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31 Oct 99 - 11:46 AM (#130048) Subject: Battle of N.O. From: Frank Hamilton Hi, I'm looking for a verse to Jimmie Driftwood's Battle of New Orleans that mentions Colonel Packenham, head of the British battalion. The Johnny Horton version doesn't mention him and I can't remember what Pete and I sang on the Nonesuch Album. Would be appreciated. Thanks. Frank Hamilton |
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31 Oct 99 - 12:28 PM (#130057) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: wildlone Frank I found the song at OLGA. The florida site is still on line.I will go and get it and see if I can cut and paste to here. |
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31 Oct 99 - 12:30 PM (#130059) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Dale Rose Battle of New Orleans (including Col. Packenham) right here in the DT. |
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31 Oct 99 - 12:31 PM (#130061) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: LLewellyn It's a long time ago but, as far as I remember:
Now Packenham said we could take em by surprise |
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31 Oct 99 - 12:34 PM (#130064) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Dale Rose Should have mentioned that I was fortunate to hear Jimmie Driftwood do this in person a good many times. In the last years of his life, he had to have the words there in front of him, but he sure delighted in entertaining people with it! |
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31 Oct 99 - 12:36 PM (#130065) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Rick Fielding "The French said Andrew you better run 'Cause Packinham's a comin' with a bullet in his gun Ol Hickory said well I don't give a damn An he swore he'd whip the britches offa Colenel Packinham. Learned from the singing of Frank Hamilton and Pete Seeger on the Folkways album "Nonesuch"! Hi Frank, if this ain't bringing the coals to Newcastle I don't know what is. I'm happy to help. 25 years ago I backed up Oscar Brand on a few radio shows. He asked me if I knew the chords for "bergundian Carol". I said "Sure, I learned 'em from your record". Well, YOU play the damned thing, and I'll sing it, he said, I never could remember them! P.S. Now that I start thinking about it, it might have been "Coventry Carol". Guess my memory is shot as well! Rick |
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31 Oct 99 - 11:24 PM (#130253) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Pete Peterson You forgot the next to last verse which is
The guide who brung the British from the sea Again-- learned from Frank Hamilton & Pete Seeger's Nonesuch! For what it's worth the family spelled the name without the "c" -- and Col. Pakenham's sister Kitty married Sir Arther Wellesly, better known as the Duke of Wellington. Wellington never suspected his brother in law was such an idiot or he never would have sent him out. . . |
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01 Nov 99 - 10:16 AM (#130403) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Rick Fielding Thanks Pete. Forgot that verse. But I think it was "ya better quit your foolin with you "cousin" Uncle Sam". I know! Let's ask Frank Hamilton! Rick |
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01 Nov 99 - 10:40 AM (#130412) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Roger the skiffler The Lonnie Donegan version which we Brits learned in 1956-ish implied Pakenham was on the other side:
"In 1814 we took a little trip,
Although the error was quickly pointed out by historians, I don't think his version ever changed. |
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01 Nov 99 - 11:40 AM (#130436) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Frank Hamilton Thank you everyone so much! Wound up using the DT version which seems to be pretty close to what I remember Pete and I doing. I found an antecedent. The Hunters of Kentucky are also about the war of 1812, Old Hickory and Packenham. Wonder if Jimmie Driftwood knew this song? Anyway, I think Jimmie's song is brilliant! And I thank all of you so much for your input. Rick, not sure I remember about the "cousin" verse. I kept wanting to sing "when you're crossing Uncle Sam" but I think this may not be as good as "cousin". I think the verse about the alligator is positivly wonderful. "The gator lost his mind...." Anyone know about Jimmie Driftwood other than he was a high school teacher in Snowball Arkansas who tried to make history interesting for his students by writing these wonderful songs? Thanks again, Frank Hamilton |
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01 Nov 99 - 04:56 PM (#130576) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Rick Fielding Hi Frank. Listened to the record again and I guess you are singing "crossin" although the album is so damned scratched by now, who can tell? I've read a number of fairly recent articles on Jimmie Driftwood. (Not so recent as to know whether He's still with us) What a guy! Seems he's devoted his entire life to teaching young people about the mountain lore. Sounds like he took his brief time in the limelight in stride and then went back to being an entertaining educator. Who found it? You or Pete. Did Johnnie Horton hear your recording? Rick |
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01 Nov 99 - 08:37 PM (#130678) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Gene * 1/previous forum thread on J. Driftwood * |
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02 Nov 99 - 12:12 AM (#130750) Subject: RE: Battle of N.O. From: Dale Rose Jimmy died on 12Jul98, age 91. His wife Cleda is not well, though I have not heard anything lately. (I can make a more accurate statement tomorrow if I think to ask at the Folk Center) There is another mention in this thread about the Tennessee Stud. Sorry, but the obituary and other articles from the News Democrat link mentioned in one of the threads posted by Gene are long gone, and I neglected to save the text anywhere. The actual print articles I gave to friends who knew him. The Log Cabin Democrat, Conway, Arkansas has a good article which is still on line. |