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Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2

12 Nov 14 - 09:51 AM (#3676665)
Subject: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Herga Kitty

I recorded the first programme, 1914, last night and have now listened to it - some great new songs and singing from John Tams, Bob Fox, Rachel Unthank etc, as well as the authentic spoken witnesses. Can be heard here.

Kitty


12 Nov 14 - 09:56 AM (#3676669)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Herga Kitty

Oops, lost the link - try again here!


13 Nov 14 - 09:07 AM (#3676885)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

The Ballad of the Great War - 1914

1/5 The ballad of 1914, featuring stories told by men and women who took part in the conflict.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04n2d2s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04m4j7g

The Ballad of the Great War - 1914, featuring stories told by men and women who took part in those first few months of the conflict both at home and abroad. The stories are accompanied by original music written especially for the programme and was inspired by the stories told.

In this programme we hear stories about La Belle Epoque, the era of calm before the outbreak of the first world war, the clamour by young men to join the army during August 1914, the London buses which were conscripted into the army to take the troops to the battlefields, the battle of Mons, trench warfare, the bombardment by German battleships of Scarborough, Whitby and Hartlepool and The Christmas Truce.

The songs for this programme are written by John Tams, Billy Bragg, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe and Sean Cooney.

This programme, which has been a year in the making, was produced by John Leonard.

CJB


13 Nov 14 - 09:10 AM (#3676887)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

Can be recorded using Audacity and Stereo Mix as i/p. Or can be downloaded using the latest get_iplayer or iFetch apps. CJB


13 Nov 14 - 09:21 AM (#3676893)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: OldNicKilby

"Ballads of the Great War " implies that they were current at the time . Not written by Tams , Fox The Unthanks et al


13 Nov 14 - 11:28 AM (#3676930)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

This is the list that I've discerned so far - amendments welcome.

Cherry Cheeked Optimists (John Tams) John Tams

La Belle Epoque (Jez Lowe) Bob Fox

We're Joining Up, Boys (Julie Matthews) Barry Coope and Lester Simpson plus brass arranged by Richard Rock and boots

Wrong Bus (Jez Lowe) Roy Bailey

Mons (John Tams) John Tams

Digging In ( ) Bob Fox and Barry Coope

One December Morn (Sean Cooney) Rachel and Becky Unthank

Christmas with the Hun (Billy Bragg) Billy Bragg

Songwriters; John Tams, Jez Lowe, Julie Matthews, Sean Cooney and Billy Bragg

Performers; Bob Fox, Roy Bailey, Lester Simpson, Barry Coope, Rachel and Becky Unthank, Billy Bragg, John McCusker and Andy Cutting


13 Nov 14 - 11:50 AM (#3676937)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,veteran

may well be interesting material but hardly lives up to the title, as pointed out by OLdNic- there are plenty of GENUINE 'Ballads of the Great War'- do we really need new songs by folk celebs? Am sure the whole thing is very respectful, at least I hope it is- have no intention of listening to such stuff, it seems superfluous to me


13 Nov 14 - 12:40 PM (#3676950)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Everybody has the choice!

A long discussion follows about the definition of 'genuine'.


13 Nov 14 - 01:19 PM (#3676959)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Perhaps I should have added that this series is intended to continue the format of the Radio Ballads created by Ewan MacColl, Peggy Seeger and Charles Parker in 1958, integrating eye-witness accounts from veterans into fifty new songs.


13 Nov 14 - 01:19 PM (#3676960)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Herga Kitty

The BBC has run series of radio ballads, using new songs to describe past events and occupations, before.... just because they weren't written at the time of the events they relate to doesn't mean they aren't worth listening to?

Kitty


13 Nov 14 - 02:47 PM (#3676985)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,vetean

Nobody said they weren't worth listening to- just doubtful that they add anything to the existing store of material. Maybe some will survive- a few of MacColl's have, it's true, but I think I used the word 'genuine' in its true sense


13 Nov 14 - 02:48 PM (#3676986)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: JHW

The PROGRAMME is surely The Ballad as were the original Radio Ballads.
(One of those had the title 'The Ballad of John Axon').

