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12 May 97 - 07:09 PM (#5126) Subject: Norse ballads From: ryhenna@geocities.com I am looking for the lyrics to some Scandinavian folksongs. First is a ballad called "Sinklarsvisa" that I learned years ago but have since forgotten. The song tells of a Scottish chieftan who invades Norway, and the chorus goes something like this (I think): "Vel opp for dag, vi kommer vel over den hede" (forgive my inaccurate Norwegian; it's been a long time!) I would also like to find the lyrics for some of the songs on a CD called "Music of the Scandinavian Valleys" (Lena Willemark and Ale Möller are among the performers), specifically, a medieval Swedish ballad called "Det stod en Jungfru," and a couple more Norwegian songs: "Farvel" and "Iddan Hermond." If anyone has the lyrics to any of these songs, or knows where I might find them, *PLEASE* post or contact me. I will be eternally grateful! Thanks, Kristin (ryhenna@geocities.com) |
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28 May 97 - 03:28 AM (#5845) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Jean If you find a site for Norwegian songs please let me know. |
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28 May 97 - 06:07 AM (#5847) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Jean Dear Kristin, You might try contacting Gracia Grindal ggrindal@luthersem.edu Yours, Jean
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28 May 97 - 06:08 AM (#5848) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Jean Dear Kristin, You might try contacting Gracia Grindal ggrindal@luthersem.edu Yours, Jean
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07 Mar 09 - 06:12 AM (#2583167) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,Mad mic Herr Sinklar drog over salten hav, til Norge hans kurs monne stande; blant Gudbrands klipper han fant sin grav, der vanked så blodig en pande. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede Ved Romsdals kyster han styred i land, erklærete sig for en fjende; hannem fulgte efter fjortenhundrede mand som alle havde vondt i sinde. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede De skændte og brændte, hvor de kom frem, all folkeret monne de krænke, oldingens avmagt rørte ei dem, de spotted den grædende enke. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede Soldaten er ude på Kongens Tog, Vi selv må Landet forsvare; Forbandet være det niddingsdrog Som nu sit Blod vil spare. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede De bønder af Våge, Lesje og Lom med skarpe økser på nakke, i Bredebøjg tilsammen kom med skotten så ville de snakke. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede Tæt under lide der løber en Sti som man monne Kringen kalde, Lågen skynder sig der forbi, i den skal fienden falde. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede Med døde kropper blev Kringen strødd, de ravner fikk nok at æde; det ungdoms blod, som her udflød, de skotske piger begræde. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede End kneiser en Støtte på samme Sted, som Norges Uvenner monne true. Ve hver en Nordmand, som ei bliver hed, så tidt hans Øjne den skue. - Vel opp før dag, de kommer vel over den hede |
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07 Mar 09 - 11:55 AM (#2583313) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: EBarnacle If the songs are old enough, you might start with a collection of Norse eddas, which ought to be available through your area library on interlibrary loan. |
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07 Mar 09 - 12:25 PM (#2583328) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: peregrina Are you looking for the eddas, actually, or rimur and ballads? |
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07 Mar 09 - 01:17 PM (#2583358) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Fidjit OK. Sinclair vise Written by Edvard Storm 1749 - 94 Tune is from the faro islands Song is about battle in 1612 Recorded by the Norwegian folkrock group FOLQUE 1974 Philips 6317 025 Along with others that they got from Steeleye Span and fairport and translated to Norwegian. Including Child Ballad number 10 The Cruel Sister. And Alison Gross Chas |
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07 Mar 09 - 01:21 PM (#2583361) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Fidjit Norwegian small song society It's in Norwegian, but they will lead you to the Norwegian vise(Small Song) Archives Chas |
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07 Mar 09 - 05:35 PM (#2583523) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Steve Gardham LOL, translate an English version of Tvo Seostre into Norwegian!! There are many beautiful Norwegian versions. I have Skolens Sangbok by Mads Berg. But none of the three songs you mention are in it. I wonder if Edvard Storm is related to the famous seagoing Storm family of Robin Hood's Bay. They have their own very interesting website. |
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10 Mar 09 - 07:29 AM (#2585448) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Fidjit |
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10 Mar 09 - 10:48 PM (#2586111) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Howard Kaplan A web site titled balladar is a starting point for the lyrics to roughly 200 Norwegian ballad texts. Not surprisingly, the hyperlink to "Dei to søstre" says there are 103 variants there. You can get some English language documentation about the project here, but many of the hyperlinks either don't work or lead to Norwegian language pages. |
