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20 Dec 16 - 02:01 PM (#3827632) Subject: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Seats booked!! |
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20 Dec 16 - 02:05 PM (#3827636) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Banjo-Flower Port Arthur?? Gerry |
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20 Dec 16 - 02:11 PM (#3827639) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: keberoxu You mean the Peter Bellamy piece? When? Where? |
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20 Dec 16 - 04:01 PM (#3827656) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs The Transports 2017 |
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21 Dec 16 - 04:44 AM (#3827715) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST Also booked for Milton Keynes! |
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21 Dec 16 - 06:21 AM (#3827729) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: selby I believe it is also on in the summer ar Shrewsbury's festival Keith |
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21 Dec 16 - 07:40 AM (#3827740) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Weasel It's playing at the Met in Bury on 28th January Weasel |
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21 Dec 16 - 04:25 PM (#3827837) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: severed-head I'll be at the show at Cecil Sharp House. Should be great! Garry |
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03 Jan 17 - 03:14 PM (#3830223) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,S Byers Not being well advertised outside the folk scene, not even within it. SB |
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03 Jan 17 - 05:45 PM (#3830254) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Joe_F Oh. *That* Cambridge. |
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03 Jan 17 - 06:06 PM (#3830257) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: The Sandman I think it would be a wonderful idea if any money made from Transports was donated to The Samaritans, if that happens already, please accept my apologies. |
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03 Jan 17 - 11:19 PM (#3830297) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,ChrisJBrady A better charity would be the Child Migrants Trust for the thousands of orphaned children forcibly shipped out to Australia for farm fodder by the British Government, during the 20th c. (and before). http://www.childmigrantstrust.com/our-work/child-migration-history |
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04 Jan 17 - 07:23 AM (#3830343) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: John Routledge Will be very interesting to see how the updating works.There is a full house at Bury so a stimulating evening is assured. |
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04 Jan 17 - 08:10 AM (#3830350) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,Guest I am amazed that this is the first mention I have seen of this. Can only wish them the best of luck with it. |
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04 Jan 17 - 09:54 AM (#3830374) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Joe Nicholson I have booked seats at The Sage |
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04 Jan 17 - 12:14 PM (#3830408) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST "Not being well advertised outside the folk scene, not even within it. SB " I don't know about outside of the folk scene but plenty of publicity within it down here including a two page interview in Folk London. Where are you located? |
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04 Jan 17 - 10:00 PM (#3830510) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,SB I'm located in London. What is Folk London? Nothing in (free) Timeout London either. Metro? Evening Standard? Community radio stations? Southbank programme? Only heard about the show on Mudcat - but not how to get tickets. Is there a list of venues anywhere; and ticket prices? Website? |
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05 Jan 17 - 03:32 AM (#3830515) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Michael The Transports 2017 |
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05 Jan 17 - 04:07 AM (#3830522) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST If you go to The Young 'Uns website there is a list of dates/venues Folk London is a folk magazine that you can get from various venues or you can get it posted out to you |
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05 Jan 17 - 04:17 AM (#3830527) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: severed-head Folk London |
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05 Jan 17 - 11:59 AM (#3830600) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,CJB See the Cecil Sharp House event is £22 for a 2 hour show - less if there's a mid-show interval. That's pricey. |
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05 Jan 17 - 02:49 PM (#3830629) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey Guest,SB The Cecil Sharp ticket page is : https://uk.patronbase.com/_CecilSharpHouse/Productions/21/Performances Ents24 seems to be used quite a bit by the busier bands. I use their 'alerts'/'track' button and I don't get bothered with any extra spammy stuff. get alerts for a venue e.g. https://www.ents24.com/london-events/cecil-sharp-house or get alerts for an artist e.g. https://www.ents24.com/uk/tour-dates/the-young-uns or see 'folk' in London https://www.ents24.com/whatson/search/genre/celtic%2Cfolk/near/London/radius/10/order/date |