The new programme is 'The Ballad of the Great War - 1914' ie five programmes are five 'Ballads'.
Ballads of the Great War is the series title.


13 Nov 14 - 03:14 PM (#3676990)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: JHW

Scarborough Art Gallery has its upper floor devoted to the story of the naval bombardment in November 1914 featuring the same retelling of local interviews as the latter part of the 1914 Ballad.
The exhibition 'Remember Scarborough' is worth seeing if you can get to Scarborough. Runs till January. Scarborough Art Gallery


14 Nov 14 - 03:14 AM (#3677087)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Thompson

Apparently the soldiers loathed the war fever of the 'blighters' back in 'Blighty'. I wonder are there many songs expressing this.


14 Nov 14 - 11:50 AM (#3677191)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,veteran

try 'Hanging on the old barbed wire' what modern song could rival this as a critique of the b.... who promoted this was, wherever they came from


14 Nov 14 - 12:37 PM (#3677206)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Here's one example;

Your King and Country need You

Oh, we don't want to lose you
But we think you ought to go
For your King and your country
Both need you so
We shall want you and miss you
But with all our might and main
We shall cheer you, thank you
Kiss you when you come back again

These parodies are the soldiers' reply;

We don't want your loving
And we think you're awfully slow
To see we don't want you
So please won't you go
We don't like your sing-songs
And we hate your refrain
So don't you dare sing it
Near us again

Now we don't want to hurry you
But it's time you ought to go
For your songs and your speeches
They bore us so
Your coaxings and pettings
Drive us insane
Oh we hate you, and'll boo you
And hiss you if you sing it again

But I think soldiers' concerns were often closer to hand.


14 Nov 14 - 02:39 PM (#3677231)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,DaveRo

Previous Radio Ballads have relied on the songs and the voices of those involved - the fishermen, roadbuilders, or railwaymen in the original Radio Ballads. This one adds a narrator/historian to put the events in context; it turned it into a bit of a history lesson, I thought.


08 Nov 16 - 05:04 PM (#3819074)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GMGough

BBC Radio 2 Saturday 12th November 2016
Episode 3 of 5 will be broadcast at 9.00 pm
and will cover 1916

Did I miss the broadcast of episode 2
which covered 1915 and was presumably
broadcast in November 2015 ?


08 Nov 16 - 05:28 PM (#3819079)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

2015_programme.

Not available on iPlayer.


11 Nov 16 - 01:15 AM (#3819773)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SB

Huh - you'd have thought that the Beeb might have let folks hear the previous episodes for 1914 & 1915.

There was also this prog. ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lp2m9


11 Nov 16 - 08:10 AM (#3819835)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SB

Try here for a few days ...

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b3e0mmr5tkz9c/Ballads_of_the_Great_War


12 Nov 16 - 02:52 PM (#3820172)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

2016 programme - 2100 GMT today and then on iPlayer for a month, I expect:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b081mm10


14 Nov 16 - 10:55 AM (#3820483)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,CB

get_iplayer will download it.


14 Nov 16 - 05:27 PM (#3820546)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

"indeed it will" but easier to use its front end - Web PVR


16 Nov 16 - 09:57 AM (#3820964)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SB

Yes - but the prog. will not be listed as available on the Web PVR after about 7 days. Between 7 and 30 days you have to use the command line version. Viz.:

c:/program files/get_iplayer>get_iplayer --type=radio --pid=b081mm10 should do it.

From the UK it is possible to download in 320kbps from the new DASH servers. If overseas this is reduced to 196kbps. But you need to know how.

The FAQ & Help / Support are here:

https://squarepenguin.co.uk/
https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/

Support Mailing List is at:

[get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org]


16 Nov 16 - 10:59 AM (#3820979)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

For anyone not familiar with the BBC's Programme Identifier (PID) system, a bit of explanation. Each programme (episode) has a code - you can see it in the link I posted earlier and in the URL of any programme page you display in a browser. There are actually several levels:
david@pan:~> get_iplayer --preset radio  --pid=b03z7zx8
...

