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BS: WAV with Pics

13 May 19 - 04:43 PM (#3992180)
Subject: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

This is not a music thread, but it is one where David Franks parks his "poetry." Mr. Franks isn't a regular member now, but this thread is moved to the top of the page so he can continue to post links to his blog.

The first time we tried to move this to the top other members started sniping and turned it into an overtly political thread, and that is unacceptable. Past discussions have been left mostly in place, but new remarks from guests or members that don't have to do strictly with the content linked to will be deleted. This is a compromise that is acceptable to moderators as long as it doesn't become a battleground. ---mudelf



Hi all:

In my free time the last few years, my hobby has been going back to places I visited in Walkabouts: Travels and Conclusions in Verse/WalkaboutsVerse/WAV with a bridge camera.

Here is one example from a recent visit to Rome - quite timely as the Giro cycling and the Italian Open Tennis are currently on:

"A Beautiful Stage"


13 May 19 - 11:33 PM (#3992255)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...stayed in Ostia and had about one day on the coast, one day walking about the city, and one day watching tennis at the wonderful Foro Italico.

There are so many beautiful sites in Rome but, of course, people know it and there are big crowds and queues at most of them.


14 May 19 - 07:08 PM (#3992436)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Even if no one else is able to say it, Well Done.
Was it easy?


15 May 19 - 02:48 PM (#3992535)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks, Donuel:

It was easier last time in 1988, in my early 20s!

But I remembered that - unlike spacious Paris where the good underground is really needed - Rome is a walkabout city and this visit confirmed that.

I took the metro to the Vatican then walked a scenic route - in the order of the photos - to the Colosseum, buying an umbrella and wiping my camera lens a lot in the changeable weather that day.

The other 2 days, I took it easier - on the coast and at the tennis.


15 May 19 - 03:30 PM (#3992541)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: fat B****rd

Excellent selection, WAV. Reminds me of a wonderful week my late wife and I spent in Italy. Thank you.


15 May 19 - 03:38 PM (#3992546)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Where did you visit, FB?

So many beautiful places in Italy, of course - and I'm being reminded of this now by the helicopter cameras covering the Giro cycling.


15 May 19 - 06:22 PM (#3992577)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: fat B****rd

Rome, Florence, Assisi and Perugia.


15 May 19 - 06:32 PM (#3992579)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Only been to the first 2, and know the other 2 from TV and Saint Francis, of course.


16 May 19 - 02:32 PM (#3992653)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A local one this time on a revisit, 19 years on, with camera, to Blackpool and Fleetwood - "A Good Seaside Day" .


17 May 19 - 03:50 PM (#3992812)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Recently on our local NW England news, Blackpool Tower is now 125 years old.


18 May 19 - 05:58 PM (#3992929)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Liverpool"


24 May 19 - 02:54 PM (#3993765)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A surfie poem with pics on, in Sydney, "Cronulla"


24 May 19 - 02:56 PM (#3993767)
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From: Dave Hanson

Here we go again, WankaboutsVerse binge posting.

Dave H


24 May 19 - 05:06 PM (#3993782)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

?

Over here we pay people to go over and photo the UK


25 May 19 - 03:45 AM (#3993829)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I think you hit the wrong button, Dave, but keeping calm and carrying on with upper lip stiff...

Not to compare myself in any other way, Gandhi and Mandela probably disliked their status quo at least as much as I do - one fought with non-violent non-cooperation, the latter resorted to terrorism.

Having been born in Saint Mary's Hospital, Manchester, the day Alf Ramsey's English team won the FIFA World Cup, and been highly trained in Australia and (too a lesser extent) England, I keep promoting WalkaboutsVerse

(The lazy answer would have been - if you don't like it, go to hell.)


25 May 19 - 09:20 PM (#3993974)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Sandra in Sydney

thanks for the pics, the other beaches are a tad different to Australia's beaches!


26 May 19 - 04:32 AM (#3993985)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Agreed, Sandra - although not a surfie, I have bumped into a few of our world's most famous beaches and those around Sydney are hard to beat.

And, when I visit my elderly parents there every year, what I appreciate most is the beautiful rock pools (as in the above Cronulla poem), where I can enjoy the fresh sea water, without too much swell, such that I can keep my glasses on.


27 May 19 - 09:31 AM (#3994163)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"My Diet"


28 May 19 - 03:39 AM (#3994277)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A bit like this thread, for the most part! "One-Pot Cooking"


28 May 19 - 05:03 PM (#3994361)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

For anyone who would like a look at some of the English artists at London’s National Gallery, my intro poem to WalkaboutsVerse, "Pictures"


29 May 19 - 04:37 PM (#3994414)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My hometown poem "Manchester - A Gist"


29 May 19 - 05:28 PM (#3994419)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

wav are you familiar with the poetry of Ian Bailey, he is a neghbour of mine and is also from manchester


29 May 19 - 06:16 PM (#3994426)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No - I had to do a web-search, Sandman; is it the chap in the news on trial at the moment?

Either way, I hope to get back into both the folk and poetry club and festival scenes again but, as I say, I've been spending a fair bit of my spare time lately revisiting places with my camera.


30 May 19 - 12:55 PM (#3994492)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

The Irish dpp said there was insufficent evidence to prosecute, in france you are guilty until you can prove your innocence, he is being tried in his absence in france, it is [as i understand] a civil case which requires less evidence.


31 May 19 - 01:51 PM (#3994696)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

He lives in Manchester now, Sandman? May have been on the local news which I have missed lately due to watching Roland Garros and the Giro, after work.

Heading south, my "Impressions of London in 1997" (with photos taken 3 or 4 years ago)


31 May 19 - 06:17 PM (#3994725)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

no he lives near schull county cork ireland, but frommanchester originally


02 Jun 19 - 05:31 PM (#3994976)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Picturing Sydney"


04 Jun 19 - 04:30 PM (#3995251)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

An Australian PM has (& I have) but still no UK leader has apologised for abusing Aboriginal "Land Rights"


07 Jun 19 - 02:30 PM (#3995557)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Re Brexit and #DDay75, "Remember Them?"


08 Jun 19 - 01:59 PM (#3995674)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Including a pic of Eric, "From Morecambe"


13 Jun 19 - 03:30 PM (#3996321)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With an address, of sorts, not to a haggis but the coconut, my poem Through South-East Asia" .


15 Jun 19 - 07:43 AM (#3996527)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

In 1988, I hitch-hiked from "Land's End to John O' Groats"


16 Jun 19 - 05:26 PM (#3996723)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of Barcelona (including one of the bullring that was) taken during a long-weekend visit last year, my poem on "Toreo".