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05 Jan 17 - 03:36 PM (#3830634) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Richard Mellish When I see things like "Award-winning record producer Andy Bell will be the sound engineer for the production" I start to worry whether it will be deafeningly loud. I had to walk out of one production last year in (of all places!) the Sam Wanamaker Playhouse: a representation of a Jacobean theatre, with lighting only by candles, yet amplified sound. |
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07 Jan 17 - 10:55 AM (#3830918) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs The trick is to set record level at no more than 50% at the start to allow for such inevitable increases in volume through the gig, that normally avoids any overloading of the recorder's mic preamps, which sounds terrible when using a modern digital recorder! |
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11 Jan 17 - 01:48 PM (#3831945) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST Show starts in 12 minutes time at 7pm GMT!! Discussing The Transports on the Folk Show! |
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12 Jan 17 - 07:19 AM (#3832032) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: The Sandman "Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,ChrisJBrady - PM Date: 03 Jan 17 - 11:19 PM A better charity would be the Child Migrants Trust for the thousands of orphaned children forcibly shipped out to Australia for farm fodder by the British Government, during the 20th c. (and before). http://www.childmigrantstrust.com/our-work/child-migration-history" possibly,but you seem to have missed my point, Peter Bellamy, who composed the Transports committed suicide, the Samaritans are there to help suicidal people, with their help Peter MIGHT STILL BE WITH US TODAY |
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12 Jan 17 - 11:56 AM (#3832112) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,ChrisJBrady Point taken .... Iam sorting out loads of Beeb programmes about Peter - I'd forgotten his sad passing. To me he is still alive with his singing 'ear-worming' around in my head. |
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12 Jan 17 - 06:54 PM (#3832194) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey re: charities They seem to have some contacts with local refugee support groups. Maybe they'll have some sort of exit collection. There are some links here on their "Parallel Lives" page : http://www.thetransportsproduction.co.uk/parallel-lives/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Matthew Crampton (the narrator) has written a book and show Human Cargo. Info and interesting short video about it here http://humancargo.co.uk/m.home.html & SoundCloud link to him with The London Lubbers in the show https://m.soundcloud.com/user-919240888/human-cargo-summary-of-the-show |
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13 Jan 17 - 05:24 AM (#3832265) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST "I think it would be a wonderful idea if any money made from Transports was donated to The Samaritans, if that happens already, please accept my apologies." I wonder if, in fact, it will make any money, after all the performers must be paid and such a project will require not an inconsiderable amount of rehearsal time, to say nothing of venue hire, agents' fees, and I would imagine a lawyer and accountant are needed for contractual and financial matters. One can always ask one of the performers on the merch table. I got the impression from Paul Sartin that a recording will be done, and the one rehearsal recording aired on the Folk Show sounded very good indeed - despite my dear wife insisting that the ladies should have been higher in the mix!!! |
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13 Jan 17 - 06:52 AM (#3832294) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Guest post at 05:24 AM was me, unaware that I was not logged in! |
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16 Jan 17 - 02:18 PM (#3833007) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Noreen Listen to Front Row, BBC Radio 4 right now- talking about this new Transports production, with sound clips and interviews! |
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16 Jan 17 - 02:21 PM (#3833008) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Noreen Front Row: Jackie, The Transports, TS Eliot Prize, 'Yellowface' row The Transports is a ballad opera telling the true story of two convicts who fell in love in prison as they were waiting to be sent on the First Fleet to Australia. They had a child, were cruelly separated, but thanks to a kind gaoler, were eventually united. It was recorded in 1977 by giants of the folk world - June Tabor, Nic Jones, Martin Carthy, Norma Waterson. 40 years on a new generation of folk stars - Nancy Kerr, Faustus, the Young'Uns - are touring their new production. Samira meets them as they rehearse and finds The Transports has plenty to say about exile and migration today. |
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16 Jan 17 - 06:15 PM (#3833039) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST Meanwhile here is Folk on 2 with Jim Lloyd about the original The Transports ... http://www.mediafire.com/file/9bnd8aizlbq9vv4/Folk_on_2_-_The_Transports_-_1987.mp3 |
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17 Jan 17 - 01:12 PM (#3833194) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST I'D TRANSPORT THE LOT OF THEM TO AUSTRALIA AND THE SOONER THE BETTER- NOWT TO DO WITH FOLK MUSIC, IT'S SHOWBIZ |