INFO: Brand pid detected
INFO: Brand: 'World War One' (b03z7zx8)
INFO:    Series: 'The Ballads of the Great War' (b04n2d2s)
INFO:      Episode 'The Ballad of the Great War - 1914' (b04m4j7g)
INFO:      Episode 'The Ballad of the Great War - 1915' (b06nn8bg)
INFO:      Episode 'The Ballad of the Great War - 1916' (b081mm10)
INFO:    Series: 'The Songs and Shows of World War I' (b04q0z92)
INFO:      Episode '1914: We Don't Want to Lose You' (b04q10gh)
INFO:      Episode '1915' (b06nt201)
INFO:    Series:
INFO:      Episode 'All Is Calm - The Story of the Christmas Truce' (b04ttzjl)
INFO:      Episode 'Forgotten Heroes: The Indian Army in the Great War' (b04tkz1w)
INFO:      Episode 'Oh What a Lovely War' (b03thcl8)
INFO:      Clip 'Christmas trees in the trenches' (p02fkbz6)
INFO: Please run the command again using one of the above episode PIDs or to get all programmes add the --pid-recursive option
So if you want a whole series you can download them all at once. But not all these episodes are retrievable - the 1915 ballads programme (b06nn8bg) isn't - it's too old.


20 Dec 16 - 04:28 AM (#3827525)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Andy Northerner

It would be great if someone could upload an mp3 or m4a of the 2016 show
Many Thanks in advance


20 Dec 16 - 02:07 PM (#3827637)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SB

Try here for a few days ...

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b3e0mmr5tkz9c/Ballads_of_the_Great_War


21 Dec 16 - 03:00 AM (#3827700)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

Bummer. Too late....

Any chance of a re-up?


23 Dec 16 - 05:46 AM (#3828201)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

Bump...


24 Dec 16 - 04:17 AM (#3828395)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

Try the link again.


24 Dec 16 - 06:05 PM (#3828535)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SqueezeMe

Thank you very, very much :-)


25 Dec 16 - 01:34 PM (#3828675)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Andy Northerner

Hi there
For the guys that posted the 2016 ballads many thanks
I am trying to get the bbc radio 6 Roy Wood show as my father is a hige fan. It was broadcast today
Any info on how I can download this show from iplayer would be amazing

Many Thanks
Merry Christmas from
Andy


26 Dec 16 - 05:19 AM (#3828772)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

Use get_iplayer


08 Nov 17 - 06:19 AM (#3887468)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GMGough

Episode 4 (of 5) to be broadcast
9.00 pm Saturday 11th November 2017

According to the new issue of Radio Times,
this series concludes next autumn".


09 Nov 17 - 10:42 AM (#3887698)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,CJB

Yup - just the one new show to be aired on Saturday. All the rest are not available on iPlayer anymore, and likely will never be repeated.


09 Nov 17 - 11:18 AM (#3887701)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

My post 16 Nov 16 - 10:59 AM listed episodes in the series (PID b04n2d2s) whether available or not. get_iplayer doesn't seem to do that any more (I have 3.05):

get_iplayer --preset radio   --pid=b04n2d2s
...
No episode PIDs found for parent PID: b04n2d2s
Presumably one will appear on Saturday.

If there are series like this one which might be rebroadcast one day I suppose you could put their series PIDs in a file and run a CRON job every month to see if any had been.


09 Nov 17 - 07:51 PM (#3887776)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Guest

It wasn't a great war - it was F***ing awful.


11 Nov 17 - 05:58 AM (#3887990)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

It's Armistice Day today.

