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25 Jul 17 - 09:29 AM (#3868203) Subject: BS: The Twitler Youth? From: Greg F. Check THIS out! Bizarre, touching upon the surreal. Reminds one of the '30s in Germany..... |
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25 Jul 17 - 09:57 AM (#3868213) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? From: gillymor Well, he certainly earned his merit badge for horseshit slinging. Note Secretary "2 out of 3" in the background looking professorial in his spectacles. |
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25 Jul 17 - 10:24 AM (#3868216) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? From: meself "Drunk Street-Thug Hogs Microphone at Boy-Scout Jamboree" - Parents Outraged at Lack of Security - Children Traumatized - Scout Leaders Embarrassed & Furious - Eagle Scout Quits in Disgust ..... |
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25 Jul 17 - 01:30 PM (#3868249) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? From: Thompson Eh what? |
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25 Jul 17 - 02:41 PM (#3868259) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Joe Offer Here's another article about Trump's address at the Boy Scout Jamboree: You'd think that for once, the President could rise above politics and give a speech that would be inspiring to the kids, so they could remember for the rest of their lives that they saw the President of the United States. Trump should be ashamed for spewing his usual buffoonery on the Boy Scouts - and the Boy Scouts should be ashamed for inviting him to do this. I was registered in the Scouts as a youth and as a leader for about thirty years. In the 1990s, the Scouts began to look like a wing of the Republican Party, and I got out. Barack Obama gave this video address to the 2010 National Scout Jamboree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWNyp_-2D78 Here's Trump's speech to the 2017 Jamboree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWfg4ZtmS5g -Joe- |
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25 Jul 17 - 02:52 PM (#3868263) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: John P Why in the world would anyone expect appropriate behavior from Trump? The fault here isn't with Trump -- everyone knows who and what he is and knows what to expect from him. The fault is with the Boy Scouts for being irresponsible enough to invite him. |
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25 Jul 17 - 03:29 PM (#3868265) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself Poor chump never got to be a Boy Scout (or a soldier, for that matter) - that must explain why he is such a shameless, selfish boor. |
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25 Jul 17 - 04:40 PM (#3868272) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Joe Offer The Boy Scouts disavowed partisanship in their invitation to Trump to give a speech at their National Jamboree:Here's their full statement:
As I expected, National Public Radio had a good piece on Trump's Boy Scout Travesty: ...and a satirical piece from the New Yorker about the Girl Scouts and Trump: I gotta say one thing about Trump: with him around, there's never a dull moment. I've heard the same thing about two-year-olds and puppies. -Joe- |
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25 Jul 17 - 06:08 PM (#3868290) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel I am glad you do not consider satire fake news. The boy scouts have always had a vague relationship with the Army. the call for loyalty as something we need more of, was sickening. The Democrats still have no use for the psychoneural linguistic link to emotion that reaches the folks who are fooled most or all the time. Their new slogan; A better DEAL ! weak |
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25 Jul 17 - 06:12 PM (#3868292) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. How could the Scouts exercise prior restraint, Joe? However now that its 'out there", if the Scouts don't officially repudiate Trump's bullshit, its apparent that they have become The New Republican Hitler Youth. National had better review the Scout Oath & Law & remember what they once meant. (GTF- Former Scout, Scout Leader and Explorer Leader who jumped ship about the same time as Joe.) |
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25 Jul 17 - 06:38 PM (#3868301) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Joe Offer You're probably right, Greg. I think there has been a standing invitation for the President to speak for as long as there have been National Jamborees. FDR attended the first National Jamboree in 1937. It had been scheduled to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Scouting in 1935, but had to be postponed because of an outbreak of polio. My brother-in-law and my nephews went to at least one Jamboree, but I never got the chance. -Joe- |
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26 Jul 17 - 04:10 AM (#3868339) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu Quite incredible that this man is running a country, his narcissism knows no bounds. |
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26 Jul 17 - 04:14 AM (#3868340) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: akenaton The Scouts seemed to be very impressed by President Donal John. Perhaps the US youth has become tired of establishment politics, of being talked down to, having their faith and patriotism mocked. Young folks need inspiration, that is how change is achieved, not through bloody revolution. Establishment politicians have nothing to inspire people with, their ideology....if you can call it that, has failed the latest generation miserably. Evolution is coming whether we like it or not and Party Political labels are no longer enough to keep us divided. |