19 Jun 19 - 02:47 PM (#3997065)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

The introductory poem to the Walkabout Lancashire section of my collection, "More Pictures" - with photos taken in 2017 of Manchester Art Gallery.


22 Jun 19 - 01:03 PM (#3997392)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My song, in C Major, "We Go Together" with pics of pigeons and "bees".


25 Jun 19 - 02:51 PM (#3997849)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With the qualifying on this week, there is not long to go now, so my poem, with lots of pics from a 2014 visit, "Musing on Wimbledon"


29 Jun 19 - 02:10 PM (#3998378)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...now that "Eastbourne" is over for another year.


04 Jul 19 - 04:57 PM (#3999258)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Proud Preston"


08 Jul 19 - 06:28 PM (#3999900)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

On the coast, near Newcastle Upon Tyne, "Cullercoats"


10 Jul 19 - 04:56 PM (#4000223)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Just got home from a visit by train to Buxton, Derbyshire, straight from work, and added a well-dressing photo to my poem on "The Many Elements of Buxton"


17 Jul 19 - 05:12 PM (#4001060)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"A Fern In Full Flight"


03 Aug 19 - 05:56 PM (#4003181)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Joys of Life"


17 Aug 19 - 04:30 PM (#4004891)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

In North East England, with Roman ruins, Wallsend


25 Aug 19 - 04:24 PM (#4005851)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Nice day here in England yesterday, and, with my camera, I made a day-trip into Lancashire to 3 places I had previously visited (about 20 years ago) with my pen; and I've just finished adding pics to my poem on "Clitheroe Castle's Views"


26 Aug 19 - 01:55 PM (#4005926)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

From the same above day-trip, just finished editing and adding photos to my poem on "Blackburn Cathedral"


28 Aug 19 - 05:41 PM (#4006274)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem, with photos of her memorial in Hyde Park, on the death of Diana in 1997 - "A Loss For Humanity"


31 Aug 19 - 12:32 PM (#4006694)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Whalley Abbey...What Tales?"


23 Sep 19 - 05:27 PM (#4010101)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Most of my poems are in trad English forms, but I did try an Italian sonnet and a few Haikus, including this one on "Rivington", Lancashire - now with pics attached, after a recent revisit.


19 Oct 19 - 04:07 AM (#4014382)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"One Rugby?"


15 Dec 19 - 08:08 AM (#4023845)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I just made a visit "To Scotland, Again" - this time with my camera (rather than my pen), and by train rather than the coach journey of the poem.

You can also see in the pics evidence of how much rain there has been in these parts the last few weeks.


15 Dec 19 - 07:09 PM (#4023972)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Excellent tour of Rivington among others


17 Dec 19 - 03:03 PM (#4024259)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks Donuel, and have a happy Christmas..."The Nativity"


18 Dec 19 - 11:00 AM (#4024405)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Monaco and its Railway Loo"...according to Google Blogger stats, the 2nd most read poem in all of WalkaboutsVerse!


19 Dec 19 - 05:59 PM (#4024682)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

And, according to Google Blogger stats, the most read poem in all of WalkaboutsVerse, with just 1 pic, "Congestion"


31 Dec 19 - 11:18 AM (#4025672)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Yet to get back to India with my camera but, via a stopover heading back from my visit to family in Sydney this year, I have been back to Hong Kong and took the photos attached to this poem - "China and India in 1988"

And a happy new year all.


25 Jan 20 - 02:03 PM (#4030164)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

From my time in London in the late 90s, my poem, now with pics, on an interesting street market - "Portobello Road"


22 Feb 20 - 09:53 AM (#4035499)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"At A Pond"


23 Feb 20 - 01:17 PM (#4035687)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

"A Second Ballet"


06 Mar 20 - 04:25 PM (#4037972)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With pics of the M.C.G., Lords, etc., my poem on cricket "Dot-Ball"


07 Mar 20 - 06:07 AM (#4038045)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With pics of the Colosseum, the Burj Khalifa, and Buckingham Public Hospital, my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "Along with the Ingenuity"


14 Mar 20 - 10:41 AM (#4039501)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With pics from the Olympic Parks in Sydney and London, my poem "Olympics or Globalisation?"


14 Mar 20 - 10:51 AM (#4039503)
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From: gillymor

Yet another finely wrought argument for racism and xenophobia. Bravo!


19 Mar 20 - 07:48 PM (#4040797)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No Gillymor - Yet another finely wrought argument for keeping our world multicultural.

And, from just above that, I saw on the news today Elizabeth Windsor, plus Corgi, making way for our new Buckingham Public Hospital.


19 Mar 20 - 08:30 PM (#4040798)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor

The Dixiecrats could have used more of your ilk back in '48 when they were trying to beat back integration.


20 Mar 20 - 01:26 PM (#4040953)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

The USA, Gillymor, should be run by a council of Native Americans/Amerindians/First Nations and those who don't like the idea of that may do what I've done and repatriate to where they belong - the Trumps, e.g., may choose either Scotland or Slovenia; my poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "Repatriating - Australia to England"


25 Oct 20 - 03:52 PM (#4076795)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Just finished, again, going through, and adding pics to, my intro blank-verse poem 0 - 19: HELPED BY “THE OLDS”; SCRIBED 2000 A.D.


08 Dec 20 - 06:05 PM (#4082508)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Just done some more work on the captions of this WalkaboutsVerse song - "Impressions of London in 1997"


08 Dec 20 - 09:50 PM (#4082528)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

One should not dismiss the great great grand cousin of Proust,


09 Dec 20 - 02:44 PM (#4082640)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...In "Remembrance of Things Past" (Proust), a "A Bayswater Bedsit" - my first home in London upon repatriation from Australia in 1997; and photographed on a return visit in 2014, with captions added a couple of minutes ago.


11 Dec 20 - 01:38 PM (#4082957)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With captions just added, my poem on "Portobello Road" - not far from the abovementioned bedsit, in London.


11 Dec 20 - 01:41 PM (#4082958)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Pre Pandemic retrospectives are all the rage.


12 Dec 20 - 12:44 PM (#4083127)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo of a local mural, my poem on "The Notting Hill Carnival"


13 Dec 20 - 02:42 PM (#4083277)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of the Diana Memorial in Hyde Park, my poem "A Loss For Humanity"


14 Dec 20 - 03:33 PM (#4083435)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"The Proms" - with a photo of Albert Hall shot from Kensington Gardens.


15 Dec 20 - 06:08 PM (#4083642)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Oxford" - including photos of The Bridge of Sighs, Radcliffe Camera, and one of Matthew Arnold's "dreaming spires".