Ballad of the Great War Episode 4/5
BBC Radio 2
9.00pm Saturday 11th November 2017

With contributions from John Tams, Jez Lowe, Karine Polwart and Ray Hearne. Barry Coope joins The Thurnscoe Harmonic Male Voice Choir to sing his arrangement of ?Trench Raid?, a new song written by Sean Cooney of The Young ?Uns. Jim Boyes & Maarten Decombel perform ?Passchendaele?, a song by Jim which was specially commissioned for the programme.

The final episode will come next year.

I'll be at Gregson Lane Folk Club, Preston, tonight to hear Robb Johnson's WW1 suite Gentlemen, performed by Roy Bailey and Robb Johnson.


11 Nov 17 - 06:12 AM (#3887993)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

I have Robb's double-CD of 'Gentlemen'. I recommend it.


11 Nov 17 - 07:34 AM (#3887996)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

He has released two double CDs of the suite!

The first was the by the original cast of the Paschendaele Peace Concert, including Roy Bailey. The more recent is IRR099: GENTLE MEN, A SOLO PERFORMANCE Released 6th November 2015.

Gentle Men tells the stories of Robb Johnson?s grandfathers, Ernest Johnson and Harry Jenner. The songs present the effect of history on two of its statistics, two gentle men, who survived the First World War, but were forever in its shadow.


11 Nov 17 - 12:45 PM (#3888036)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

It seems that get_iplayer 2.97 will no longer record live TV as it used to - thank you BBC! I wanted to record the Festival of Remembrance on BBC One this evening to my PC as our freesat is fully occupied.

However, this BBC One HD Live webstream lurking in the shadows can be captured free of iplayer restrictions using ffmpeg!

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio_video/simulcast/hls/uk/abr_hdtv/ak/bbc_one_hd.m3u8


11 Nov 17 - 02:51 PM (#3888052)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

GUEST,henryp wrote: He has released two double CDs of the suite!

The first was the by the original cast of the Paschendaele Peace Concert, including Roy Bailey.
That's the one I have: IRR030 -1997. Also features Vera Coomans. Many of the songs are accompanied by 'the Golden Serenaders' - which recreates the inter-war music by the band of that name in which one of his Grandfathers toured Europe. Until they had to stop - "what with Noni being Jewish".

I can't imagine a solo performance.


11 Nov 17 - 02:54 PM (#3888053)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

Latest get-iplayer is 3.06 - though I have 3.05.


12 Nov 17 - 08:03 AM (#3888129)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

I seem to have get iplayer 3.04 at the moment, and just installed 2.97 when I wanted to record live BBC TV, but although the Web PVR Manager shows an option to record live TV, it no longer works - at least on my PC it doesn't.


12 Nov 17 - 09:36 AM (#3888138)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,CJB

get_iplayer is at v3.06 - due to massive changes by the Beeb. Even then the PVR otpion doesn't handle TV progs very well. Use the CLS option for TV.


12 Nov 17 - 09:46 AM (#3888139)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

What is CLS?

I downloaded the British Legion Festival of Remembrance in HD using command line in get_iplayer this morning OK - 3gb+ mp4 file!!


12 Nov 17 - 09:54 AM (#3888141)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,CJB

CLS is the command line option - which apparently you used!!


12 Nov 17 - 09:55 AM (#3888142)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

Thanks!


13 Nov 17 - 06:21 PM (#3888417)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: rich-joy

Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,SB - PM    Date: 20 Dec 16 - 02:07 PM

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b3e0mmr5tkz9c/Ballads_of_the_Great_War


THANK YOU so much for these!!! Much appreciated.

R-J
Down Under


14 Nov 17 - 08:35 AM (#3888518)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Ballad of the Great War 1917; broadcast 11 November 2017

Original music by John Tams, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Jim Boyes, Sean Cooney, Karine Polwart and Ray Hearne intertwined with tales of the war.

Other contributors; Bob Fox, Sam Kelly, Olivia Chaney, Kris Drever, Barry Coope, John McCusker.

