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BS: Proff that I exist....

18 May 13 - 09:34 PM (#3516596)
Subject: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Well, I have always struggled with the "prove you exist" thing and while counting the steps tonight between my office and the beer box I found that the number of steps has not changed as long as I have perhaps existed in this house so...

...I was thinking, "Hey, if I didn't exist then why wouldn't the number of steps change from day to imagined day?"...

So, I believe that I have reasonably proved that I exist...

Bill D???

B;~)


18 May 13 - 09:41 PM (#3516598)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

Ummm... that line of thought more likely proves you have had several trips TO the beer box.

If you didn't exist, then the imagined day wouldn't either.


18 May 13 - 09:44 PM (#3516599)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

Descartes' drinking corollary: "I think I think, therefore I think I am...I think."


18 May 13 - 09:49 PM (#3516600)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Tiger

Is there a section below BS?


18 May 13 - 09:58 PM (#3516602)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnu

Yup... TS.


18 May 13 - 10:17 PM (#3516605)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Now listen, ya'll...

I mean, Bill came up with some compelling arguments that I might not exist so...

...here's what the Wes Ginny Slide Rule told me to do... It said, "Walk down the steps again and count them and give me a total of steps"...

So I did that an reported the number of step up and down and then the WGSR took that number and did its wizardry and told me how many step there was going down!!!

Yes, I was amazed and still am...

That proves that I exists...

Read 'um and weep, ya'll...

B~


18 May 13 - 10:27 PM (#3516608)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

Ya' need to find a slooooowww escalator somewhere and really test that theory...several times. Take some beer. Report back.


18 May 13 - 10:33 PM (#3516610)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Here's my advice, Bill...

If all yer doing is ridin' the escalators then do what I do... Take a cooler...

Some of those Metro escalators are real long... Like half a beer long...

More proff that I exist, ya'll...

B~


18 May 13 - 10:57 PM (#3516614)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ebbie

There, there, Bobertly, I believe you exist, in fact, I am fairly certain of it. Now, to prove it...?


18 May 13 - 11:32 PM (#3516617)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: JohnInKansas

All that is proved by the consistent number of steps is that whoever imagines you to exist has little imagination.

John


18 May 13 - 11:43 PM (#3516619)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Don Firth

Descarte and a friend were having a few drinks in a public house. Noticing that Descartes had finished his drink, the friend asked, "Rene, would you care for another?"

Descartes responded, "I think not."

And vanished!

=======

The Dalai Lama walked up to the counter in a hamburger joint and told the lad in the paper hat, "Make me one with everything."

When the lad delivered the hamburger to him, he handed him a large bill. The lad put it in the till and closed the drawer.

"Uh--where's my change?" asked the Dalai Lama.

The lad responded, "Change comes from within."

Don Firth


19 May 13 - 12:07 AM (#3516621)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ebbie

I think not, and therefore I ain't.


19 May 13 - 12:09 AM (#3516622)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Rapparee

"...imagined day..."

I think the punctuation is off on the first consonant beginning a word. It should be "imagined Day" and poof! Bill D. vanishes.


19 May 13 - 12:15 AM (#3516623)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Rapparee

Bibio, ergo sum.

I drink therefore I am.

Proof: Bobert has a beer and the beer stays inside him for a period.
If he did not exist it would all slosh out on the ground/floor as it was poured out. It does not do this, so something called "Bobert" encloses it. The container could be as easily called "Dipshit" or "Sadie" or "Model XM-71a" but in this case it is self-named "Bobert." As long as the poured beer remains beer and does not slosh around on the floor Bobert exists.


19 May 13 - 12:17 AM (#3516624)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: JennieG

Ah, but Bobert......think on this.....while the number of steps from your office to the beer box are unchanged, can the same be said for the return journey i.e. from the beer box back to your office?


19 May 13 - 03:25 AM (#3516635)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Megan L

Its no the length or number of stairs that bother him on the way back its the width.


19 May 13 - 06:02 AM (#3516668)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Will Fly

Bobster - there are just Three Steps to Heaven - now why would you want to go the beer box?


19 May 13 - 08:21 AM (#3516689)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Dave Hanson

Proff that I exist and proff that I can't spell.

And from Monty Python,

Rene Descarte was a drunken fart,
I drink therefore I am.

and maybe I can't spell either.

Dave H


19 May 13 - 08:36 AM (#3516697)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Yup, Rap...

Skeleton walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a beer and a mop...