19 Dec 20 - 05:12 PM (#4084186)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

At churchyards, "Why the Yew?" with a couple of pics.


20 Dec 20 - 02:45 PM (#4084335)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Hobson's Choice" with photos of Cambridge, including King's College - from the front and from The Backs; thankfully, the carol service is still going ahead on Christmas Eve...forgive me but I guess they had...


21 Dec 20 - 06:04 PM (#4084513)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...some further forgiveness required as this poem is about Cornish Pasties but the two photos from Devon's Exeter Cathedral, "Tin-Miners' Lunch"


22 Dec 20 - 11:35 AM (#4084600)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

Don't you have anyplace else you can conduct this self-promotion of bad poetry? Are we your only victims?


24 Dec 20 - 11:31 AM (#4084847)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Not exactly sure on "victims" SRS but, according to Google's stats, a few hundred thousand have had a look at my verses, and I used to get considerably more visits when my collection was on MySpace's blog spot.

Either way, happy Christmas, all; and, with a pic (again according to Google stats, a few million have looked at my contributions to Google Maps) from Rome and one from home, my carol "Christmas Sung Simply"


27 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM (#4085231)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of pedestrian crossings in London and Chiang Mai, my poem on their timing - "Green Light"


27 Dec 20 - 05:39 PM (#4085236)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Guide books and traveloges have a rich and varied history.
You don't have to even have to call it poetry.

Hey look I wrote a poem!


27 Dec 20 - 05:40 PM (#4085237)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guide_book


27 Dec 20 - 05:48 PM (#4085239)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

So Donuel,
We now can tell,
Is a poet
Who does know it.


27 Dec 20 - 08:39 PM (#4085261)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

I just read it and it has an extra 'have to'.
I have an aphasic stutter in spoken words too.

Oops I did it again...poem

egads and just there too
Rhymes seem to stick to me like glue
Is there anything I can do

Ahh I can read WAV with video and sound.
See... I'm cured.


28 Dec 20 - 05:36 AM (#4085284)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...no longer feeling blue.


29 Dec 20 - 03:53 PM (#4085555)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With newly captioned pics, my poem about The Birmingham Botanical Gardens and Glasshouses - "Bit of Each"


31 Dec 20 - 05:27 PM (#4085930)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With newly captioned photos (whilst, again, watching "The Sound of Music" on he Beeb), my poem on "Liverpool"


01 Jan 21 - 04:20 PM (#4086062)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A poem and photos about the nice rail-side scenery where hills meet the sea in "North Wales"


02 Jan 21 - 05:18 PM (#4086179)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"To Scotland, Again"
- with newly captioned pics from a train journey to Glasgow from Manchester, plus some of Glasgow's fine architecture and 2019 Christmas decorations.


08 Jan 21 - 12:23 PM (#4087070)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Millennium Dreams"
with photos from England and Australia.


13 Jan 21 - 06:53 PM (#4087818)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of the Burj Khalifa & a trad wind-tower dwelling in Dubai, my poem "Overcome"


13 Jan 21 - 07:31 PM (#4087822)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Have you gone commercial in any way yet?


14 Jan 21 - 12:02 PM (#4087927)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No Donuel: as an amateur, I've turned up at poetry and folk clubs and festivals (including a few competitions), and done some mini-gigs; on a lighter note, at Newcastle's Green Festival (quite a big one) it's free entry and unpaid performance, but we were given a ticket for a vegetarian meal so, that day, I literally sang for my supper!


14 Jan 21 - 03:10 PM (#4087956)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With aerial photos of German farming (taken to and fro a visit to Rome in 2019), my poem on, when it comes to meeting global food needs, "Progress"


15 Jan 21 - 01:55 PM (#4088154)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With some photos from the observatory in Greenwich, London, my poem on Mars, "Pie in the Sky"


16 Jan 21 - 07:41 AM (#4088260)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

PIC OF ORION NEBULA i CALL MT OLYMPUS
I prefer the spectacular


16 Jan 21 - 04:59 PM (#4088342)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...I have never had a decent telescope but do have quite a good south facing view from my studio flat; and, just lately, I have been looking at Argos's options; I have 40 X zoom with my late grandad's binoculars but it would be nice to have over a 100...

I tried mostly trad English poetic forms in my collection, but also made up a couple of my own and had a go at an Italian sonnet, plus a few haikus - including this one with a few photos attached of airliners and contrails: "Humanity"


16 Jan 21 - 05:43 PM (#4088345)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Unless you want to spend an arm and a leg in order to get fuzzy views of the Great Red Spot or Saturn's rings, the best astronomy tools for the amateur astronomer are your eyes. A decent pair of 8x30 binoculars are useful at times too. Most zoom binoculars are of inferior optical quality, so don't bother. For meteor showers, magnifying tools are your worst enemy as they cut down drastically the amount of sky you can see. The bins will get you seeing some nice double stars, such as the one in the middle of the Plough handle (a triple, actually, which binocs will reveal), and you can see the four big moons of Jupiter (there's a brilliant app for them). Decent kit for viewing things close up in anything like decent definition will cost you big mazumas.


16 Jan 21 - 05:51 PM (#4088347)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks Steve.

This is one telescope I was tempted by Celestron PS70/700 Refractor Telescope

And this is a good site I found recently for seeing what is out there each night https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/night/

(100)


16 Jan 21 - 06:11 PM (#4088350)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I strongly recommend the Star Walk app. It might cost you a couple of quid, a one-off, but it's incredibly beautiful. Point your phone or iPad at the sky and it tells you exactly what you're looking at in glorious view. Move your device around and you can follow the sky around, even below the horizon, and there are lots more facets to the app. I wouldn't be without it. Apart from Daily Art, it's my very favourite app.


16 Jan 21 - 06:18 PM (#4088352)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I'm absolutely no expert on telescopes, but I would just say that, in order to save both disappointment and your hard-earned dough, you should do mucho homework before you buy, preferably on astronomy-type websites. It's something of a minefield, and I have a feeling that you definitely get what you pay for.


16 Jan 21 - 06:21 PM (#4088354)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks again Steve and I shall keep it in mind but, whilst I am up-to-date with my laptop and Windows 10, I don't have a smart phone as my 2002 model Nokia still works! (It's in my bag in case I have to make an emergency call and for the occasional message, and sometimes used as an alarm.)


23 Jan 21 - 02:40 PM (#4089552)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem "For the Poor" - shaped into a pyramid and with a photo of the Pyramid in Cestius, taken through a bus window in Rome, during my visit in May 2019.


23 Jan 21 - 04:22 PM (#4089572)
Subject: RE: Pics
From: Donuel

Bagle


23 Jan 21 - 05:07 PM (#4089586)
Subject: RE: Pics
From: Donuel

My poem sailing was shaped like a sailboat.