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26 Jul 17 - 04:49 AM (#3868344) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu Now he's confirmed the existence of covert CIA actions in Syria ON TWITTER. Amazing. |
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26 Jul 17 - 07:37 AM (#3868367) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor I can't imagine the kind of parent who'd hold up Trump as a role model to their children. The 29 most cringe-worthy lines from Donald Trump's hyper-political speech to t by Chris Cillizza Donal Jerk is not unhinged, he's hingeless. |
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26 Jul 17 - 10:05 AM (#3868384) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. So Ake, you think a deranged, malignant narcissist who lies every time he opens his mouth; who routinely stabs his friends in the back; a sexual predator guilty of multiple sexuual assaults; a crook who has stiffed his creditors, emplotees, and contractors over the course of several decades, a man who thinks if you can't afford health insurance you should crawl off quietly and die; who continues & expands an idiotic war in which mostly young people die; who is privatizing ublic schools so that only the wealthy will have acceas to decent education..... I could go on but I won't..... IS A PROPER ROLE MODEL AND INSPIRATION FOR U.S. YOUTH? You're almost as deranged as The Trumpshit. Sad. |
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26 Jul 17 - 10:30 AM (#3868392) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself That's what I just don't get about the trump-worshippers. I could, to a degree, understand if someone were to say, "Yes, he says some whacked-out, crazy things, tells some whoppers, and his behaviour seems bizarre at times - but I think he's the man to get things done." But instead, we get, "He's definitely the man to get things done, and furthermore, everything he says makes sense and is truthful, and his behaviour is admirable." I don't know if the blind devotion to this loud-mouthed cretin is beyond human understanding - but it's certainly beyond this human's understanding. |
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26 Jul 17 - 10:35 AM (#3868394) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. Heil Trump! USA! USA! USA! Evidence is steadily piling up that die-hard Trumpapologists are, inded, morons. |
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26 Jul 17 - 12:42 PM (#3868417) Subject: RE :^| Greg we are used to this shit From: Donuel We all have come to understand and expect hypocrisy from politicians We all know the unwritten law that the rich are above the law We all know our degree of liberty, freedom and a voice that is heard is based on income and wealth Like Jews to the showers we will all fall in line with the coming Trump wars, forfeitures, prison corporations and deportations. We will shrug our shoulders at every civil right lost and every sweet heart deal for the rich. Some of us like Greg will spit and kick dust. So what. The ruthless Republican Party knows about winning by any means and by any cost. We are already getting used to the crude ignorant demeanor of the President with internalized grins. About half the country will obey Trump if impeachment is called for. A call for a Loyal Civil War by Trump will be supported by the loyalist NRA, religious right, patriots, Bikers, the usual gang of idiots who do not vote or vote against self interests and last but not least, the military types who like head banging under the empowering security blanket that military laws and budget provide. |
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26 Jul 17 - 01:15 PM (#3868419) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Social DIVIDE and conquer by the actual owners of America is now complete. Look at the current market speculations. The smart money (the owners money) is over 21,000 NYSE When Trump no longer does the bidding for the owners of government, real estate and global financial holdings, then and only then will you be able to pay your final respects, debts and regrets to President Donald J. Trump Sr. |
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26 Jul 17 - 03:14 PM (#3868440) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. So What? Hey Don- leave me out of your rants, OK? Thanks. |
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26 Jul 17 - 05:34 PM (#3868452) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Greg is a fairly good egg no shoulder shrugger is he Maybe I pulled his left leg. He knows united we're free Don't think you're not respected Truth is rarely expected Greg may write the great songs That may right all the wrongs Its funny how things are connected. |
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26 Jul 17 - 07:03 PM (#3868460) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Unlike Akenaten, I believe Trump is desperate for blood shed. American kids are different than Akenaten imagines. But there are differences. Virginia kids are even different from Maryland kids West Virginia kids are different than California kids. Overall politicizing kids is an evil endeavor Akenaten. |
