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Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42

24 Feb 14 - 10:58 PM (#3604576)
Subject: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST,Kegan

Does anyone know where I can either:

a) Locate this box set at a cheaper price than the Amazon Marketplace prices of $140ish+ for damaged copies

b) Download this 13CD set in a lossless format such as FLAC or 320kbps

c) Obtain the SAME material via numerous CD albums?

In short, I want all the music as cheaply as possible. I'm willing to pay for physical discs only, or not at all.

I realize WII era music might not be in keeping with the spirit of this forum, and I apologize, but I have no idea where else to ask. I'd like to have this on hand for my 91-year old grandmother. I currently have a downloaded copy, but it's only 80kbps; while I can listen to it enjoyably, I'd be interested in knowing how much better the CDs might sound.

Thanks for any responses!


24 Feb 14 - 11:19 PM (#3604579)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST

I think it's a 13-CD set. Could be difficult to find at a cheaper price than that you indicated. Good luck.


24 Feb 14 - 11:25 PM (#3604583)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST,snick

Kegan, have you browsed www.archive.org
It's a legit music sharing site
If you search on glenn miller you should find much of miller's music in multiple formats flac, mp3, etc. and you can choose the songs you want to download


25 Feb 14 - 12:19 AM (#3604587)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Jim Dixon

You can listen to the whole thing free on Spotify.

It plays a commercial after every 5th song or so.

I don't know what format they use, but it probably isn't lossless.

I presume you're talking about "The Complete Glenn Miller and His Orchestra" (BMG Music, 1991)


25 Feb 14 - 12:23 AM (#3604589)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST,audio Phil

just a reminder, 320kbps isn't lossless;

though close enough for many folk not to notice.


05 Mar 14 - 11:54 PM (#3607597)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST

I know, which is why I'm pushing for FLAC. I don't notice 320kbps deficiencies, but it's knowing it isn't lossless that bugs me.

Thanks for the suggestions! I've got plenty of free sources to hear GMO (yes, I mean the BMG uber-set from 1991 or so) - I'm mainly interested in just having the material on legal disc, and it's a shame that it would have gone out-of-print just like that. Wartime era music really needs to see a fuller reissue on disc.


06 Mar 14 - 09:18 PM (#3607867)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Thomas Stern

look for it on eBay, GEMM, Musicstack, CDandLP and other secondary
market sites. Might find a new one at some online dealer. Where
have you searched?
Best wishes, Thomas.

Glenn Miller on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=glenn+miller+complete&_sacat=11233&_from=R40


07 Mar 14 - 12:16 AM (#3607890)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST

I've so far only looked on Gemm and eBay, thanks!


07 Mar 14 - 06:30 AM (#3607945)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Jim McLean

Just an aside: a number of years ago my wife said there was someone on the telephone for me, "one of your stupid Scottish friends!"
It was actually Herb Miller, Glenn Miller's brother who wanted me to issue a cassette of his material. He eventually visited me and was a charming man, in a faux tartan jacket. Sorry for the thread drift.


07 Mar 14 - 01:24 PM (#3608046)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

A set on eBay for US$75, which would be a terrific bargain.

It is hard to find any good CDs new at less than $10 each, so the prices of about $140 seem reasonable for the set of 18.


27 May 14 - 04:38 PM (#3628607)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST

@ Jim - That's a great story...I saw Herb on a YouTube documentary the other night, shown in the 80s, on the History Channel concerning GM's disappearance. I was struck by how much alike the two brothers' voices sounded in their tone. Not surprised, merely impressed that they sounded so distinctly similar.

@ Q - I wonder if your 18-CD post is a typo, as the largest set I've seen is the 1991 issue with 13 discs. Either way, thanks for your input! I couldn't get into my eBay due to the forced password change, so I opened a new account last night, and won a copy of the set in supposed used-like new condition. There were about 8 different photographs, so I took a shot and won it for $69.50 shipped, which is about $5.35 per disc, a mite lower than $75 if indeed the numbers are both 13 CDs. Thank you also for your info regarding quality CD price-per-disc and the alternatives to eBay for music searching.