In photoshop finalize the text and draw new words in a different colour or colorize the finalized text witf a word or symbol
unused engagement ring


23 Jan 21 - 06:29 PM (#4089601)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Believe me, you have never written an actual poem.


24 Jan 21 - 05:32 AM (#4089667)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Either way, thanks for the Nasa pics, D. (I quite like the way they peel open); and an apology for the typo just above - it's the Pyramid OF Cestius, in Rome, sorry.


25 Jan 21 - 11:00 AM (#4089838)
Subject: RE:Pics
From: Donuel

Familiar stars in OZ https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2101/SouthernCross_Slovinsky_3000.jpg


25 Jan 21 - 02:09 PM (#4089874)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks, again, D. ... not sure what mountain that is?

My WalkaboutsVerse poem questioning "People or Money?" with a photo of zhezhi - the Chinese predecessor of Japanese origami - from a Hong Kong money-changer.


25 Jan 21 - 04:04 PM (#4089881)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

That is a mountain in Peru thats also beneath the horizon of the equator.

“The ultimate horizon”

Please, remember me
Happily
By the passion flower vine laughing
With bruises on my chin
The time when
We counted every black car passing
By my house beneath the hill
And up until
Someone caught cold that wasn't a cold
With a cough, and fever,
A hospital
A vision too removed to mention
But


Please, remember me
Fondly
I heard from someone you’re still living
And then
They went on to say
That the pearly gates
Had some eloquent graffiti
Like ‘We’ll meet again’
And ‘Fuck the Trump’
And ‘Tell my mother not to worry’
And angels with their grey
Handshakes
Were always done with such abandon
And

Please, remember me
At Halloween
Making fools of all the neighbors
Our faces painted white
By midnight
We’d forgotten one another
And when the morning came
I was ashamed
Only now it seems so silly
That season left the world
And then returned
And now we’re fed up by the city
So

Please, remember me
Mistakenly
In the window of the internet and kitchen
Then pass us by
But much too high
To see the empty roads at early hours
Leave notes of wisdom not read
Just like the gates
Around holy places
With words like ‘Beats underground’ and ‘Don’t Look Down’
And ‘Someone Save Temptation’
And

Please, remember me
As in a dream
We were raised like forest babies
Among the fallen trees
And fast asleep
Aside the weeds now taller than trees
That fell silently
Losing all their height
Gave a gift for tommorrow
In an empty canopy so new life cries
A new idea
That swings as high as any savior
But

Please, remember me
My misery
And how it cost me all my wonder
Those friends that love the rain
And chasing trains
The colored birds above there running
In circles round the well
And where it spells
On the wall behind St. Peter’s
So bright with cinder gray
in spray paint
‘Who the hell can see forever?’
And

Please, remember me
Frequently
In the car waiting for others to finish
My hand between my knees
I was only free to dream
And said I am the unknown poet
But never meant to last’
The clowns that passed
Made me come up with anger
DC was filled with circus dogs
Filling parking lots
It had an element of danger
So

Please, remember me
Finally
And all my uphilling musing
now sleds down the hill
But if I make
The pearly gates
I did my best to make a drawing
Of evil and good
A boy and girl
An angel kissing a devil
A monkey and a man
An orchestra and choir
Filling all of Earth
an auditorium
with old familiar songs.


26 Jan 21 - 02:58 PM (#4090046)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With reference to Henry Lawson's poem "Faces in the Street" and a photo of the monument to him in Sydney's Domain, my poem "The Order of the Day"


27 Jan 21 - 08:13 PM (#4090269)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Old Hippie

Americans are most all immigrants.

HOW FAR WE HAVE COME

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we’ve made of the little they found

There’s cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come

The slave ships they came with the whip and the rack
And a million black people with scars on their back
Picked cotton, drew water, and slept in the cold
With a bible for comfort they were happy and cold

The laws they were passed, slavery went
Our lives integrated at least six percent
In the sharecroppers shack and the big city slum
Who can deny how far we have come

The immigrants came from the green Irish shore
From Poland and Russia, ten million and more
Germany, Italy, all the world round
To settle our ghettos and immigrant towns

Their brains and their bodies they put to the wheel
To build our great factories and towers of steel
To march to our battles and carry our guns
Who can deny how far we have come

Now all through the Andes, they’ve heard of our name
On the factory wall, in the palace of shame
They drink Coca Cola and the times that they spend
Goes straight to the pockets of our businessmen

To pay for our Fords, and our split level homes
Our Hi-Fis and records and six percent loans
Our profits protected with dictators guns
Who can deny how far we have come


In Asia and Africa, they’re learning too
How free enterprise can do wonders for you
South Africas prisons are bursting with men
Barbed wire keeps the Vietnamese in

Where elections are daydreams that never get far
American weapons are there standing guard
We’re ready to fight for the lands that we run
Who can deny how far we have come

Our fears they are many though they’re seldom saved
They’re black and they’re yellow and they’re brown and they’re red
They see through the legend, they smell the decay
They’re learning to fight the American way

And we in our armchairs are quick to condemn
Our bankbooks are falling, our profits might end
The breaking of change is our funeral hum
Who can deny how far we have come

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we’ve made of the little they found

There’s cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come


29 Jan 21 - 12:02 PM (#4090523)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Repatriating - Australia to England" - with a photo of an almost full-English fry-up.


30 Jan 21 - 05:22 AM (#4090634)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Not sure if the attached pics of pollution are your thing (there is also one of a white rhino from a Nairobi Safari Walk), but here is my poem on the pros and cons of "Plastics"


30 Jan 21 - 12:58 PM (#4090702)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Moroccan Tea" and, if I do say so myself, the attached photos are mint!


31 Jan 21 - 03:04 PM (#4090867)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With 3 syllables per line of verse, & plenty of flora & fauna pics, my poem "A Good Life"


01 Feb 21 - 02:18 PM (#4090993)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of Owen, Darwin, etc., my WalkaboutsVerse poem on "Paradigms"


01 Feb 21 - 04:55 PM (#4091003)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

"If we humans evolved from apes,
Why on earth are there living apes?"

Maybe you don't accept the theory of evolution, or maybe you've just kept yourself ignorant of its detailed proposals. In any event, these two lines are a travesty.


02 Feb 21 - 04:32 PM (#4091157)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Not to compare myself in any other way, Steve, David Attenborough majored in zoology and has a strong interest in anthropology (I think his son still lectures on anthropology in Australia); and I majored in anthropology and have a strong interest in zoology.