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26 Jul 17 - 07:24 PM (#3868462) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Joe Offer Ake says: The Scouts seemed to be very impressed by President Donal John. Perhaps the US youth has become tired of establishment politics, of being talked down to, having their faith and patriotism mocked. Yes, Ake, I have to admit that the Boy Scouts sounded alarmingly like a Trump campaign rally. That's one of the reasons I left the Scouts in the 1990s. It was becoming politicized, and I found that my political views were not welcome. There are still many Scout troops that don't get into that political stuff, but too many of them do. Here in the Western U.S., the Mormons wield a huge amount of influence in the Boy Scouts. They are very generous and contribute a lot of time and money, but their overwhelming numbers and their overwhelming conservatism got to be too much for me. Look back at what Presidents from both parties said to the Boy Scouts when they addressed National Jamborees - they all expressed high ideals and told inspiring stories. Reading those speeches, one can't tell whether the President giving them was Democrat or Republican. Even sleazy Presidents like Clinton and Nixon set politics and sleaze aside when they addressed the Boy Scouts. But not Trump. This wasn't values Trump was talking - it was plain, pure, partisan politics. And there were too many things Trump said that went beyond politics into what is just poor taste. The man is a boor. -Joe Offer- |
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26 Jul 17 - 08:12 PM (#3868468) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. Joe, if youre trying to educate Ake as to the realities of this world, you're on a fools errand. And Trump is way beyond a boor- he's a deranged and dangerous asshole. |
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26 Jul 17 - 08:38 PM (#3868469) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel If Ake is authentic, A case in point regarding the divide and conquer strategy against American culture is the trump announcement that all Transgender members of the armed forces are to be eliminated and discharged. In the imagined world of military trans gender troops pitted to the death against civilian Culture Warriors I envision a very short battle. Somehow this brouhaha has brought to light that the armed services take 41 million dollars worth of Viagra a year. "This is my rifle this is my gun Which takes Viagra and which is more fun?" |
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26 Jul 17 - 08:38 PM (#3868470) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself Just saw Bob Gandolf interviewed on CBC. He said that some years back he had dinner with the dumpster, shortly after one of his bankruptcies. Dump spent the entire time talking about how he was planning to destroy the lives of several people who had refused to give him money. Gandolf: "I think it's important that people realize what kind of a vindictive person Trump is." He had a few more things to say about dump, none of them good. |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:28 AM (#3868496) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: akenaton Joe, politics is a grubby business any attempt to change the political establishment(the rump of the Republican and Democratic Parties) will be unmercifully attacked by the mainstream media. The President seems to have the common touch, something I see in most Americans, He speaks to those who have traditionally no political voice, a voice which is owned by the political and social elite and no change can be achieved till that voice is shared. Any Socialist who tried to change the US political system would be treated exactly the same or perhaps worse than Donal John. Its called divide and rule....any move towards détente with traditional "enemies" like Russia or China would cause a media storm. Do you not think the media would brand him "Red Bernie" rake through his background for any ties to Communism.....if they could not find any they would construct their own. Everything in this world is to a degree politicised....you should try listening to the "completely unbiased" BBC Overseas service. |
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27 Jul 17 - 03:09 AM (#3868502) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel I can agree on two points only Ake. Common touch does apply but Donald is not a deep well of simple country wisdom that could put a post doc to shame. He shares common hatreds, which some may argue are stronger than common loves. Everything can be politicized. But should it be? In Saudi Arabia everything is religionized, but should it be. |
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27 Jul 17 - 03:25 AM (#3868510) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Thompson Getting them to scream "NO!" when he asked if Obama had ever visited the Boy Scouts was interesting (did Obama visit?) Poor lad still obsessed with Obama even though he's now president. Poor America. |
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27 Jul 17 - 03:28 AM (#3868511) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Joe Offer Donuel, I think you've explained the secret of Trump's success: "He shares common hatreds, which some may argue are stronger than common loves." But why does he have to spew that hatred on Boy Scouts? -Joe- |
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27 Jul 17 - 04:00 AM (#3868519) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel We both know why but Greg will give you the most succinct Third Reichian answer in his initial post. I don't think Trump envisions growing a new crop of SS troops or because of Trumps conviction to Nazi ideology but due to the fascist friendly, clever and complimentary Bannon voice in his ear. I could be wrong as they say the greatest feat of the devil was to convince people that there is no devil. - so to speak. |