I've paired them up as best I can;

John Tams sings Theme song ? Johnny comes marching home again - words Jez Lowe
Jez Lowe sings Nick of time
Bob Fox sings Over my heart
Barry Coope and the Thurnscoe Harmonic Male Voice Choir sing Trench Raid written by Sean Cooley
Sam Kelly sings Pips upon his shoulder
Jim Boyes and Maarten Decombel sing Passchendaele written by Jim Boyes
Karine Polwart sings Breath of the gods
Olivia Chaney sings My boy Billy
Theme song reprise by John Tams

27 days left to listen on BBC iplayer.

A Garland for Joey; The War Horse Songbook
A Retelling by Bob Fox, Songman, and John Tams, Songmaker

This new album includes the complete War Horse Songbook and a postscript of new works ? companion pieces to the storytelling and the ever-resonating impact of The Great War.

Bob Fox?s intuitive and masterful re-telling of these songs, accompanied by his beautifully accomplished guitar settings, and additionally in the company of Carlton Main Frickley Colliery Band, form the heart of the album ? at its core a message of remembrance and above all peace.

A Garland for Joey is released on 11th November 2017 via Fledg?ling Records.


15 Nov 17 - 02:03 PM (#3888770)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Bonzo3legs

We listened to 30 minutes of it over breakfast today and agreed that it's very boring indeed, and with exception of John Tams, the music is dire.


15 Nov 17 - 04:38 PM (#3888796)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

The Wrong Bus


27 Feb 18 - 07:36 AM (#3908268)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Soyoth

Hi there

Does anyone know where I can listen to 1917? I was in hospital when it was on

Thanks


01 Mar 18 - 04:11 AM (#3908692)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Observer

Am I missing something here?

Ballads of the Great War surely means, or implies, ballads of, or from that time.

"Ballad of the Great War 1917; broadcast 11 November 2017

Original music by John Tams, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Jim Boyes, Sean Cooney, Karine Polwart and Ray Hearne intertwined with tales of the war.

Other contributors; Bob Fox, Sam Kelly, Olivia Chaney, Kris Drever, Barry Coope, John McCusker.


Now as NONE of the above were "of" that time then surely they are only capable of writing modernist songs about the First World War.


01 Mar 18 - 04:28 AM (#3908697)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

You may have missed the discussion earlier in the thread.

The title of this episode is 'The Ballad of the Great War 1917'. The whole series is called 'The Ballads of the Great War'.

"Accounts of life and death on the Western Front in words and music, featuring eye-witness accounts from veterans and specially commissioned songs by British folk songwriters"


01 Mar 18 - 07:53 AM (#3908736)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Joe G

The reason for the title is that it is part of a series of Radio Ballads that have taken the format used by Ewan MacColl and created new programmes on a range of themes including this annual programme about WW1


02 Mar 18 - 06:29 AM (#3908954)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Soyoth

Hi

Sorry ; does anyone know of a link to 1917?


02 Mar 18 - 08:56 AM (#3908984)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: mayomick

Happily the BBC’s war nostalgia isn’t available in this part of Ireland . Piqued that our forefathers didn’t do their bit during the scrap presumably , stabbed old Blighty in the back in 1916 and all that .


03 Mar 18 - 03:24 PM (#3909279)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Guest -

If anyone wants these pseudo Radio Ballads - put a throw-away email address here and they can be sent to you.


03 Mar 18 - 04:49 PM (#3909289)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GeoffLawes

What is a "throw-away email address" please?


04 Mar 18 - 03:56 AM (#3909345)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GeoffLawes

I found this explanation on the web. Does anyone have experience of any of these services . Any does and don’ts?
https://webdesignofpalmbeach.net/site/reducing-spam-whats-your-throw-away-email-address/


04 Mar 18 - 05:25 AM (#3909356)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: DaveRo

The main rule is to get a disposable email address, or any email address, from an organisation you trust not to spy on the emails you intend to receive. But it's a lot of trouble to go to. You could use any email address that you tolerate being spammed - don't you already have one? I have a a gmail address I use for occasional online purchases which I suspect might get spammed and which I'm prepared to abandon. And I've used it for years - gmail catches most if the junk. And if you post it here as 'something AT something.com' it's not very likely to be harvested for spam anyway.