Thus, I've watched and read a lot of his work, plus others such as on the Sky Nature channel, and agree with most evolutionary theory - but, to my mind, it does not explain everything/there are holes.


02 Feb 21 - 04:54 PM (#4091163)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Of course. But do try to think of a branched tree, not a straight line.


02 Feb 21 - 05:23 PM (#4091167)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...but Homo sapiens lived in the same locations/environments as other apes..?


02 Feb 21 - 05:41 PM (#4091171)
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From: Steve Shaw

We still do.


02 Feb 21 - 05:45 PM (#4091172)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...so they should be "we"!


02 Feb 21 - 07:41 PM (#4091181)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

At this point I'm terminating this particular line of enquiry. When one realises that one can't get through, yet persists in trying, one dices with the onset of insanity...


02 Feb 21 - 09:17 PM (#4091190)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Meteors are colorful While the human or ape eye usually cannot discern many colors, cameras often can. Pictured is a Quadrantids meteor captured by camera over Missouri, USA, early this month that was not only impressively bright, but colorful. The radiant grit, likely cast off by asteroid 2003 EH1, blazed a path across Earth's atmosphere. Colors in meteors usually originate from ionized elements released as the meteor disintegrates, with blue-green typically originating from magnesium, calcium radiating violet, and nickel glowing green. Red, however, typically originates from energized nitrogen and oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere. This bright meteoric fireball was gone in a flash -- less than a second -- but it left a wind-blown ionization trail that remained visible for several minutes.


03 Feb 21 - 04:56 AM (#4091216)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

You will see plenty of colours in a meteor shower with the unaided eye if you set yourself up to observe as ideally as possible. A few years ago we were in Andalucía in an extremely remote location with a perfectly dark sky (1). There was no moon (2). The sky was cloudless and free of haze (3). My sister and I set ourselves up with two reclining deckchairs and aimed our gaze at the radiant of the Perseid meteor shower (4). I made sure that my distance specs were clean (5). We were lucky in that the temperature remained above 25C all night but we did douse ourselves in 50% deet. We saw many shooting stars, most of which were coloured other than "white." In less than ideal conditions, or if you just catch an accidental glimpse of a passing shooting star out of the corner of your eye, you may miss any colour. Of course, the colour-detecting cones in your retina are best in bright light...

And this has got what to do with poetry? Well, you never know...


03 Feb 21 - 12:02 PM (#4091280)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...never been but have heard Andalusia has the only desert in mainland Europe.

Without recalling any given location, I do remember looking up at many stars from outback Australia. (I'm still looking into a telescope, by the way, but figure I'll wait for warmer weather in Manchester to open the door to my juliet balcony, so am not in such a hurry.)

Following on from debate over evolution, not sure if anyone is up for an animal, mineral, vegetable game! but here is my poem on "Collecting the (golf) Cards" - with an extra photo of my minimal mineral collection, just under the tele.


03 Feb 21 - 12:19 PM (#4091283)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

What does WAV have to do with poetry? I dunno
Waves on the other hand have everything to do with everything.


03 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM (#4091300)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

We've travelled quite a bit around Andalucía, but as it happens the desert at Tabernas is very close to where we mostly stay. The film set used for several spaghetti westerns is still there and is a tourist attraction. We stood in the desert but viewed the Wild West from afar only. We could only ever go in the height of summer and the temperature was routinely around 37-40C most days, except in the Sierra Nevada mountains and the somewhat lower-altitude sierras to the east. On one memorable day we tried to sit on a beach at Cabo de Gata in a gale-force wind and 40-degree heat, which wasn't quite like Bude in February. The humidity was so low that it was comfortable in the shade even on the hottest days. In a few minutes we'll be having our usual Wednesday cheesy night in, no cookery required, eaten off the lovely fishy-pattern pottery from the village of Alhabia in Almería province. The pottery may be Spanish but the cheeses will be English, French and German, the olives from Sicily, the cherry tomatoes from the Netherlands and the red and white wines from Puglia and Sicily. Oh, and Bath Olivers... I still proudly sport my EU badge when I'm out and about.


03 Feb 21 - 01:51 PM (#4091303)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

I enjoyed that.


03 Feb 21 - 04:09 PM (#4091321)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I forgot to mention the chorizo, Spanish of course, which I sliced as thinly as I could. I chose a dolce version so as not to overwhelm tbe cheeses...


03 Feb 21 - 04:12 PM (#4091323)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

"...the somewhat lower-altitude sierras to the east..."

For any geography buffs checking up, I meant the sierras to the east of the Sierra Nevada.


03 Feb 21 - 04:12 PM (#4091324)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I don't recall it from when I twice visited my late uncle and auntie (who had moved down from Manchester to a bungalow in Kilkhampton) but the Bude Sea Pool looks very inviting - when the climate warms-up and covid cools down, of course.

(Sydney is famous for what they call rock pools but from Google Maps and pics it seems at least as good.)

Hope to make a third visit one day...


03 Feb 21 - 05:36 PM (#4091339)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I'm a member of Friends of Bude Sea Pool. It's been cleaned out, renovated and been given upgraded yet very tasteful facilities. It's a grand local asset these days. We had an old aunt of Mrs Steve and the aunt's daughter living in Kilk until about 20 years ago so we know it well. It's a few hundred feet above sea level and we joke about its chilly climate as compared with Bude. The sea pool is a great place to get sunset views over Summerleaze Beach to the Downs beyond. I have many such photos! Our favourite lockdown exercise is a quick stomp round the Downs, from Crooklets beach to Summerleaze, past the sea pool. It's been bracing recently!


03 Feb 21 - 05:49 PM (#4091340)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks for the local knowledge Steve - sounds good.

Haven't got a pic of it (as I say, I'd like to make another visit - with bridge camera) and I think I've posted it before when you have mentioned Bude, but after enjoying a walkabout I decided to call it "Birdwatchers' Bude" as, both along the coast and inland, I saw a lot that day.


03 Feb 21 - 06:22 PM (#4091343)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Just behind the tourist centre we have a very unlikely colony of bee orchids. I'll have to take your word for it on tree creepers, but we have of plenty reed warblers (a bird with a sore throat) sand martins, chiffchaffs that now overwinter, a few kingfishers and otters in both the canal and river. I'm told that Ratty lives near Rodd's Bridge, but I fear he hasn't much chance while there are escaped mink about. The unintended adverse consequences of animal rights liberators.


04 Feb 21 - 12:10 PM (#4091455)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I wrote that 20 years ago but imagine I would have checked if it was a "Treecreeper" I saw rather than, with a similar habit, a Nuthatch.