Nevermind...

B;~)


19 May 13 - 09:41 AM (#3516721)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Musket sans yard brush and hose pipe

My greyhound fell in the pond earlier. He must therefore exist.

I stink therefore I am. (He insists on eating blanket weed and parrot weed. Mind you, he then licks his arse to get rid of the taste.)


19 May 13 - 10:56 AM (#3516745)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Eliza

As I get older and older, I sadly get shorter. Something to do with the bones of the spine. I shrink, therefore I am.


19 May 13 - 11:52 AM (#3516760)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Bobert, fall down the stairs, break your neck, and see if anybody comes to pick up the body.
If an obit is printed, there is some evidence that you did.


19 May 13 - 12:02 PM (#3516769)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Amos

You can't prove Bobert exists by proving that his corporeal body exists. How do you know someone else isn't actually driving it instead of Bobert himself? But I suspect that the fact that Bobert began this thread does prove he exists, because iof he didn't the thread would not be here, and you would not be reading it. In which case the thought that he is proven to exist would not enter your mind, and therefore he might not...

Life is really tough when you buy bullshit in the large economy size.


19 May 13 - 12:28 PM (#3516783)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Buy bullshit? It is free at mudcat.


19 May 13 - 01:37 PM (#3516801)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnu

Hahahaaa! Great thread.


19 May 13 - 01:52 PM (#3516803)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

Bobertz, why the hell would you even care if BillD or anyone else thinks that you don't exist? What difference does it make what they think about it? It's irrelevant.

What I suggest, though, if it's really botherin' you, is you go visit BillD. Knock on his front door. When he opens it, grab his nose HARD between 2 knuckles, pull his head down sharply, and shove a cream pie in his face, then spin him around and give him a good hard kick in the ass and say, "There, I exist! That's right...it's ME, Bobertz. In yer face, buddy! Ya satisfied now?"

That oughta put any remainin' doubts in his mind to rest. I once did this to a guy in Boston who had claimed he doubted my existence, and he's been tryin' to do me violence ever since...that proves I have convinced him of my existence, don't it?

- Chongo


19 May 13 - 02:50 PM (#3516822)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

I never trust people who knock on my FRONT door. Everyone who knows me comes to the downstairs door.

(I am convinced Bobert exists... I went to his old place in Wes Ginny twice, and the things I saw could not have been created by anyone or anything except a gen-you-wine Bobertism entity.)


19 May 13 - 04:06 PM (#3516847)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,leeneia

I think Rap's proof is one of the best. As the person most involved in cleaning floors at my own house, I can see the compelling argument that if Bobert did not exist, the beer he drinks would mess up the floor.

But on a higher philosophic level we know Bobert exists because he mistyped 'proof' as 'proff.'   If Bobert were some kind of hologram generated by evil AI, with language supplied by downloaded lexicons, he couldn't misspell anything even if he wanted to.

"I err, therefore I'm human."


19 May 13 - 04:52 PM (#3516859)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ebbie

"...grab his nose HARD between 2 knuckles, pull his head down sharply, and shove a cream pie in his face, then spin him around and give him a good hard kick in the ass and say, "There, I exist! That's right...it's ME, Bobertz. In yer face, buddy!"

As a visual, Chongo, this lacks something.


19 May 13 - 05:19 PM (#3516867)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: McGrath of Harlow

I sometimes think you may all be a construct of an overwrought computer...


19 May 13 - 06:05 PM (#3516882)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

I was speakin' metaphorically about the "in yer face" part....meanin' a direct confrontation, see?

- Chongo


19 May 13 - 07:27 PM (#3516898)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

"I never met a phor I didn't like"

          -Chongo Rogers


19 May 13 - 07:50 PM (#3516902)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

With all this Bobert exists, no he don't stuff I'd like to just throw in the following: There are days when I wished I didn't exist... That's further proff that I might exist...

That's my story...

B;~)


19 May 13 - 07:58 PM (#3516907)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,leeneia

Bobert, that is so, so true.

I'm sorry to hear that there are days when you wish you didn't exist. When that happens, get out the gitar...


19 May 13 - 10:45 PM (#3516948)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Hey Bobert...What would be easier to prove(or 'Proff', as you prefer), that you exist....or Obama is an honest cat???

GfS


20 May 13 - 12:13 AM (#3516960)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Amos

A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what is a "meta" for?

