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14 Nov 15 - 10:04 AM (#3750836) Subject: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D Anna & Elizabeth have added a new 'crankie' to their collection. http://noisey.vice.com/blog/anna-elizabeth-greenwood-sidey For those who've not seen them, you can find several other examples on YouTube |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:19 AM (#3750840) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Steve Shaw Interesting. But, for me, the song version doesn't displace Shirley Collins's version with banjo. I know that comparison is invidious, of course! I like the illustrations a lot. |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:27 AM (#3750845) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Jeri I've seen/heard them do this song/crankie. I love the crankies, and Anna's guitar accompaniment is appropriately creepy and very original. |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:35 AM (#3750847) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D Indeed... there are versions of the tune I like better, but this ballad has many, many treatments. I know Anna & Elizabeth personally, and I know how they try to balance the length of the version with the artwork. (I have 3 versions of Shirley Collins singing it, with & without other voices on the chorus, and I agree it is well done.) This one is stark enough..... |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:43 AM (#3750852) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: GUEST,leeneia What is a crankie? |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:51 AM (#3750856) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D It is a moving version of a slide show. Art work is done on a roll of paper or fabric about 18" high and mounted in a box frame. This is 'cranked' by hand by the singer... or in the case of Anna & Elizabeth, one of them, while the other plays or sings. |
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14 Nov 15 - 10:56 AM (#3750859) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D More here On You Tube |
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14 Nov 15 - 11:01 AM (#3750861) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Dave Hanson I liked it a lot. Are they American ? pronouncing ' clerk ' as written and not the English pronunciation ' clark ' Dave H |
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14 Nov 15 - 11:05 AM (#3750864) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D Yes... very American. Elizabeth is from southern Virginia and steeped in Appalachian folklore & music. |
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15 Nov 15 - 09:20 AM (#3751074) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Jack Campin What's the instrument? Plucked cello, guitarron, ...? Verbal oddity: the woman lives in "the dark" (not "in York", as in most British versions) but falls in love with "her father's clerk", which doesn't rhyme because they use the American pronunciation of "clerk". So somehow, lyrics and pronunciation have drifted out of sync, after some intermediate stage where they matched. She'd have to live in the murk to make them fit together again. |
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15 Nov 15 - 10:26 AM (#3751092) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Bill D They both play banjo & guitar Here is a good intro to Elizabeth's story |
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15 Nov 15 - 03:45 PM (#3751157) Subject: RE: Child #20- Greenwoodsidey- illustrated From: Richard Mellish That version of the ballad with the crankie would be somewhat confusing if one didn't know the story from other versions. The penknife appears in the crankie but is not mentioned in the song. And the dialogue with the ghosts occurs without an introductory verse about her seeing them. Although I enjoyed Elizabeth and Anna's gig at the Musical Traditions Club in London I would have preferred to hear more of Elizabeth's harder style of singing as on her first CD and in the snatches of her singing in the video linked by Bill D 15 Nov 15 - 10:26 AM. |