Nov 12 - 08:01 AM (#3441404)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Stringsinger

Carlos Marcello was not deported. There was a reporter that spent time with him while he was in jail and admitted to the assassination.


24 Nov 12 - 08:15 AM (#3441407)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

It seems like a mob hit. They had to show how much power they had.
=(:-( ))


24 Nov 12 - 09:00 AM (#3441432)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Ed T

There are many folks who were not alive when this happened. I suspect in twenty years or so, the anniversary will be seen much like the assassination of other historic figures in the world. No one will be there to post their personal memories of when they heard it in the media.


24 Nov 12 - 09:03 AM (#3441433)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: number 6

"The pattern is such: 6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5,6,11,6,5 and so on."

Hmmmm

don't blame me for putting the 'bomp' in the bomp shu bomp.

biLL


24 Nov 12 - 09:06 AM (#3441436)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: number 6

... I wasn't even near the Brill Building that day.

biLL


24 Nov 12 - 10:32 AM (#3441490)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: LadyJean

The private school we went to let out early on Fridays. The carpool mom of the day, pulled up and said to her daughter "Guess what?" The daughter said, "What?" her mother said, "The president's been shot!'

I thought it was some kind of family in joke.

I was mistaken. I was 8, when this was going on. My sister turned 7 on the day of his funeral.


24 Nov 12 - 10:41 AM (#3441492)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

I wonder if the mob killed Bobby too.        Was Sirhan another patsy?
=(:-( o)


24 Nov 12 - 10:37 PM (#3441798)
Subject: RE: BS: Today: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Yea. I bet they killed Bobby too.
=(:-( o)


24 Nov 12 - 11:19 PM (#3441804)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Joe Offer

This page says J.Edgar Hoover send Bobby and Jack Kennedy a constant stream of derogatory information about Martin Luther King, Jr., in an attempt to turn the Kennedys against King. We've all heard the stories about King and his marital infidelity and other issues - is it possible that these are all lies from J.Edgar Hoover?

-Joe-


25 Nov 12 - 02:04 AM (#3441825)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

Maybe J. Edgar killed Bobby?
=(:-( o)


25 Nov 12 - 06:46 AM (#3441874)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: kendall

There is plenty of evidence that J.E. Hoover was a cross dressing, paranoid coward, and a glory seeker.Any agent that stood out got dumped.


25 Nov 12 - 09:55 AM (#3441946)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: GUEST,Patsy

Ironically the rock and pop scene was getting underway with a new freedom of thought and expression so it surprises me that as he was a bit of an icon more wasn't done to protect him. Standing and waving in an open top car wasn't the brightest thing to let him do. Perhaps the whole thing was set up from someone inside, which might explain how Oswald could be the lone killer if he indeed was the one.


25 Nov 12 - 09:59 AM (#3441951)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: Henry Krinkle

I don't think Oswald was the killer. It was a pro job.
=(:-( ))


22 Nov 14 - 10:29 AM (#3679194)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: pdq

He may not have really been a "pro", but he did a lot of work for Lyndon Johnson:


Malcolm "Mac" Wallace


22 Nov 14 - 09:49 PM (#3679294)
Subject: RE: BS: Nov 22: Anniversary of Kennedy Killing
From: LadyJean

I was going to a private girl's school with an alma mater that began, "In thy pillared portals" So the main entrance had to have pillars. I was outside those pillars. It was a Friday afternoon, and school let out early. Tghe carpool mother for the day pulled up. I don't remember who she was, but I'll always remember that she got out of the car and asked her daughter, "Guess what?" The daughter answered "What?" The mother said, "The president's been shot". I thought she was joking.   All the way home we told each other that he was young and strong and he'd get better.
Mother told us what last rites were.
My sister's birthday is November 25. She often got it off from school, because of Thanksgiving. But never before or since on a Monday. Grandma and Grandaddy came early that day, so we could watch the funeral together. Odd to think, Grandma could remember McKinley's funeral, and Harding's, and Roosevelt's. (Note: McKinley was killed by an anarchist named Leon Cszogloz. Harding and Roosevelt died of natural causes.) Cszogloz, whose name I probably misspelled, acted alone, as did Charles Guiteau who shot James Garfield. I expect Oswald worked alone.