Also, I have since checked on the internet and am quite sure that the cliffs are indeed "sandstone" there in your nice part of the world - but, as you probably know, it varies throughout Cornwall.


04 Feb 21 - 01:34 PM (#4091467)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I notice, mainly due to Covid I think, rugby league has moved closer to the suggestions I made in this poem many years ago - "One Rugby?"; with a photo of Headingley Rugby Stadium.


04 Feb 21 - 01:59 PM (#4091472)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Massive upper Carboniferous sandstones alternating with thin, dark shales. Much-twisted and folded by the Armorican mountain-building phase. Makes for some great sea cliffs.


04 Feb 21 - 02:08 PM (#4091477)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Cheers, Steve.


05 Feb 21 - 02:10 PM (#4091647)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a couple of photos from the Museum of Islamic Art in Doha, my poem "Monopoly on Weaponry"


06 Feb 21 - 06:15 PM (#4091866)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With lots of photos of Kew's Kitchen Garden, and a couple of lakes, my song/chant from WalkaboutsVerse "Just Subsist"


07 Feb 21 - 04:29 PM (#4092031)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo of London buses, my poem on "Congestion"


10 Feb 21 - 12:03 PM (#4092463)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of the Colosseum, Burj Khalifa and, soon to be, Buckingham Public Hospital, my poem "Along with the Ingenuity"


10 Feb 21 - 12:53 PM (#4092473)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Malcolm Storey

Just south of York where the York - Leeds railway line diverges from the East Coast Main Line is an area were a minor crosses over both lines.
This is a popular spot with rail enthusiasts.
It is also a good place to see bee orchids - from late spring onwards.
Always provided we will be allowed to visit.


10 Feb 21 - 02:45 PM (#4092494)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Malcolm Storey

Whoops

Should have typed minor ROAD - dindawlexting fingerts


10 Feb 21 - 03:04 PM (#4092500)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks Malcolm - I know roughly where you mean and am quite sure I've been on the line between Leeds and York (probably for a work F2F meeting way back in the pre-Covid days!).

And I've never come across bee orchids but would like to try and photograph them and, if any good, attach to one or two of my poems...


10 Feb 21 - 04:42 PM (#4092520)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Bee orchids were discovered in Bude about 20 years ago - in a patch of rough grass right behind the tourist information centre. I have some lovely photos (somewhere...)


10 Feb 21 - 04:59 PM (#4092524)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I shall have to remember that for my next visit - "Bee Orchids' Bude," as well as, mentioned before, from my last visit "Birdwatchers' Bude".

...bridge camera on macro mode, probably...


10 Feb 21 - 05:07 PM (#4092525)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Their flowering period is very brief, maybe around mid-June to mid-July.


11 Feb 21 - 04:33 PM (#4092658)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With mummy photos from the British Museum in London, my poem on "Global Regulationism"


12 Feb 21 - 05:21 PM (#4092862)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of me and my music, my poem "Testing 4,3,2,1"


15 Feb 21 - 04:20 PM (#4093312)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

A tad late for Valentine's Day but with photos of a couple of head-turned collared doves, plus a few of Manchester's bees, my love song "We Go Together"


16 Feb 21 - 03:05 PM (#4093427)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With some photos from Manchester Art Gallery, my poem "More Pictures"


17 Feb 21 - 04:50 PM (#4093610)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Several photos attached to my song on a bus trip form Manchester's Piccadilly Gardens to "The Mersey At Didsbury"
- near my first of some 16 homes.


20 Feb 21 - 01:18 PM (#4094001)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With several pictures of the castle and the views, my poem on, in Lancashire, "Clitheroe Castle's Views"


24 Feb 21 - 06:27 PM (#4094694)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With about 40 photos taken with my bridge camera in August 2019, my poem "Whalley Abbey...What Tales?"


27 Feb 21 - 10:33 AM (#4095142)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Above ground where ther is more sky I stand on top of ‘the mountain of perspective’.
This mountain ‘starts off’ at the apex where there is infinite perspective
but once I move down away from this apex, the degree of perspective drops away.
As we move further down the mountainside I end up in an ever-deepening gully
The walls on each side rise up higher and higher, cutting off otherb routes.
At the top I could see in all directions and horizons went hundres of miles
At the bottom, I had no more freedom, I was irrevocably tied to my my feet on a path.
Underground in my minds eye a tunnel of infinite length and cracks and tunnel furrows.
Every furrow is infinite, and there are infinite numbers of them ye I see but one.
To gaze into it means to be trapped by it, to live in that furrow ignoring others

This reality is as an endless array of possible view none of which are essentially true,
and each of which excludes awareness of other views.
The only essential truth is the truth of the tunnel, which contains all the furrows,
If you can see all the furrows, then you can see how none of them are evrything
From mountain top to underground I see how with my eyes most information is lost.
I need new eyes beyond the sky and space and time to see the overwhelming truth.


27 Feb 21 - 10:48 AM (#4095149)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Can anyone here post a live work of spontaneous invention and not just canned formulaic trivia with rules besides me?
It doesn't have to be perfect, just live in the moment and real.

All Dave's candy bars are alike. Who has something different?


27 Feb 21 - 11:41 AM (#4095157)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Donuel: before I sat down to write poetry, I read a lot from the anthology of English verse and, in my collection, tried to use lots of different structures, as well as coming up with 1 or 2 of my own.

As for "in the moment," it's true that I have sat on the 230 poems and songs I self-published in 2003, but I have kept working at it - adding notation to the songs/Chants from Walkabouts and, as per this thread, photos from going back to the places I wrote about with my bridge camera.

And, just a few days ago, I have started adding a "Location on Google Maps" link at the foot of each blog/poem, in case folks are impressed enough to investigate towards their own visit.

That said, in agreement with you, I think, re "I was irrevocably tied to my feet on a path", I also feel folks should stick to the path rather than ramble anywhere - better for wildlife, etc.

And also fine with me if others wish to post their verses here.


27 Feb 21 - 01:52 PM (#4095180)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With quite a few photos of Blackpool (including the Illuminations) and Fleetwood on the Lancashire coastline, plus the abovementioned Google Maps link, my poem on "A Good Seaside Day"


27 Feb 21 - 02:41 PM (#4095190)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

I am sure you have explored and discovered details nearly every little furrow. To gaze into one type of furrow imo means to be trapped by it, to live in that is a grave and not a farmers crop of diverse beauty and food for thought.
Don't denigrate Rambling - Bucko. That man has rambled means that he has inherited the Earth and did not remain in a valley in Africa to die. The Gettysburg address was the ramblings of a man on a train headed to Gettysburg.
With all due respect you are an expert organizer. Organization may fool the eye but not the heart. I prefer artists.
Example: your search for other people's rules and methods prove they are not your own like a singer who copies other people's style but have no voice of their own..Finding your own voice is not an easy thing to do. It is as hard as throwing away what you think you know and beggining anew. What you do is still better than one line inspirational corporate posters like "Hang in there kid".