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27 Jul 17 - 05:10 AM (#3868543) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu >i>"a voice which is owned by the political and social elite and no change can be achieved till that voice is shared>" Hi IS the elite. He's a mega-rich uber-capitalist from a privileged background that has ZERO idea what it is like for the ordinary folk and apparently cares less. Any idiot with pots of cash stand up and tell people what they want to hear, and Trump sure is an idiot. Trump and Brexit. The world of stupid is here to stay. |
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27 Jul 17 - 05:52 AM (#3868551) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle i don't really see the connection between Trump and Brexit. i voted for Brexit - i can't really see why anyone from north of Watford or from a fishing community (and that used to be the entire coast of England) would vote for anything else. The thread though is about Trump and this speech to the scouts. Scouting has changed a lot over the years. In the years I was a cub , it was all about granny knots and dib dib dob! what a strange speech to give to young people! all about people , no ones ever heard of...it was more like a drunk, stood at the bar rambling on about all kinds of bollocks. what a lousy experience for young people...probably their first experience of meeting a great important politician. |
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27 Jul 17 - 06:40 AM (#3868559) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu The connection is simple, people are told their voice is not being heard and so demagogues step in with false promises and lies and play to the fears of folk in both cases focussing immigration and "making America great again" or "taking back control"; in the UK this was basically the will of a few expat media moguls and an establishment that wishes to ensure full control of all the home nations is kept securely within the corridors of Whitehall, in the US within Trump Tower. Here int he UK immigration isn't going down any time soon and the delusion that England is ever going to regain the glories of it's imperial past are rather pathetic and sad, based on a vision of a era that doesn't and never did exist. The real issues that have left people feeling marginalised are not going to be addressed by Brexit or Trump, these problems are the fault of previous and successive governments and nothing to do with Europe; the tories imposed austerity and actively encouraged wage stagnation and pay inequality and are not addressing it now, and I'll bet a penny to a pound the workers of the rustbelt see zero improvement in their quality of life any time soon. Trump and Brexit remove any hope for the future of our countries, their future is a bleak, semi-authoritarian world of divisiveness and hate. The US has lost it's credibility abroad, everyone thinks Trump is a dangerous, ignorant and unpleasant ape, the UK is going to go from being world leaders in science and tech working closely with our European allies to becoming a obsequious poodle of the sort of states no-one with an ounce of moral integrity wants to deal with at all; I guess if johnny foreigner is suffering and we can make a few bob who gives a shit? Not 52% of the UK it appears, who seem happy to settle for a devalued Poundland society. You think our fishing communities are suddenly going to start hauling in record catches? Our farmers are going to replace the migrant workers that pick our food with the old white people that voted to keep them out? Will the steel workers of Pennsylvania suddenly be firing up the furnaces again? Watch in five years time as the Brexiteers and Trumpers moan that their lot hasn't improved, that our countries are diminished in the eyes the world due to their idiotic xenophobia and mistake belief in their inherent superiority over everyone else. Brexit and Trump are two side of the same coin, and neither are the way forward. They are lies and liars have convinced the people their won suffering is in their best interest. Amazing. |
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27 Jul 17 - 07:11 AM (#3868563) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle no our fishing communities aren't going to haul in record catches - but they might be fished responsibly. Brexit is not about regaining past glories. Its about bringing to heel forces in our community which are beyond our control whilst we are in the EU. Brexiters are not expecting our lot to improve overnight. WE want to subsidise our industries in a way that has been labelled 'unfair competition' for forty years. The french and Germans somehow subsidise their industry (how else would Skoda become a market leader?). Just because we're so dumb we obey laws that they ignore is a bloody good reason to exit the EU. We have not been conned by demagogues - you have. The demagogues you stand in awe of are the economists who brought us monetarism and fucked the industrial base of the country. However my sincerely held beliefs are nothing to do with you. You have no right to ridicule them - particularly on a thread that is to do with this speech, and sod all to with Brexit. Although it seems to attract people with a pathological need to insult. |