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11 Mar 09 - 02:16 AM (#2586167) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Malcolm Douglas I've mentioned the Dokumentasjons-prosjektet in a number of past discussions here; see, for instance, a 'Two Sisters' thread eight years back: Binnorie - Icelandic version. A useful page to start from there is Ballader I Norge - Ballads in Norway. As Howard says, only some pages are available in English and parts of the site haven't worked for years (the 'ballad jukebox' was broken for a long time and has now disappeared altogether) but there seems to be some sign that piecemeal work is being done and that updates may eventually appear, perhaps with music notation where it survives. We will have to see. Meanwhile, some of Svend Grundtvig's 19th century Danish collections of song texts, folktales and so on can now be seen at the Internet Archive: Svend Grundtvig at the Internet Archive |
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27 Feb 10 - 11:48 AM (#2851580) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST Sinklars vísa: http://www.fotatradk.com/kv/Sinklars%20visa.pdf Translation of Sinklars vísa(not a good translation): http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_survey_of_Danish_literature_part_2 |
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27 Feb 10 - 04:49 PM (#2851796) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Richard Mellish Just to confuse the issue, there is also a Swedish ballad Sinclairsvisan, which tells (originally in 90 stanzas, according to the sleeve notes of a CD on which it is condensed to a more modest 6½ minutes) how the nasty Russians killed the good Swedish Major Malkolm Sinclair when he was on his way back from a diplomatic mission to Turkey. That was in 1739, over a century after the previous Sinclair/Sinklar had come to grief in the service of the Swedish king. Richard |
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27 Feb 10 - 06:51 PM (#2851885) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,Jorg Caprice records has an awesome collection of (mostly) Swedish ballads and local music. Vols 1-2 are Medieval Ballads, and Vols 9-10 are Three Tranditional Folk Singers. Both come with extensive booklets all the lyrics and collection information. Highly recommended. I am away from my house right now so do not have the lyrics at hand, but there are something like 5 different version of the song in question. You can get these CDs from CDRoots: Medieval Ballad http://www.cdroots.com/cda-fmis-1.html Three Singers http://www.cdroots.com/cda-fmis-9.html |
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27 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM (#2851887) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,Jorg Oops! Sinklarvisa is on the Vol 19 of the same series: http://www.cdroots.com/cda-fmis-19.html (I am not affiliated with CDRoots! It is simply the first tsite I think of when these kinds of questions come up! :)) |
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27 Feb 10 - 07:31 PM (#2851926) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Steve Gardham Hi Jorg, Don't suppose these CD tracks are in English. I'm too long in the tooth to start learning Scandinavian, but how I wish I had the time. I have all of the well-known English translations mainly Danish, but I wish we could convince some enterprising translator to have a go at some of the Norwegian or Swedish, or Icelandic, or Faroese collections. Literal translations preferable, rather than literary. |
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27 Feb 10 - 11:21 PM (#2852026) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,m Here is a youtube clip from the Faroe Islands, where youngsters are learning how to dance and sing the Faroese dance The ballad they're singing is "Sinklars vísa": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXN1c11ZyqI Wiki about the Faroese dance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroese_dance |
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12 Dec 10 - 04:07 PM (#3051984) Subject: RE: Norse ballads. From: GUEST,maureen douglas Hi Malcolm: ARe you the Malcolm Douglas from Lake Forest, Illinois? I'm doing some geneology research on the Douglas family. My father was Austin Douglas and his father was Thomas Douglas, of Lake Forest Illinois. I knowI had cousins names Malcolm, Donnie, and Bruce, but I don't remember you I was born in Lake Forest in 1947 - mother was "Doris." Aunt Annie and relation? |
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12 Dec 10 - 04:54 PM (#3052015) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: Richard Mellish Maureen, The Malcolm Douglas who contributed so much good sense on this forum lived in the UK but is no longer with us. See Obit: Malcolm Douglas Richard |
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12 Dec 10 - 10:51 PM (#3052178) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: open mike the source for Scandinavian and Nordic music in the U.S. is the record label Northside at www.noside.com |
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26 Feb 13 - 04:53 PM (#3484017) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,MorwenEdhelwen1 http://www.odins-gift.com/pclass/1pclass.htm Includes the translations of some ballads. |
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26 Feb 13 - 04:59 PM (#3484021) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,MorwenEdhelwen1 http://www.odins-gift.com/pclass/1pclass.htm The URL as a link. |
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27 Feb 13 - 01:55 PM (#3484378) Subject: RE: Norse ballads From: GUEST,sciencegeek if you are near Boston, MA the weekend of April 18 checkout the NEFFA festival in Mansfield. Sonja Savig will be there and I think that her old album of Norwegian folksongs is out on CD now. |