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03 Oct 18 - 09:00 AM (#3954360) Subject: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel Trump now has the power to text every phone in America all at once for what he considers an emergency. We all remember how that worked in Hawaii. We also know his tweeting addiction. A policy under FEMA/HLS has this Presidential announcement system up and running. This not just a proposal but a fait d'complet. There are people who are suspicious of this move but we are ro see how it goes. We can not opt out. The politics of fear has reached a new high/low. |
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03 Oct 18 - 09:03 AM (#3954361) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel source: npr |
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03 Oct 18 - 09:20 AM (#3954364) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Jack Campin Maybe you can opt out... https://badsciencedebunked.com/2018/09/18/how-to-mostly-block-donald-trumps-emergency-text/ |
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03 Oct 18 - 09:23 AM (#3954366) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel well folks learned how to unlock phones too but who is going to edit Trump? |
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03 Oct 18 - 10:10 AM (#3954379) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel The presidential emergency text they promise is to be used only in a "real" emergency Until it isn't I always thought it was wierd that the Emergency Broadcast System was not used once on 9-11. |
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03 Oct 18 - 10:55 AM (#3954396) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Rapparee You can turn your phone off. |
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03 Oct 18 - 11:39 AM (#3954407) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Jack Campin Won't the message just come through when you turn it back on? Have they said what the time limit for retries is? |
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03 Oct 18 - 12:03 PM (#3954412) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Jos Phones are useful - but they are not compulsory. |
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03 Oct 18 - 02:27 PM (#3954476) Subject: BS: Presidential Alert From: Joe Offer At about 11:15 AM Pacific Time today, my cell phone started buzzing. A white box with the following message flashed on the screen:
My wife said, "Joe, is this 1984? Somehow, this does not make me feel more secure." My sentiments exactly. Here's the explanatory Tweet from FEMA: |
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03 Oct 18 - 02:28 PM (#3954477) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel It just now went online. On TV it is called Emergency Entry Point System. It Piggy backed on the EBS over riding all broadcast system. |
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03 Oct 18 - 05:50 PM (#3954536) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: ChanteyLass I rarely turn my phone on, so I imagine I'll find the text there when I do. |
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03 Oct 18 - 06:26 PM (#3954543) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel Actually the idea for this came from the FCC and was inspired by the Hawaii mistake. maybe :^/ |
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03 Oct 18 - 08:30 PM (#3954565) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Sandra in Sydney news report from Australia - Donald Trump's presidential alert reaches millions of Americans' phones |
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03 Oct 18 - 09:08 PM (#3954570) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Rapparee I didn't get one. |
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03 Oct 18 - 09:54 PM (#3954575) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts. From: Donuel Perhaps they don't reach underground to nuclear missile bases. |
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04 Oct 18 - 05:21 PM (#3954721) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: John P The real problem is that if Donald Trump sent a message saying we were under attack, no one would have any reason to believe him. |
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04 Oct 18 - 06:49 PM (#3954735) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: Donuel Who has he not attacked? Putin |
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04 Oct 18 - 08:58 PM (#3954755) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: Bee-dubya-ell Having a national emergency notification system - good. Having a presidential emergency notification system - bad. Half the people in the US will distrust any message from whomever is president. If the president is a Republican, Democrats will distrust his/her messages. If the president is a Democrat, Republicans will distrust his/her messages. A national emergency message needs to come from a trusted nonpolitical agency with an impeccable reputation. Of course, there hasn't been such a thing since the Office of Civil Defense was abolished and its responsibilities turned over to the anything but nonpolitical FEMA. |
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04 Oct 18 - 09:11 PM (#3954760) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: Rapparee I didn't get any message. I was either slighted or they want me dead, I guess. |
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04 Oct 18 - 09:24 PM (#3954764) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: beardedbruce So you blame Trump for the system that was created under Obama? Seems like typical Liberal bigotry to me. |
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05 Oct 18 - 03:37 AM (#3954784) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: Mr Red maybe it is not blame, but trust. When Obama tells you there is a national emergency you would believe. When Twitler tells you anything, it takes time to understand if he understands! Yea, Yea, it wouldn't be him. yea right! It would be his minions. But: 1) Describe them what you will, but his erraticisms are not to be trusted and he makes them. 2) His minions may TRY to advise him, but he chose his cronies and they are yes men. |
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05 Oct 18 - 09:21 AM (#3954851) Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert From: Bee-dubya-ell It doesn't matter who came up with the idea and I don't object to the principle of the thing, just the labeling. Using the "presidential alert" label interjects a personality into a process that should be personality-free. A tornado siren is personality-free. It is perceived exactly the same way by everyone. Nobody thinks it has some hidden agenda. A "presidential alert" is saddled with baggage that may cause people to ignore its message based upon how they feel about whoever is president at the time. There was a time when most Americans trusted the president, regardless of whether they agreed with him or not. Those days are long gone. Why would anyone choose to present what could be life-or-death information in a way that may cause huge numbers of people to ignore it? |