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29 Apr 13 - 01:08 AM (#3510117) Subject: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 In the liner notes to the Buena Vista Social Club album which I found on the Internet (will post the link here when I can find it), the description for the Compay Segundo(Francisco Repilado) song Chan Chan says he took inspiration for the song from a folk tale/song told in rural Santiago de Cuba. I've been searching around for any references to the folk tale, but found nothing except more references to the album and statements like "Chan Chan and Juanica were folk characters." The PBS Buena Vista Social Club site says "The two central characters 'Juanica' and 'Chan Chan' are legends of Cuban folklore." Does anyone know anything about this? |
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29 Apr 13 - 01:15 AM (#3510119) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Chan Chan (Francisco Repilado) From: MorwenEdhelwen1 De Alto Cedro voy para Marcane Llego a Cueto voy para Mayari El cariño que te tengo Yo no lo puedo negar Se me sale la babita Yo no lo puedo evitar Cuando Juanica y Chan Chan En el mar cernian arena Como sacudia el 'jibe' A Chan Chan le daba pena Limpia el camino de pajas Que yo me quiero sentar En aquel tronco que veo Y asi no puedo llegar De Alto Cedro voy para Marcane Llego a Cueto voy para Mayari De Alto Cedro voy para Marcane Llego a Cueto voy para Mayari De Alto Cedro voy para Marcane Llego a Cueto voy para Mayari From here . |
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29 Apr 13 - 02:27 PM (#3510265) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: Q (Frank Staplin) Rough translation: Chan Chan The passion I feel for you I can no longer deny. It makes me tend to shake all over, It's not something I can hide. When Juanica and Chan Chan Wiggled sand along the water, Her bottom jiggled And Chan Chan was thoruoghly aroused. Clear away the shit from my path, All I want is to sit down On that tree trunk I see And I will not go away. Based on posts by "amphibian" and "pxdtone" on the internet. Limpia el camino de pajas is a Cuban expression that means take all the trash, "shit," away. The subject is so general that it would be difficult to attach any specifics to it, but there may be a tale or poem on the subject in the Oriente. |
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29 Apr 13 - 02:46 PM (#3510272) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: Q (Frank Staplin) thoroughly! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rRJP8rVg-4 |
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29 Apr 13 - 06:27 PM (#3510309) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 So, the question is, what's the story or song Compay heard? I asked a friend about this, and she didn't know anything. |
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30 Apr 13 - 05:50 PM (#3510543) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Refresh |
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04 May 13 - 11:30 PM (#3511714) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 refresh |
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09 May 13 - 05:21 AM (#3513279) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Refresh |
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01 Jun 13 - 09:16 PM (#3521728) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Can anyone help with this? Refresh. |
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31 Aug 13 - 10:55 PM (#3554905) Subject: RE: Folklore: Chan Chan and Juanica From: GUEST http://www.radiorebelde.cu/de-cuba-y-de-los-cubanos/alto-cedro-cueto-marcane-chan-chan-20110921/ |
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25 Jul 16 - 03:31 AM (#3801919) Subject: RE: Chan Chan and Juanica From: GUEST Bump |
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25 Jul 16 - 06:37 PM (#3802016) Subject: RE: Chan Chan and Juanica From: keberoxu "Una canción campesina." With these words, the artist and songwriter known as Compay Segundo describes the source from which he drew the inspiration for "Chan Chan." Which I understand to mean, not a tale or story, but a "traditional song from the countryside." Then there are these words: "dos personajes de mil ochociento." My translation is, Two characters from the years of the 1800's. So if you put those two together, what you have for Compay Segundo's source material is: a traditional song lyric, with a setting from an earlier century, from the 19th century sometime. That does not limit the song to the 19th century, it seems to me; the song could be a more recent traditional song, with a nostalgic recollection of an earlier era. It may also be noted that the municipality of Santiago de Cuba, on the eastern part of the island, was the capitol city in the 1500's before the government of the island was relocated to Habana. So this is a region whose traditions go back well into the earliest colonial centuries. |
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25 Jul 16 - 07:44 PM (#3802025) Subject: RE: Chan Chan and Juanica From: keberoxu There exists a Spanish-language biography of Compay Segundo; perhaps there is detail to be found there. |