27 Feb 21 - 02:51 PM (#4095191)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Ouch - I hadn't copped a "Bucko" since my schooldays in the suburbs of Sydney!

Traditions exist where folks have been impressed by how their forebears did things, and I don't regret reading/studying Wordsworth, Blake, Shakespeare, etc., before attempting my own verse; that said, as I said just above, there are structures that I have not seen anywhere else in my collection - e.g., in "Wise"
it's the second last syllable that rhymes.


27 Feb 21 - 02:55 PM (#4095192)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Why don't you ask mods to change your thread title to:
Unique Poems and WAV by Dave


This would be more inclusive and satisfying to your ego.


27 Feb 21 - 05:48 PM (#4095216)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

The uniqueness of this thread is that I'm adding pics to the travel poems which, to complete, could take quite some time, I'm afraid, Donuel:

A trip to the north of Sweden; another to Berlin (my first and only visit included going through Checkpoint Charlie in 1988), Paris and Nice/Monaco; Manchester > New York > LA > Tijuana > LA > Hawaii > Manchester; and a limited version of my trip from London back to what was then my home in Sydney - Mumbai > Gulmarg and Srinigar? > Kathmandu > Bali > Uluru > Adelaide > Ballarat > Echuca > Sydney.

And, from Sydney whilst staying with my family, a flight up to Cairns to visit Kuranda again; and a return flight to Fiji.

Plus several day trips in Lancashire to complete Part 3 of WAV - "Walkabout Lancashire".

For what it's worth, since publishing in 2003, I have only been to 2 new nations, as stop-overs when visiting family in Sydney - Qatar and UAE. I have, however, already been back to some nations with the photos above.


27 Feb 21 - 06:03 PM (#4095221)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Well that work sounds like epic proportions. All I have for suggestions is a forward that could include details such as disease encounters, political and personal information not found in travel guides. Playing up the facts and not the poetry could make this more appealing to publishers. Separate the 'poems' not related to travel elsewhere.
Climb every mountain, fill every niche. :^)


27 Feb 21 - 06:24 PM (#4095225)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Non-travel poems are "elsewhere", D - under Conclusions; the full title is "Walkabouts: travels and conclusions in verse".

If I'm still alive, I was thinking of trying my hand at digitally illustrating some of those without pics..?

Self publishing has been interesting: I've learnt the basics of desktop publishing, sound recording and engineering, printing, fonts, book binding, etc.


28 Feb 21 - 04:15 PM (#4095365)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Irony In Lancaster"
, Lancashire, with several photos.


01 Mar 21 - 03:16 PM (#4095561)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Proud Preston" with several photos of its interesting bridges over the River Ribble.


02 Mar 21 - 05:04 PM (#4095731)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

My song, with several photos from the Sydney Tower Eye and beyond, "Fondly and Vividly"


03 Mar 21 - 01:23 PM (#4095878)
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From: WalkaboutsVerse

http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.com/2010/12/walkaboutsverse-124-of-230.html with photos including one of a monument to Eric Morecambe.


03 Mar 21 - 03:06 PM (#4095891)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Sorry, not should what happened but above should have been "From Morecambe"


04 Mar 21 - 02:16 PM (#4096043)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos particularly closely matched to the words, one feels, my poem on, in Lancashire, "Blackburn Cathedral"


05 Mar 21 - 02:55 PM (#4096194)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With just one photo of a Cascade Globe in my flat, my poem from autumn 2000 on "Waterscapes of Oldham"


06 Mar 21 - 02:15 PM (#4096354)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Quite a few photos from trips "To Spacious Southport"


08 Mar 21 - 03:50 PM (#4096703)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo of a snowstorm, my poem of thanks "To A Driver"


12 Mar 21 - 02:41 PM (#4097347)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A poem about a small study in a Bury, Lancashire, flat that, 20 years ago, I painted in "Oxford Blue" - as did the owners of a shop I photographed in Oxford, with the same name, funnily enough!


12 Mar 21 - 02:53 PM (#4097352)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

To err is human - Bury, Greater Manchester, sorry.


15 Mar 21 - 04:09 PM (#4097820)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With 8 photos attached, so far, my song "Lancashire Sung Simply"


17 Mar 21 - 03:30 PM (#4098082)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

For Marx, it was religion, of course, but I think the National Lottery is "An Opium"
- my WalkaboutsVerse poem with a photo of a Thai lottery, taken on a visit to, otherwise, wonderfully cultural Chiang Mai.


19 Mar 21 - 05:51 PM (#4098406)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem on "Housing"
with a photo of my 3rd home in Sydney, and a video of my 15th home - a studio flat in Walthamstow, London.


20 Mar 21 - 05:32 PM (#4098572)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a pic and a video, my very brief gardening song "In A Small Pot".


22 Mar 21 - 05:17 PM (#4098784)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Olympics or Globalisation" - with a photo of London's, and Sydney's, Olympic Park.


23 Mar 21 - 04:19 PM (#4098948)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My song on golfing lingo, "Lingolf", with a few photos of golf courses, in Hong Kong, Kenya, Australia, and England.


24 Mar 21 - 05:06 PM (#4099115)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of Lord's, the Bradman Museum in Bowral, the M.C.G, and a couple of other scenic ovals, my cricket poem "Dot-Ball"


25 Mar 21 - 05:26 PM (#4099289)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of statues and paintings (including one by my late grandfather, and another by George Stubbs), plus captions that just took me an hour or two, my poem questioning "Horses for Courses?"


02 Apr 21 - 05:40 PM (#4100455)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo from a visit in 2019 to Saint Paul's Basilica in Rome, my poem "Getting to Know God"


03 Apr 21 - 02:00 AM (#4100516)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse - PM
Date: 19 Mar 21 - 05:51 PM

My poem on "Housing"
with a photo of my 3rd home in Sydney, and a video of my 15th home - a studio flat in Walthamstow, London.

you seem to own a lot of homes


03 Apr 21 - 06:01 AM (#4100553)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

At the risk of being accused (damned if do or don't!) of boring you with pedantic detail, Sandman, I have never owned a home and don't wish to: after flying the nest, I've always rented - preferring council/social housing as I don't like capitalism, frankly.

So I'm now living in my 16th home - without owning any of them.

The state should own and rent-out all housing - with some inequality such that folks have the incentive of an economic ladder to climb, via what I've termed "Global Regulationism".