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27 Jul 17 - 07:39 AM (#3868568) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu I wasn't insulting you, you said you didn't see what the connection is between Trump and Brexit was, I offered my opinion. At the root core of both of their right-wing ideologies is divisiveness and xenophobia, blaming 'the other'. However the 'other' is not Poles, Asians, Mexicans or Syrian refugees, it's the hedge fund mangers, city wonks (Farage et al) and corporations paying no tax whilst our government s wreck our healthcare services and make us work until we fall over dead. No retirement fair many of us plebs! "Its about bringing to heel forces in our community which are beyond our control whilst we are in the EU." What forces? The democratically elected EU parliament? You don't have that control, you're never going to have it whilst Brexiters and Trumpers are in charge as they don't want us to have it. Why would they? They're sorted already, and that sort of wealth and power needs protecting from the mob. Best make the mob think you're on their side. These people don't believe in the common good at all, they are protecting their own interests and that of their global capitalist/establishment muckers, and the Trump and Brexit voters have given them a mandate to do so. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT US. "The demagogues you stand in awe of are the economists who brought us monetarism and fucked the industrial base of the country." Not true in the slightest. So far from the truth it's laughable. I'm not sure even to which 'demagogues' you're referring to... not the one who stirs hatred with his nasty posters of refugees, the one standing in front of bus lying through his over-privileged teeth or the one who blames Mexicans for his countries ills and hates LBGT people. "Although it seems to attract people with a pathological need to insult." Like I said, I was addressing your opinion not you personally; I'm talking about the leaders of Brexit and Trump's cronies, not the ordinary folk who voted for it for understandable reasons (though I believe they were lied to). All this is also directly relevant to Trump's appalling speech to the scouts; the current situations in the US and UK haven't arisen in isolation, they are part of a crisis threatening to engulf all of the 'western' powers as they struggle to deal with a world that is leaving them behind as their myopic leaders and press barons decide to look after themselves and to hell with everyone else. |
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27 Jul 17 - 08:41 AM (#3868585) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel I'm with Stu but Trump is the bigger catastrophe from my perspective. |
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27 Jul 17 - 11:59 AM (#3868641) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: akenaton Big Al is right on the button, the sore losers are still bleating, but Brexit has nothing to do with president Donal John. Globalism, bureaucracy greed, are a common denominator and a huge swathe of the electorate were sick of being ignored by media and the elite. They wanted their country back, wanted to make their own laws, have a say in who comes here and in what numbers. The "liberals" are running scared in America and in the UK. They don't give a flying fuck for the abandoned underclass, they are what they have always been, whining hypocrites. Just listen to them on here ...poverty they don't Know the meaning of the word......and if they did, they still wouldn't care. The only catastrophe is the attempt by the corrupt media, the self serving "liberals" and the political establishment to sabotage the democratically elected president of the USA and the result of the Brexit referendum. |
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27 Jul 17 - 12:23 PM (#3868645) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle whatever you say about him Ake. he's an odd cove. fuck knows how he got to be president. didn't anyone notice that he gives weird disjointed speeches like this one? and totally inappropriate to give to boy scouts... if you heard someone talking like this in the pub - you would guess they were at least mad. |
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27 Jul 17 - 12:29 PM (#3868647) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. They wanted their country back Wasn't aware it had gone anywhere. The "liberals" ... don't give a flying fuck for the abandoned underclass, And Trump and his billionaires do? Jesus wept. The only catastrophe is the attempt by the corrupt media, the self serving "liberals" and the political establishment to sabotage the democratically elected president of the USA You need to seek professional help and/or adust your meds. You get more delusional by the day. |
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27 Jul 17 - 12:39 PM (#3868652) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself "he's an odd cove" - That's about the most charitable description of that deranged hate-monger I've heard - except from his deranged, hate-mongering worshippers, of course. |
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27 Jul 17 - 12:43 PM (#3868655) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. Take a bow, Ake. |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:09 PM (#3868670) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle he is odd. very odd! he reminds me of Jimmy Saville. He looked odd in the same way. if you'd looked at Saville, you would have said, he's odd. |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:31 PM (#3868675) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: akenaton As far as I can see the "deranged hatemongers" on Mudcat are the "liberals" who hate everything which doesn't fit their ideology. How many threads for numpties have we had insulting, name calling and attempting to undermine your democratically elected president? Hatred oozes out of almost every post. You are all nuts, don't you realise that if you had the guts to ditch the dreadful Clinton person, you would in all probability have won the election....but you could not bear to leave the "shelter" of your comfort zone. As I said earlier, If you had somehow summoned up the courage and supported Bernie, you would have found that the political establishment and their tools in the media would have treated him just as badly as they do Donal John........You should all be ashamed of yourselves. |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:40 PM (#3868677) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu "he's an odd cove. fuck knows how he got to be president. " That we can agree on ;-) |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:43 PM (#3868680) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor The shame, and hopefully a special place in hell, is reserved for the morally challenged nitwits who support Donal Jerk. |