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17 Jan 17 - 03:01 PM (#3833211) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Michael Tradition has it that one usually reserves judgement until one has actually seen/heard it. |
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17 Jan 17 - 04:01 PM (#3833218) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Well it sounds pretty good to me, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing the production! |
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18 Jan 17 - 04:31 AM (#3833303) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,SB rActually two years ago a visiting school from Australia performed their own version of The Transports on a tour around the UK. I saw them at Victoria Gardens on The Embankment in London. There was a storm brewing and the sound effects from the boats on the Thames and the thunder kind of emphasised the ambiance of their theatre. Likely most of the kids came from migrant families - that is they had direct connections with Australia's social history. Whereas I doubt very much whether those involved with the current Transports show have many (if any) links to anything to do with emigration. I also agree that the current Transports is 'showbiz.' Bellemey's more authentic contribution to the folk scene must surely be his Maritime Suite - alas still unissued and largely ignored. Ditto his Kipling Ballads. |
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18 Jan 17 - 01:59 PM (#3833400) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Jesus Christ - the whingers are never satisfied, in fact Nancy Kerr said that her husband (James Fagan) is "a direct descendant from this period". Doubters should listen to the BBC Radio 4 programme mentioned above, for full explanation of the thought behind the project |
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18 Jan 17 - 02:33 PM (#3833407) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST hello Bonzo- think I may be a 'descendant from that period' as well, otherwise I wouldn't be here ?? peter Bellamy may have been a lovely fella, but his voice bore little relation to any traditional singer I've ever heard, live or recorded, and I couldn't listen to it then or now... |
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18 Jan 17 - 04:05 PM (#3833425) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Michael Peter's voice is only relevant to the 1977 version.Whether he was a 'lovely fella' or not is irrelevant: It has no bearing on the current production. Peter wrote The Transports and for that he should be lauded; Wikipedia (I know; see other thread) says 'it is often cited as Bellamy's greatest achievement'. A new version is now being performed, and that's what this thread is about. See it, hear it, then judge. Mike |
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18 Jan 17 - 04:12 PM (#3833427) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey Thanks for the link... Noreen - PM Date: 16 Jan 17 - 02:21 PM Front Row: Jackie, The Transports, TS Eliot Prize, 'Yellowface' row Transports starts~14:20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ! Ha! : GUEST Date: 17 Jan 17 - 01:12 PM I'D TRANSPORT THE LOT OF THEM TO AUSTRALIA.... You could get this thread going again thread.cfm?threadid=85697 |
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20 Jan 17 - 03:15 AM (#3833648) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs "A new version is now being performed, and that's what this thread is about. See it, hear it, then judge." Well said!!! |
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20 Jan 17 - 04:28 AM (#3833657) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST It's just showbiz- tickets at £22!- might be a good idea about it all going to charity but think there's little chance of that- folkies have a living to make- ie showbiz |
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20 Jan 17 - 04:45 AM (#3833661) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Mr Red Nothing within 2 hours of me, yet. Added a link to the Folk Radio page on his Wiki entry - bit more publicity for them. (if it sticks) |
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21 Jan 17 - 05:24 AM (#3833834) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Presumably it will be recorded officially (get your mics and recorders ready!!!), I wonder if it will be filmed for TV or similar? I do hope so. |
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21 Jan 17 - 10:44 AM (#3833881) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Speedwell I too am looking forward to seeing the production in Cambridge next week. I think it's a fitting tribute to Peter's talent that his folk ballad-opera is still out there on tour.I hear from the radio programme that it has been added to and given a present day relevance which seems in keeping with the folk process. As well as being an historical awareness-raiser concerning the plight of 18th century transportees I hope it will also bring younger folk enthusiasts to know the work of a much missed Bellamy.Show business perhaps but show business with a folk music aspect to it and that's not so often seen.I agree with Good Soldier Schweik that a Samaritans collection would be a good idea; for the reasons already outlined. |
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21 Jan 17 - 11:19 AM (#3833883) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Ah yes, a collection would be very good, but to think that the performers should play for free doesn't bear thinking about. |