AJ


20 May 13 - 01:11 AM (#3516967)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Amos: "".........or what is a "meta" for?".........loosening up!

GfS


20 May 13 - 05:49 AM (#3517026)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnu

"mistyped 'proof' as 'proff.'"

Proff is the pluratitude of proof and prof in Bobertt world.

I am human, therefore I be.

My question is, does a rat's ass exist? I don't mean any particular rat's ass or all rats' asses. Of course, in the innuendo, I don't give.....


21 May 13 - 02:25 AM (#3517451)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ebbie

I resurrect thee.


21 May 13 - 02:56 AM (#3517455)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

...and for you, Sweetheart, I arose to the occasion......this thread or another??

GfS


21 May 13 - 08:26 AM (#3517541)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

I'm pretty sure the rat's ass exists but not too sure about the rat's ass hole... I mean, well... Never mind...

B~


21 May 13 - 12:55 PM (#3517656)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Bobert's erotica!

GfS


21 May 13 - 01:27 PM (#3517671)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Get caught by the IRS and jailed.


21 May 13 - 05:13 PM (#3517748)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Yeah, that certainly might add to the list of evidence that I exist...

Nothin' like jail to change one's perspective...

B~


21 May 13 - 06:10 PM (#3517760)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnu

Well, if the IRS jails ya, ya cease to exist iffn ya ever did.


22 May 13 - 06:07 AM (#3517901)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnomad

I wonder whether one of these might help? Certificate of Living Existence (PDF) the Italians thought this one up in order (among other things) to prevent pensions being paid to those who are dead.


26 May 13 - 10:41 PM (#3519529)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: frogprince

So if you die do you have to turn in your "certificate of living existence" to the government?


26 May 13 - 11:07 PM (#3519533)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Rapparee

Then you get a "Certificate of Non-Living Existence." No good for pensions in Italy but fine for voting in Chicago.


27 May 13 - 12:20 AM (#3519541)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

I got an idea, Bobertz, to put yer mind at rest. Ya know that hammer that ya lost, then found again? Take that hammer in yer right hand and whack one of yer big toes real hard with it. If it hurts like hell...you exist! If it don't...then maybe not.

- Chongo


27 May 13 - 08:20 AM (#3519617)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnomad

I just giggle over it being a self-certify form.

I wonder whether one such might have helped Dr Frankenstein's creation?

"I am aliiive, I have signed a form that saaaays so."


27 May 13 - 11:15 AM (#3519654)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

Somethin' like that coulda helped Reagan stick around for another 10 or 20 years.

- Chongo


27 May 13 - 11:50 AM (#3519670)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ed T

I'm not sure, from what era have you been transported?


27 May 13 - 11:55 AM (#3519673)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Ed T

""Is he in there?
Nope, lucky for him, otherwise I would have slapped his corpse""
Wreck-It Ralph quote


"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
- WANDA (Jamie Lee Curtis) in A Fish Called Wanda (1988)


27 May 13 - 01:36 PM (#3519709)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Well, Chongz... I thought that was a purdy good idea so I slipped on my garden shoes this morning to go fetch the hammer... Unbeknownst to me the Japanese hornet that I thought I had killed last night had climbed into the right shoe...

Just got back from the ER where they had to inject a bunch of steroids and other stuff in me 'cause I had welts popping up all over my body the size of ping pong balls and my throat was closing up... I'm kinda better now and have lots of meds to take for the next week...

Bottom line??? Think I'll pass on the hammer... This hornet sting is like fire and my foot is all swelled up... You know, kinda like yer head... Anyway, I'm feeling real existin' today...

B;~(


27 May 13 - 01:53 PM (#3519715)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

OUCH! Geez, Bobertz, you are one unlucky son of a gun. But at least you know for sure now that you exist. Didja finish that hornet off this time?

- Chongo


27 May 13 - 02:00 PM (#3519719)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

Japanese hornet? We have import bugs to torment us now? Maybe the Department of Defense oughta know about this....


27 May 13 - 03:17 PM (#3519746)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Yeah, Chongz... I beat on him with the shoe he's spent the night in until there were two pieces of him, both still alive... Then I sprayed both halves with hornet killer and then when I was sure they were both dead I scooped them up onto a piece of cardboard and then introduced them to my septic tank by way of the toilet... He's dead...