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27 Jul 17 - 02:52 PM (#3868682) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: akenaton "A special place in hell"? for exercising their democratic right to cast a vote? That is exactly what I mean about "liberal" hatred. |
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27 Jul 17 - 03:55 PM (#3868692) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: EBarnacle I suspect they voted "against" HRC rather than for DJT. His weirdness and meanness were evident to anyone who looked at what he said and did. If all votes were equal we would operate on majority rule rather than by Electoral College. A friend pointed out that the electoral college operated by proportional voting until about 1820, when the present formula came into being. |
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27 Jul 17 - 04:27 PM (#3868698) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor They may have been trying to avoid a Clinton presidency but they voted FOR a sociopath to accomplish it. Like I said, nitwits. |
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27 Jul 17 - 05:13 PM (#3868705) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. the morally challenged nitwits who support Donald Jerk Take a bow, Ake. |
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27 Jul 17 - 05:15 PM (#3868707) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle the democratic right to vote is an exercise of power. And with power comes responsibility. the people who voted for Thatcher did immense harm to this country. And yes they bear responsibility for what their voting produces. hells too good for them. they should spend eternity in a television room showing Big Brother. |
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27 Jul 17 - 07:44 PM (#3868730) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself Back to the Boy Scouts: on the positive side, the Dumpster announced in his speech that Americans are going to be allowed to say 'Merry Christmas' again. You knew Obama made it illegal to say Merry Christmas, right? The dumpster's making it legal again! Hip, hip, hooray!! |
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27 Jul 17 - 08:12 PM (#3868734) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. All part part of the long-standing Republican War On Reality, meself. Nowt new. |
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28 Jul 17 - 04:23 AM (#3868771) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Stu Wow. Scaramucci... the mentality of the White House seems to be that of one of those inarticulate groups of folk who spend the entire day outside Wetherspoons arguing, fighting and effing and jeffing loudly at each other as they sink into alcoholic oblivion, never having an actual conversation but constantly expelling a series of accusations and guttural snipes. Unpleasant. Meanwhile, on the other side of the transatlantic stupid bubble, ministers contradict each other on a daily basis about the Brexit fiasco. They seem to have zero idea what they want, less idea of how to go about getting it. Unbelievable. |
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28 Jul 17 - 06:21 AM (#3868795) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel The Pentagon has nicely announced that they will not follow orders by Tweet. They will instead follow correct chain of command orders. |
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28 Jul 17 - 07:14 AM (#3868801) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor Trump's America: Trump addresses Boy Scout Jamboree and 2 days later the head scout has to apologize for Donal Jerk's remarks. Vox |
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28 Jul 17 - 08:22 AM (#3868809) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle does anyone have any idea of what all that was about - the bit about the people at the cocktail party? was he pissed? |
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28 Jul 17 - 08:28 AM (#3868810) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor It might be of interest to those scouts trying to attain their martini-mixing merit badges. |
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28 Jul 17 - 08:33 AM (#3868812) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Big Al check out The Onion satire about Scaramoucci and you will know more than what TV and newspapers can not say that really was said. |
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28 Jul 17 - 08:54 AM (#3868815) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. was he pissed? No, he's just an asshole. |
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28 Jul 17 - 10:28 AM (#3868824) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Scaramoucci is Trump on meth and steroids. WHAT THE PRESS CAN NOT REPORT |
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28 Jul 17 - 01:07 PM (#3868858) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. No, Ake the Scouts have apologized for The Truimpshit's bullshit. But you still think a deranged, malignant narcissist who lies every time he opens his mouth; who routinely stabs his friends in the back; a sexual predator guilty of multiple sexuual assaults; a crook who has stiffed his creditors, emplotees, and contractors over the course of several decades, a man who thinks if you can't afford health insurance you should crawl off quietly and die; who continues & expands an idiotic war in which mostly young people die; who is privatizing ublic schools so that only the wealthy will have acceas to decent education..... I could go on but I won't..... IS A PROPER ROLE MODEL AND INSPIRATION FOR U.S. YOUTH? You're even more deranged than The Trumpshit. Sad. |