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21 Jan 17 - 11:40 AM (#3833887) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey ? The Mr Red wiki link above goes to an 'edit' page, was that intended ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wikipedia page for The Transports : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transports |
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21 Jan 17 - 12:18 PM (#3833895) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Musn't forget to fix bonzofessional mics to a clean shirt !!!!!!!!! |
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21 Jan 17 - 01:59 PM (#3833908) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs A clean dark shirt of course with collar button hole for 100% stealth - infinitely more so than mics fitted to glasses with a croakie!!! |
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22 Jan 17 - 11:58 AM (#3834097) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs "I believe it is also on in the summer at Shrewsbury's festival" Good, so good quality audio & video will be available!!! |
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22 Jan 17 - 12:17 PM (#3834099) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Mr Red Peter Bellamy's wiki entry Obviously I hadn't logged out before I came back to Mudcat. |
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22 Jan 17 - 02:54 PM (#3834128) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey from a recent email "The tour's largely sold-out, but there are still a few tickets at Cambridge this Tuesday 24th Jan, Glasgow on 25th, Sage Gateshead 26th (very few), Milton Keynes 31st, Crawley 1st Feb and Shoreham-by-Sea 3rd Feb" "I'll be performing Human Cargo with The London Lubbers near Brighton on 2nd March. The lovely Robb Johnson's asked us to perform at his Railway Roots club at The Railway Inn, Portslade. We're looking to set up other Human Cargo dates for the Spring." |
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22 Jan 17 - 03:30 PM (#3834133) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: keberoxu should "Human Cargo" have its own thread? |
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22 Jan 17 - 05:43 PM (#3834168) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey Thanks keberoxu, I hadn't looked "Human Cargo" thread.cfm?threadid=159702 |
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24 Jan 17 - 05:27 PM (#3834622) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs More info re 2017 production of The Transports |
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25 Jan 17 - 11:57 AM (#3834775) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Speedwell A fine first performance last night to a full house. Matthew Crampton's role of narrator worked very well I thought. It's good to see a folk performance bringing in so many people. Good luck with the rest of the tour guys. |
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25 Jan 17 - 01:13 PM (#3834794) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey Thanks b3l & Speedwell. I'm looking forward to it. |
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25 Jan 17 - 05:18 PM (#3834861) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs So are we! |
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25 Jan 17 - 08:52 PM (#3834896) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Tattie Bogle Also good reports on Facebook from those who saw it at Glasgow's Celtic Connections this last night |
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26 Jan 17 - 06:38 AM (#3834955) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey On a FB shout someone mentioned the lack of cast info at the venue(idk if they could have bought a programme) folkradio.co.uk gives this as The Cast Henry Cabell: SEAN COONEY (The Young'uns) Susannah Holmes: RACHAEL MCSHANE (Bellowhead) The Father: PAUL SARTIN (Faustus/Belshazzar's Feast/Bellowhead) The Mother: NANCY KERR The Narrator: MATTHEW CRAMPTON The Turnkey: GREG RUSSELL Abe Carman: DAVID EAGLE (The Young'uns) The Shantyman: SAUL ROSE (Faustus/Waterson: Carthy/Whapweasel) The Jailer: BENJI KIRKPATRICK (Faustus/Bellowhead) The Coachman: MICHAEL HUGHES (The Young'uns) http://www.folkradio.co.uk/2017/01/documentary-the-transports/ |
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26 Jan 17 - 12:23 PM (#3835019) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Speedwell Thanx for the cast info. I managed to acquire a poster from the venue - strictly above board of course. Also on the merchandising side of life - I would definitely have bought a teeshirt if there had been any (profits to charity perhaps). But hey it's really all about the show and the music (and Peter of course). It was a good opportunity to publicise the work of local refugee and migrant organisations and good to see that happening. |
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27 Jan 17 - 11:08 AM (#3835182) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Speedwell Good review in Guardian. Excellent. |
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27 Jan 17 - 11:37 AM (#3835189) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey " Comic turns and a happy ending … ... without a single weak link or sub-standard number, this truly is a transport of delight. " Alfred Hickling Friday 27 January 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/27/transports-review-sage-gateshead-botany-bay-convicts-peter-bellamy-ballad-opera-younguns-nancy-kerr-faustus |
