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14 Jan 19 - 12:25 PM (#3971453) Subject: neilidh boyle From: The Sandman here is a chance to hear the moving cloud performed and composed by n boyle, credit ot peter kennedy for being able to collect and preserve the recording,his performance shows how much it varies from the way it is played today , he would be turning in his grav https://sounds.bl.uk/World-and-traditional-music/Peter-Kennedy-Collection/025M-C0604X1236XX-0001V0 |
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14 Jan 19 - 06:20 PM (#3971498) Subject: RE: Neilidh Boyle From: Steve Jones To judge from his comments about the radio performance he had heard, he was already turning in his grave, pre-humously as it were, about the way other people were playing the tune. But I was very struck by the strong similarities between the version he plays on this recording and a well known tune, The New Copperplate. He spoke about forgetting tunes he composed and I have to wonder whether he was getting confused about this one! It also made me chuckle when he evoked "Beet-hoven" and Schubert as if his compositions deserved the same reverence as their works. A character, clearly. |
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15 Jan 19 - 05:11 AM (#3971540) Subject: RE: Neilidh Boyle From: Richard Mellish The words that I am most familiar with to that tune are Tramps and Hawkers. |
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15 Jan 19 - 12:05 PM (#3971573) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: leeneia What is the moving cloud? The link goes to an Irish tune called ---- rua or ruagh, "The River Roe." |
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15 Jan 19 - 12:55 PM (#3971579) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: The Sandman if you carry on listening it goes to another slow air and then he talks about his composition the reel the moving cloud, and he then plays it |
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16 Jan 19 - 06:42 AM (#3971703) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: GUEST,kenny https://thesession.org/tunes/1091 |
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16 Jan 19 - 06:44 AM (#3971704) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: GUEST,kenny https://youtu.be/FrFMUtYCTjE |
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16 Jan 19 - 07:10 AM (#3971706) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: GUEST,Kenny But Orlaith's still my favourite : https://youtu.be/SaaUoc-lrZc |
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17 Jan 19 - 03:59 PM (#3971901) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: GUEST Haven't had much inclination to listen to this man's music since I heard him refer to 'jungle music' and the people who play it in a fairly racist way- he was referring to 'modern music' and musicians. |
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18 Jan 19 - 03:42 AM (#3971960) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: The Sandman Guest , I have always found it important to put aside prejudices and just listen to the music, and judge the music , I like his playing ,however i do not find his playing of airs emotional or very sensitive, there are others who I think play airs in a way i prefer , but technically he was very good and his playing of the reel is imo good.its all subjective but getting back to ROOTS is important |
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18 Jan 19 - 05:42 AM (#3971975) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: GUEST Referring to 'jungle music' as it was played in the dancehalls was pretty common for a particular generation of musicians. You cane hear Junior Crehan do the same in the recent documentary aired by TG4 recently and I have heard more than a few others use the term as well. It's unpleasant to our ears and grates on our sensibilities. All I can make of it is that it was common usage and they didn't know any better. |
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18 Jan 19 - 08:29 AM (#3971990) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: clueless don The link in the original post doesn't work for me - I hit the "play" button, and nothing happens. I'm partial to the "turning-in-his-grave" versions of this exciting tune. Here's my favorite . Don |
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18 Jan 19 - 04:45 PM (#3972078) Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle From: The Sandman was Kennedy a latter day Sharp? |
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19 Jan 19 - 04:01 AM (#3972136) Subject: RE: Neil Boyle / Néillidh Boyle - recording From: The Sandman Neil Boyle, Dunloe, Donegal, Northern Ireland 1953 Tape 2 |
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19 Jan 19 - 05:04 AM (#3972148) Subject: RE: Neil Boyle / Néillidh Boyle - recording From: GUEST,Kenny The link works OK for me. James Kelly and Paddy O'Brien, accompanied by Daithi Sproule on guitar, recorded what is very close to the composer's original version on an LP record titled "Spring In The Air". 2 years ago the brilliant young musician Fergus McGorman had a go at the original version on flute, which didn't really work for me, but others might disagree. His CD was called "Sweeping The Cobwebs Out Of The Sky". I get the feeling Mr. Boyle might have been happier with those 2 versions rather than others. |