@audio Phil, snick and Jim Lawson, thanks for your comments as well. I had no idea it was free online for streaming, which will do until I get the discs ripped and formatted. I love archive, but had previously only searched via Google or YouTube.

I eventually plan to amass music on SDcard from 1890s - 1940s, if not further, and play it through an antique radio I'm restoring with my tablet tucked behind the woodwork. This world has become too futuristic too fast for my old-fashioned tastes, and while I can appreciate the modern conveniences, I still miss the past. I'm disabled with cerebral palsy, and going back and forth between elderly relations, I make my hobbyist money via online surveys. I was thinking I'd have to spend a lot more for this music. Thanks for helping me find out otherwise!


27 May 14 - 04:46 PM (#3628610)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST,Kegan

Correction - My apologies, thanks to Thomas Stern for the searchable websites for album procurement!


27 May 14 - 05:19 PM (#3628615)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Joe Offer

The 1991 Bluebird/RCA set is very good. It's available used and in very good condition at Amazon Marketplace for ninety bucks. The MP3 version is $45. The standard MP3 files are 256 kbps, which is plenty for my less-than-perfect hearing. I can't believe you will get better sound from a lossless MP3 of a 1940 recording, but maybe I'm wrong.

-Joe-


27 May 14 - 06:37 PM (#3628633)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: The Sandman

a relative of mine Nat Peck, who is still alive, played with glenn miller


28 May 14 - 02:21 PM (#3628758)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: Leadbelly

Hi, Good Soldier Schweik,

are you sure: Nat Peck?

For " King Porter Stomp", recorded in 1938, a person called Bob Peck (tp) is listed.

Is he the same person? Must be very old in the meantime.

Manfred


28 May 14 - 04:33 PM (#3628779)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: The Sandman

Nat Peck
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (June 2009)
Nat Peck
Born         January 13, 1925 (age 89)
New York City, New York
Genres         jazz
Instruments         trombone
Years active         1943–1990s
Associated acts         Glenn Miller, Don Redman, Coleman Hawkins, James Moody, Roy Eldridge, Don Byas, Kenny Clarke, Dizzy Gillespie, Michel Legrand, Léo Ferré, André Hodeir, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Peter Herbolzheimer

Nat Peck (born January 13, 1925) is an American jazz trombonist.

Nat Peck was born in New York City. He played with Glenn Miller (1943–45) and Don Redman (1947) early in his career. After moving to France, where he lived from 1947 to 1951, he attended the Paris Conservatory (1949–51) and played with Coleman Hawkins (1949), James Moody (1949–50), Roy Eldridge, Don Byas and Kenny Clarke (1950). In the 1950s Peck played on television in New York and Paris. In 1953 he recorded with Dizzy Gillespie.

Peck returned to France again in the 1960s, playing with Michel Legrand, Léo Ferré, André Hodeir and Duke Ellington. He spent some time in England and Germany, working as a staff musician at Sender Freies Berlin and playing with Quincy Jones and the Clarke-Boland Big Band (1963–69). He relocated to London in 1965, where he became active in the studios, film, and television. He worked with Benny Goodman in 1970–72 and with Peter Herbolzheimer in 1979.

Peck had more or less retired by the 1990s, but remained in the music industry as a contractor and promoter.


28 May 14 - 09:58 PM (#3628818)
Subject: RE: Complete Glenn Miller Orchestra 38 - 42
From: GUEST,Kegan

Just an update that I have FOUND a near mint copy for $69.50, shipped the other day. I will let you all know how I feel the quality turns out.

In the meantime, please feel free to view the larger scope of my musical obsessiveness here, covering my search for music/media from yesteryear up through the Second World War and beyond.