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27 Jan 17 - 05:59 PM (#3835254) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey Good tonight in Buxton. I'm not sure that we heard all the original songs? I've a bad memory for that sort of thing. Not Showbiz but yes, Richard Mellish ( 05 Jan 17 - ) , louder than I needed. Good clear diction from all of them and good sound so I'm not sure why they needed such volume. Using one earplug made it bearable and clear enough. The unaccompanied songs were lovely. Matthew Crampton's narration worked really well. ~~~~~~~~~~~ It might be worth taking the old track list Track listing (original release Overture (5:39) Ballad of Henry & Susannah, Pt. 1 (1:02) Us Poor Fellows (5:14) Robber's Song (2:50) Ballad of Henry & Susannah, Pt. 2 (2:16) Leaves in the Woodland (4:52) Ballad of Henry & Susannah, Pt. 3 (2:34) I Once Lived in Service (4:50) Norwich Gaol (4:45) Sweet Loving Friendship (3:43) Ballad of Henry & Susannah, Pt. 4 (2:57) Black and Bitter Night (7:10) Humane Turnkey (1) (1:49) Plymouth Mail (4:25) Humane Turnkey (2) (1:07) Green Fields of England (4:27) Roll Down (2:20) Still and Silent Ocean (5:32) Ballad of Henry & Susannah, Pt. 5 (4:24) Convict's Wedding (3:23) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transports#Track_listing_.28original_release.29 |
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27 Jan 17 - 06:39 PM (#3835258) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST I had long been looking forward to hearing this then suddenly got landed with work! Ah well, maybe another time. Weasel |
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28 Jan 17 - 12:15 PM (#3835335) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Loud - excellent, record level at no more than 33%!!! |
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29 Jan 17 - 08:06 AM (#3835478) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Many extremely favourable comments on Twitter regarding the show's excellence!! |
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02 Feb 17 - 01:46 PM (#3836327) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Superb performance at The Hawth in Crawley last night, looking forward to possible CD. Sound level was just right (too loud indeed!!!) |
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03 Feb 17 - 03:49 AM (#3836426) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: severed-head Fabulous show at Cecil Sharp House last night. |
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03 Feb 17 - 09:56 AM (#3836478) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST "Many extremely favourable comments on Twitter regarding the show's excellence!! " Hope there is nothing important in my Twitter timeline at the moment as it is totally swamped by justifiable praise for The Transports. |
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03 Feb 17 - 12:30 PM (#3836511) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST,henryp My wife bought the original LP after a concert by Peter Bellamy. It was the only copy he sold. On the cover, he wrote QANTAS on the bow of the hulk, and added; "To Freda, Thank you for making my night!" We thought the message was humorous, and didn't realise how desperate he was beginning to feel. I wish he could read all these compliments today. |
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03 Feb 17 - 04:17 PM (#3836555) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Fortunately the theatre only requested no photography!! |
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03 Feb 17 - 08:42 PM (#3836582) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Noreen Are you implying you recorded it, Bonzo? |
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04 Feb 17 - 04:30 AM (#3836613) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs I wish I had taken photos without flash which would not disturb the performers. |
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05 Feb 17 - 12:32 PM (#3836924) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Bonzo3legs Now listed for the Shrewsbury Folk Festival!!! |
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06 Feb 17 - 07:00 PM (#3837189) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: Piff I was lucky enough to see a production at the Hastings International Folk Festival back in 1987. My 5 year old daughter thought it was a "turkey" that rang his bell! Peter Bellamy was there in person, and it was wonderful - just as good as the studio recording. I always found the record - marvellous though it was in most respects - was spoiled by the Watersons' rendition of "Sweet Loving Friendship" which should be a tender love song, but they just charge through it with no soul or feeling at all. It just sounds as though they were using the song for practising their close-harmony work. Anyway, never mind that now - the work is alive and well, thank goodness. |
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30 Dec 17 - 06:21 AM (#3896426) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST See BBC radio 3 on 10 Jan 2018. |
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30 Dec 17 - 12:45 PM (#3896496) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey thanks guest, I'd forgotten that was coming up. I put a link now on another thread "radio 3" : > /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=162431&messages=22#3896491 |
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01 Jan 18 - 04:27 PM (#3896811) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: GUEST Tour begins next Wednesday! |
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01 Jan 18 - 06:51 PM (#3896825) Subject: RE: The Transports 2017! From: FreddyHeadey I see my link above is wrong(I'll blame the current blickifier) This should be better, programme details there. & 2018 tour dates in that thread https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=162431&messages=22#3896491 |