I wonder why Guest specifies this method rather than a PM or posting a link? (Mods: I suggest splitting this email stuff into a tech thread.)


04 Mar 18 - 07:51 AM (#3909368)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GeoffLawes

Thanks DaveRo and perhaps a new thread might be appropriate


05 Mar 18 - 06:04 AM (#3909516)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST

All I'm suggesting is that folks simply supply an email address too which said file(s) can be sent via WeTransfer.


19 Jun 18 - 02:00 PM (#3931940)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Soyoth

Sorry for the bump.

Does anyone have 1917 available?


16 Oct 18 - 09:41 AM (#3956883)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

The Ballads of the Great War will be repeated on BBC Radio 2 in 2018.

Announced so far;
Wednesday 17 October Radio 2 9pm 1/5 1914
Wednesday 24 October Radio 2 9pm 2/5 1915
Wednesday 31 October Radio 2 9pm 3/5 1916
And I assume;
Wednesday 07 October Radio 2 9pm 4/5 1917

Friday 09 November Radio 2 19:50
The Ballads of the Great War - Live Join the author Michael Morpurgo and the BBC Philharmonic in this very special event to mark 100 years since the end of the First World War.

I don't know whether the above is an additional programme, or whether 5/5 1918 will follow on Sunday 11 November Radio 2 9pm.


16 Oct 18 - 09:51 AM (#3956885)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Should be Wednesday 07 November Radio 2 9pm 4/5 1917.

But you already worked that out!


21 Oct 18 - 04:16 PM (#3957761)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Friday 2 November 2018 20:00 BBC RADIO 2

Friday Night is Music Night; War Horse: The Story In Concert

War Horse: The Story In Concert features the music of Adrian Sutton and was developed from the National Theatre's production of War Horse.

Since its opening in 2007 this has spent more than 8 years in London's West End and has now played to more than 7 million people all over the world, as well as being adapted for the big screen by Stephen Spielberg.

This latest version of War Horse sets the book alongside the dramatic sounds and colours created by the orchestra and choir and as they and the narrators bring Michael Morpurgo's story to life in a completely new way.

Ken Bruce presents a special concert version of Michael Morpurgo's story of Joey, the young farm horse who travels from the peace of the Devon countryside to the battlefields of the Western Front.

This performance was recorded earlier this year at Coventry Cathedral as part of the BBC's Biggest Weekend and features the BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by David Charles Abell, Hertfordshire Chorus, baritone soloist Mark Stone and is narrated by Simon Callow and Juliet Stevenson.


24 Oct 18 - 07:36 PM (#3958211)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: FreddyHeadey

here some clickies.
Only some will be available.
@ Oct\Nov 2018 the "Ballads" programmes will be available for a while
& the "Friday Night Is Music Night" programmes.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BBC Radio2 
World War One

The Ballads of the Great War -

1914
"In this programme we hear stories about La Belle Époque, the era of calm before the outbreak of the first world war, the clamour by young men to join the army during August 1914, the London buses which were conscripted into the army to take the troops to the battlefields, the battle of Mons, trench warfare, the bombardment by German battleships of Scarborough, Whitby and Hartlepool and The Christmas Truce.
The songs for this programme are written by John Tams, Billy Bragg, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe and Sean Cooney."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04m4j7g 

1915
"In this programme we hear about the Zeppelin air raids when, for the first time in modern warfare, towns and cities of mainland Britain were bombed, the disastrous Gallipoli campaign and we also hear the stories of two women who survived the attack on the ill fated liner Lusitania, sunk by a U-boat off Ireland in May 1915 with the loss of over 1000 passengers and crew.
The songs for this programme are performed by John Tams, Martin Carthy, Chris While, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Barbara Dickson and Heidi Talbot."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nn8bg 