What, Bill??? You don't have or know about these critters... I'm sure you have them in Maryland 'cause we had 'um back in Wes Ginny... I got hit one time by one obn the back of my right arm during a zesty session with the mother of my son... Took the zest outta it real quick... Sumabich bled all the way down my arm but I didn't have no reaction like the one today... Guess I am now allergic???

No matter... I'm gonna find where these guys live and put a whup on 'um with the hornet spray... The worst part about this is that most folks who are allergic to hornet stings are also allergic to wasp stings and we are having to leave the wasps alone to pollinate our plants 'cause we ain't got many honey bees because of Big-Ag... I might have to buy a hive and go back to whuppin' up on wasps...

B;~(


27 May 13 - 03:18 PM (#3519747)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Ebbie

Beaubear, your life is downright interestin', it just might kill you someday. Shake out your shoes next time...


27 May 13 - 04:19 PM (#3519772)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

I've heard that in scorpion country you gotta ALWAYS shake out yer shoes before pullin' 'em on...or else. The little critters feel safe inside a nice dark shoe.

What do these here Japanese hornets look like, Bobertz?

- Chongo


27 May 13 - 05:14 PM (#3519795)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: gnu

Once bitten, twice allergic. Them the J-Hornets look a size! Myabe that's what happens forst time around? Also, I see that they will attack a bee nest an kill em all... might be part a yer prob.


27 May 13 - 06:05 PM (#3519826)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

Well Bobert... maybe the dead one that got me about 10 years ago was like yours. He didn't speak, so I couldn't tell by his accent. I was looking for the leak in my attic air conditioner, and had its lid off, reaching in and feeling around in an inch of water, when *ZAP*... my finger felt like I'd been struck by lightning... pulled it out with this DEAD hornet still attached. I told it it wasn't my fault he'd gone and drowned in my AC.

Throbbed for hours and swelled up all nasty like...

"There was an old man of St. Bees*,
Who was stung on the arm by a wasp.
When asked "Does it hurt?"
He replied, "Yes it does.
But I thought all the while 'twas a hornet."

*St Bees is a village and civil parish in the Copeland district of Cumbria, in the North of England, on the Irish Sea coast about five miles west southwest of Whitehaven.


27 May 13 - 06:14 PM (#3519828)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bill D

I am informed by the Google thing that the silly odd limerick was written by W.S. Gilbert, and actually goes:

"There was an old man of St. Bees,
Who was stung on the arm by a wasp.
When asked "Does it hurt?"
He replied, "No it doesn't.
I'm so glad it wasn't a hornet."


...which may make more sense-- if it makes any sense at all.


27 May 13 - 06:18 PM (#3519830)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: JohnInKansas

Chongo's method for Bobert to prove that he exists by visiting BillD is obviously completely fallacious, since what he describes for Bobert to do is exactly what BillD might expect a Bobert would do, and hence it does nothing to resolve the question of whether Bobert is a figment of his own imagination or a creation of BillD's.

It does not prove that Bobert thinks therefore Bobert is, rather than that BillD thinks Bobert thinks and therefor Bobert is. Of course there's the converse where Bobert thinks that BillD thinks so BillD exists only because Bobert thinks he thinks.

The problem of Chongo is of course more complex since obviously Chongo only thinks he thinks, so he can only think he thinks that either Bobert or BillD thinks, therefor leaving some uncertainty as to whether either of them actually "is." Had Descartes said "I stink therefore I am" perhaps Chongo would be the only one of us here, since there would at leaste be an element inherent certainty in the premise.

John


27 May 13 - 06:23 PM (#3519833)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Joe_F

"I" is short for "the person who wrote this or is talking to you". Thus, "I exist" means "Someone wrote this or is talking to you". Upon reading this, you have therefore only to decide whether the text you are reading is the result of human action or is a fortuitous consequence of solar flares corrupting the Internet. I await your judgment.


27 May 13 - 07:34 PM (#3519847)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Ya'll hurtin' my head now so I guess that proffs I is...

B~


27 May 13 - 07:48 PM (#3519853)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: Bobert

Yo, Eb...

I once worked for a guy who said, "If ya' ain't screwing up, ya' ain't doin' nuthin'"...

I get that...

I am one busy boy...

B;~)


28 May 13 - 11:40 AM (#3520040)
Subject: RE: BS: Proff that I exist....
From: JohnInKansas

For a while some years back, a popular gimme hat in the aircraft shops said:

"If it ain't broke I ain't worked on it yet."

The guys who wore them knew what it meant. Most of the management never figured it out.

John