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28 Jul 17 - 06:55 PM (#3868901) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: gillymor Priebus out, Kelly in. They're going to have to install a revolving door on the West Wing. I can't imagine anyone with decency or integrity who'd want work in the den of (incompetent) vipers. Any one who does better have the jack for a good lawyer. |
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28 Jul 17 - 08:15 PM (#3868910) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: meself And in his latest speech, along with encouraging the police to abuse prisoners, he proclaimed that the 'human trafficking' - a term he seems to have just learned, incidentally - going on from Mexico into the USA is - surprise, surprise - on a scale greater than any human trafficking in human history. I guess that slave trade thing wasn't such a big deal .... |
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28 Jul 17 - 09:48 PM (#3868922) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel meself, The Trump immigration policy has inadvertently increased membership in the gang called MS13 because immigrants can not report the criminal activities to authorities who will deport them, be suspect of them and tear their families apart. The choice they are left is join or become the target of MS13. |
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28 Jul 17 - 10:19 PM (#3868925) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Donuel Homeland Security now has an opening for... Dan Savage? Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, Mark Levine, Alex Jones, Gordon Liddy, Michael Medved, Dennis Miller, Jared Kushner, Bill O'Reilly, Spider-Man, The Hulk, Iron Man, Supperman? |
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29 Jul 17 - 05:10 AM (#3868941) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle Perhaps you should open another thread Ake - explain what it is that so appeals to you about Trump. I'm fairly neutral on American politics. I don't know enough about it - and I can't understand the difference between all these Houses of Congress and House of Represntatives, not to mention Governors and State Governors, etc. But to even to a non partisan person like myself - he seems like a rat's arse. Ugly, nasty, prolix, incoherent, dishonest, abusive, very negative, and one of these phoney 'celebrities'. Point out what it is I and the rest of the mudcat gang have failed to appreciate. |
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29 Jul 17 - 09:53 AM (#3868966) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Greg F. Spot on, Big Al- but go easy on the rats. Any rat would be grievously insulted by being compared to Trump. |
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29 Jul 17 - 09:43 PM (#3869021) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: robomatic Big Al: American government is quite complicated in toto, but element by element it can be explained simply. Each of the United 'States' is a complete self-governing body with its own written Constitution, a complete governmental system and legal system. Each of these states sends delegates to the Federal Government which has powers given it beyond State powers according to the U.S. Constitution, such as powers to wage war and control inter-State commerce. Our U.S. House of Representatives is proportional representation, so that States with large populations have more votes than States with low populations. It is similar to the House of Commons. The Senate has two votes per State regardless of State size. It is like a House of Peers, only with power. A law can be initiated in either body but has to pass both bodies in similar language to go before the President, who can choose to sign it into law or veto it so it does not become law, or not sign it which means that after a set time it does not become law (pocket veto). Congress can over-ride a veto with a 3/4 majority in both the House and Senate. The House has primary power of the purse. The House and the Senate have feelings of rivalry but a Representative (House) has common interests with the Senator from his or her State. The Vice President of the United States is President of the Senate and has the power to decide a tie vote in the Senate (which happened Tuesday when Pence broke a tie to commence debate on the health care vote). I'm sure this has kindled in you a newfound interest in the American system of Government. ("who just said bollocks?") |
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30 Jul 17 - 02:21 AM (#3869034) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: DMcG In fact, robo, from a historical point of view, the whys and wherefores of how that system came into being are very interesting, and well worth reading about. There are number of unexpected twists and turns, such as the southern states insisting the slaves should be representing in the system, and the northern states wanting to exclude hem, which is the opposite of what you perhaps expect when you first hear of it. |
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30 Jul 17 - 01:35 PM (#3869098) Subject: RE: BS: The Twitler Youth? (Trump address to Scouts) From: Big Al Whittle its no wonder so few of you vote - thats really complicated. Trump has my new found respect for understanding that! |