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Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?

25 Mar 16 - 10:24 AM (#3781099)
Subject: Forsaken Love
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer

About 30 years ago when I was still unretired I taped a local music program so I could listen to it during my commute. I was listening to one earlier this week and ran across a song I did not remember. With a little research I found the title, lyrics and some recordings, but not the one on my tape.

It's an old Carter Family tune recorded by them and also Flatt and Scruggs.

Forsaken Love

They stood in the moonlight beside the gate
Goodbye my darling I know you'll wait
He sees her weeping and smile through her tears
Saying I've been true love through these long years

For on tomorrow at the break of day
He was to journey far far away
He held her closer his promised bride
And to her questions these words replied

   I've loved you always yes I've been true
   My heart shall ever beloved for you
   O darling believe me far over the sea
   Through life or death so faithful I'll be

One year past by he's coming home
His pilgrimage over no longer to roam
And smiling he thinks of her shinning eyes
Shinning with welcoming glad surprise

A dandy letter he takes from his breast
To which his extended lips were pressed
And reading once more by the warming light
These words he had spoken to her that night

Once more he seeks the old garden gate
But he rides a land alas it's too late
The wedding is over the knot is tied
He finds his darling another's bride

And later they found him there on the grass
A pistol near by tells what had passed
A crop of letters that explained the deed
And in the pale moonlight these words did read

Author: na
Version: Carter Family
Discography: Not Available

It can be found on Youtube, but here's a link from The ToneWay Project:

http://toneway.com/audio/song-clips/forsaken-love.mp3

My question is "Who recorded it besides the Carter Family and Flatt and Scruggs?"
I found a guitar rendition with no vocals, but then hit a dead end.
Maybe someone on this list knows of another recording. Oh, a female voice. by the way..


25 Mar 16 - 11:14 AM (#3781115)
Subject: RE: Forsaken love
From: GUEST,#

It was also done by the Bluegrass Ramblers (Ohio)


25 Mar 16 - 11:51 AM (#3781122)
Subject: RE: Forsaken love
From: GUEST,Mike Yates

The Carter Family recorded "Forsaken Love" on May 10th, 1928. It was issued on Victor V-40000 and Montgomery Ward M-4734. Lake Howard recorded a similar titled song on April 29th, 1935 and this was issued on ARC 5-11-57. Roy Lyons recorded it for Gennett Records on July 24th, 1929, but this recording was unissued.


29 Mar 16 - 12:57 PM (#3782080)
Subject: RE: Forsaken love
From: GUEST

I finally got my old tape out and converted that song to an MP3, but I don't know any way to post it here.

I can email it to anyone who wants to try to identify the female singer. It seems to be from a live performance.


29 Mar 16 - 02:37 PM (#3782086)
Subject: RE: Forsaken love
From: Joe Offer

I'd be glad to post the MP3 for you, Bob.
-Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor-
joe@mudcat.org


29 Mar 16 - 06:22 PM (#3782121)
Subject: RE: Forsaken Love - who recorded it?
From: GUEST

OK Joe. I sent you an attachment. Sure would like to know who the singer/group is.


30 Mar 16 - 01:33 AM (#3782163)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: Joe Offer

Here's the MP3 Bob sent. I don't recognize the band - I sure hope somebody will.



Click to play (joeweb)


30 Mar 16 - 01:55 AM (#3782164)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST

According to something I read, the song is sometimes known as 'I Will Love Thee Always.' I don't know if that will help things or confuse them.


30 Mar 16 - 01:58 AM (#3782165)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST

And another where it's called 'Broken Hearted Lover' with some similar and some different lyrics.


30 Mar 16 - 03:06 AM (#3782169)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST,Mike Yates

Songs with the title "Broken Hearted Lover" were recorded by the Carter Family in 1932, this recording appeared on a Victor 78, and in 1935, this latter recording appearing on quite a few different 78's. The Carolina Buddies recorded it in 1931 for Columbia. Ernest Stoneman's version was recorded in 1928, for Victor, and the Delmore Brothers cut it for Decca in 1940. There was also a recording by Cal Davenport for Vocalion in 1929. It could well be that these recordings are for different, though similarly titled, songs.

Further details may be found in Tony Russell's invaluable book "Country Music Records. A Discography 1921 - 1942." Published by Oxford University Press, 2004.


30 Mar 16 - 03:56 AM (#3782176)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST,Hootenanny

Joe,

That sounds to me like Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper.

Hoot


30 Mar 16 - 01:59 PM (#3782304)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST

You may be right, Hootenanny. I poked around a bit ant found a reference to the song on Rounder Records, Rounder 0143. Record by Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper

I finally hit a site that had the track list and "Forsaken Love" is on it. I'm pretty sure now that is what I have been searching for.

Thanks for your talented ear.


30 Mar 16 - 09:35 PM (#3782362)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: Joe Offer

Ah, a happy end to an interesting story...


30 Mar 16 - 11:05 PM (#3782371)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: Janie

I agree. Sounds like Wilma Lee Cooper's voice to me.


31 Mar 16 - 07:28 AM (#3782404)
Subject: RE: Carter Family'Forsaken Love'-who else recorded it?
From: GUEST

I must have played that tape and later CD a couple of dozen times over the years, but never thought much about it until now. Well I went ahead and bought an LP I found on-line. There are a number for sale.

Again thanks for the help.