1916
"In this programme stories of trench warfare, tunnellers working under enemy lines, pals regiments and that fatal summer offensive on the Somme.
Original music by John Tams, Seth Lakeman, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Boo Hewerdine and Bernard Wrigley.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b081mm10 

1917
"In this programme stories of lucky escapes, the horrors of Passchendaele, field hospitals and the sad fate of those condemned to be shot at dawn.
Original music by John Tams, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Jim Boyes, Sean Cooney, Karine Polwart and Ray Hearne."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09dwbmq 

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The Songs and Shows of World War I :
Russell Davies ... exploration of the musical background to World War I, from the Broadway stages to the whistling in the trenches.

1914
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04q10gh 

1915
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nt201 

1916
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b085gq8p 

1917
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09fmgkv 

(https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03z7zx8/episodes/guide )


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The New Radio Ballads
Wed 5 Nov 2014
"John Tams talks about Radio 2's new series of Radio Ballads, The Ballads of the Great War."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lp2m9 

The Indian Army in the Great War
Sat 8 Nov 2014
"Sarfraz Manzoor tells the forgotten story of the 1.27 million men from the Indian Army who fought valiantly in the First World War."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tkz1w 

Oh What a Lovely War -
Fri 14 Nov 2014
"Theatre Royal Stratford East restages its controversial WW1 musical satire."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03thcl8 

The Story of the Christmas Truce
Christmas Eve 2015
"John Hurt tells the story of the First World War Christmas truce through diaries, letters and archive accounts from the soldiers themselves."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04ttzjl 

Friday Night is Music Night
War Horse: The Story In Concert
02 November 2018
"...the music of Adrian Sutton and was developed from the National Theatre's production of War Horse.
BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by David Charles Abell,
Hertfordshire Chorus,
baritone soloist Mark Stone
narrated by Simon Callow and Juliet Stevenson."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0000z9j 

Friday Night is Music Night
Michael Morpurgo and the BBC Philharmonic
Fri Nov 9 2018
"... new orchestral arrangements by Greg Lawson, and will be interwoven with the poignant testimonies that inspired them.
Respected folk artists
Bob Fox, John Tams, Chris While, Julie Matthews and Jez Lowe
will sing the songs, along with popular music from the time."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001242 
(event https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e8zcd4)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03z7zx8/episodes/guide



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bbc iPlayer Radio app
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3yvdp3zQJWLtl204z9nxgRt/download-the-iplayer-radio-app 
(then click the '+' on the programme's web page
    then on the app click 
            Menu > My Radio > Listen Later)
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clip - requires BBC media player
Christmas trees in the trenches -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02fkbz6 


25 Oct 18 - 04:37 PM (#3958368)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: FreddyHeadey

The Ballads of the Great War -
1918
"In this programme stories of Blightys, Snipers, Choctaw code talkers, the Armistice and the sinking of the German fleet in Scapa Flow.
Original music by John Tams, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Boo Hewerdine and Kris Drever."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000149x 


25 Oct 18 - 05:51 PM (#3958384)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Thanks, Freddy, that should be the final episode.

The Ballads of the Great War
Wednesday 17 October Radio 2 21:00-22:00 1/5 1914
Wednesday 24 October Radio 2 21:00-22:00 2/5 1915
Wednesday 31 October Radio 2 21:00-22:00 3/5 1916
Wednesday 07 November Radio 2 21:00-22:00 4/5 1917
Saturday 10 November Radio 2 21:00-22:00 5/5 1918

plus Friday Night is Music Night
Friday 02 November Radio 2 20:00-22:00 War Horse: The Story In Concert
Friday 09 November Radio 2 20:00-22:00 The Ballads of the Great War - Live


05 Nov 18 - 07:01 PM (#3960313)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Wednesday 07 November Radio 2 21:00-22:00 The Ballads of the Great War 4/5 1917

Friday 09 November Radio 2 20:00-22:00 The Ballads of the Great War - Live

Specially arranged versions of songs from each of the four years, played by the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra and sung by Bob Fox, Chris While & Julie Matthews, John Tams, Jez Lowe and Barry Coope.

Jim Boyes will be singing an orchestrated version of “Passchendaele”, the ballad he contributed to the 1917 programme and also joining Barry Coope and the others to create a mighty chorus for their songs.

These will be interspersed with readings from his books, War Horse and Private Peaceful, by Michael Morpurgo and an Interval talk with songs from Barbara Dickson and Billy Bragg.


07 Nov 18 - 05:58 PM (#3960592)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: FreddyHeadey

BBC Radio 4extra
relevant but not folk, except there might be the odd snatch of a song
Archive interviews with those who experienced the First World War.
5 @ 60 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bqmc8n/episodes/guide


09 Nov 18 - 09:49 AM (#3960903)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,henryp

Tonight! Friday 09 November BBC Radio 2 20:00-22:00
The Ballads of the Great War - Live

Specially arranged versions of songs from each of the four years, played by the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra and sung by Bob Fox, Chris While & Julie Matthews, John Tams, Jez Lowe, Jim Boyes and Barry Coope.

Michael Morpurgo will read from his books War Horse, Private Peaceful and Only Remembered. A special guest appearance of world champion whistler David Morris, and an interval talk with songs from Barbara Dickson and Billy Bragg.

Tomorrow! Saturday 10 November BBC Radio 2 21:00-22:00
The final episode of the Ballads of the Great War 5/5 1918

Stories of Blightys, Snipers, Choctaw code talkers, the Armistice and the sinking of the German fleet in Scapa Flow. Original music by John Tams, Julie Matthews, Jez Lowe, Boo Hewerdine and Kris Drever.

But clashes with the Festival of Remembrance on BBC One TV 20:30-22:10


10 Nov 18 - 11:22 AM (#3961094)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,JoeG

What did people think of the live concert? I thought it was excellent. I was a little worried that the orchestration wouldn't work but Greg Lawson did a great job as he did with the Martyn Bennett orchestrations he did


10 Nov 18 - 11:47 AM (#3961101)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: GUEST,Pat Howard

I was there & it was brilliant. Very moving & well executed.


14 Nov 18 - 10:45 AM (#3961625)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: FreddyHeadey

Here's an associated programme on at the moment :

Thankful Villages
BBC Radio4

A Thankful or ‘Blessed’ village is a place where every soldier returned alive from World War One. Songwriter Darren Hayman heard about ‘Thankful Villages’ and knew that he had his next album title. He then embarked on a three year odyssey to visit all 54 of them..

Hayman writes a song for every village based on local characters, hidden stories and chance meetings.


There is a bit more about the project on his website
http://hefnet.com 


14 Nov 18 - 01:47 PM (#3961644)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: Jack Campin

And looking at a wider range of people affected:

https://blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2015/06/songs-and-music-of-refugees-of-the-first-world-war/

The largest group of refugees in the UK were probably the Belgians (about 250,000 of them). What musical record of their time in exile is there?


06 Jan 19 - 08:41 AM (#3970079)
Subject: RE: Ballads of the Great War BBC Radio 2
From: FreddyHeadey

[not folk]
In an omnibus edition of selected programmes from the final series, Dan Snow looks at some of the key events of 1918, from the German Spring Offensive in March, to the impact that the arrival of massed American troops had on the war. In interviews recorded by the BBC and the Imperial War Museums, those who were there recall the devastation caused by the Spanish Flu epidemic from May onwards, and the rapid advances made in the autumn as the Germans retreated. Finally Dan looks at the closing moments of the war on 11th November 1918, when the armistice took effect. When 11 o'clock came, alongside relief, disbelief, and celebrations, veterans recall that there was also an empty feeling, and a looming question that seemed to trouble many of them: what were they going to do now?

Voices of the First World War - 25/12/2018 - @bbcradio4
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001qtq