03 Apr 21 - 06:39 AM (#4100558)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...and, on my travels, God knows how many other beds I've slept in..?


04 Apr 21 - 06:20 PM (#4100787)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

On England's south coast, beautiful elegant "Eastbourne"


05 Apr 21 - 05:16 PM (#4100909)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Listed in verse from a 2001 visit, with photos from 2017 and 2019 visits, "The Many Elements of Buxton" in Derbyshire.


06 Apr 21 - 05:16 PM (#4101047)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Lytham & St. Anne's" - including photos of the famous golf course.


07 Apr 21 - 02:54 PM (#4101209)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo of a Youth Hostel Association stamp from 1988, my song on "Windermere" in England's lovely Lake District. (I hope to make, at least, two more visits soon - one with my camera, and one with my swimming togs.)


08 Apr 21 - 05:51 PM (#4101439)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...in the chorus, I go up and down the scale to try and create the feeling of walking up and down the fells.


11 Apr 21 - 04:15 PM (#4101902)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My song "Tees to Tyne: First Impressions" with several photos from my 13 years living in Newcastle upon Tyne.


12 Apr 21 - 04:36 PM (#4102012)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos from return visits to Southport in 2017 & 2018, my poem from 2001, "On A Clear Day"


14 Apr 21 - 04:30 PM (#4102224)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With just the one photo (so far) of what I termed the "Giant's Divots" of North Wales, my poem on "Holyhead and Surrounds"


14 Apr 21 - 06:37 PM (#4102228)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2104/Pencil_TurgeonMishra_3930.jpg
Holy shit Background
Everything emits light particuliary in the IR spectrum so naturally people glow. I am not alone in having a wide spectrum of vision albeit it less intense in color saturation overall. UV looks really violet to bright black. IR looks like a soft white glow to deep red. Some people glow right through their jeans and clothing when background light is low. For people who do not have this light sensing ability it is imperative to never mention it to them for obvious reasons. Especially religious nuts.


19 Apr 21 - 01:15 PM (#4102718)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...from a starry night, to sycamore leaves on the road "To Rivington" in Lancashire.


20 Apr 21 - 02:46 PM (#4102822)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of a few of mine, "A Fern In Full Flight"


21 Apr 21 - 01:35 PM (#4102989)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A poem, with pics, on my move from Greater Manchester to Newcastle upon Tyne (it was actually 9/11 or 11/9/2001 that, after some understandable delay, I viewed and signed to stay) "Further North" (via a couple more years in London, I'm now back in Manchester).


22 Apr 21 - 01:43 PM (#4103131)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Valley Views" in verses and photos, from the abovementioned flat in Newcastle upon Tyne.


23 Apr 21 - 01:05 PM (#4103252)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Again captured from the abovementioned flat, "Circles"


24 Apr 21 - 03:47 PM (#4103384)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

This time a haiku from that Newcastle flat - about seeing the Harvest Moon when "Awoken"


24 Apr 21 - 04:01 PM (#4103387)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Col. Blarthengar wrote something quite similar while in India.


24 Apr 21 - 04:24 PM (#4103393)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

This time Google was not my friend, so pray enlighten me, Donuel..?


25 Apr 21 - 01:38 PM (#4103475)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Another haiku, with just one pic, "Through the Night"


26 Apr 21 - 01:59 PM (#4103604)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With just one pic of the Newcastle bridge in question, "Sat Under A Bridge's River-Flow"


27 Apr 21 - 04:14 PM (#4103756)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I think the photos, captions, and verses combine particularly well in this one - "Upon Armstrong Bridge", Jesmond Dene, Newcastle upon Tyne.


27 Apr 21 - 06:45 PM (#4103772)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Raggytash

Hmm ?

I understand that people wish to promote their own material.

However .................

If one individual posts over 150 times in less than 2 years is this not a touch of overkill?

I may have been slightly more generous if the material had any merit but from where I am sitting it is unadulterated ..........


28 Apr 21 - 01:57 PM (#4103867)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Hi Raggytash - I completed my collection in 2003 and, admittedly, as I have been on Mudcat a long time, most who wished to have a look would have already done so; but, a few years ago, I decided to add photos to some of the poems - hence this new thread.

E.g., above someone mentioned not liking my poems but did appreciate the photos of My Diet and, according to Google's stats, a few others are clicking on the links to have a look...

With four photos attached, "A Glassy Tyne"


28 Apr 21 - 02:00 PM (#4103868)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

David have you ever thought of writing a tribute poem to the bard of dundee. you know how in music we have tribute bands well how about a tribute poem to the writer of bridge over the silvery tay


28 Apr 21 - 02:08 PM (#4103871)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

The (mighty?) McGonagal has spoken for himself, Sandman.


28 Apr 21 - 09:23 PM (#4103917)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Another couple of names to compare with...

John Lennon performed an aspect of American culture - pop - and left England for the USA, before having an airport here named after him.

After study and respect for Aboriginal land rights, I have put a lot into my repatriation and am, frankly, extremely unpopular.

When Gandhi, on the other hand, repatriated from Africa to Asia, most Hindus loved him for it and increasingly asked Europeans (most of whom were English) to repatriate.


29 Apr 21 - 03:53 AM (#4103935)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...and Lefty Laver left Australia for money in America...and had an Australian Open arena named after him?!


29 Apr 21 - 10:08 AM (#4103958)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Celebrate your RAD (reputation after death) now.
Ya can't do it after.


29 Apr 21 - 01:48 PM (#4103986)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...a fisher of men and women?! With 4 pics, my poem on "Whitley Bay Fishermen"


30 Apr 21 - 12:47 PM (#4104089)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With 2 pics from Jarrow, Newcastle upon Tyne, my poem "Next Time"


01 May 21 - 03:38 PM (#4104221)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Still masked but having had my first jab, made my first photography outing in many months today (the above are ones newly sorted and captioned from previous such outings).

A simple train journey to Bolton, with photos newly added to these 3 poems -

"Once Churches"

"Entrée"

"Further North"


01 May 21 - 05:58 PM (#4104238)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Wallsend", Newcastle, with pics of Segedunum Roman Fort and Museum.


03 May 21 - 01:07 PM (#4104514)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

3 photos of The Side in Newcastle upon Tyne, attached to my poem on "The Quick Clubbers' Trot in Newcastle"


04 May 21 - 04:41 PM (#4104750)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"On A Saturday", with a photo of Newcastle's excellent People's Theatre.


05 May 21 - 03:24 PM (#4104919)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Verses and photos on, in N.E. England, the "W.W.T. Washington" (Wildfowl and Wetland Trust).


06 May 21 - 03:27 PM (#4105064)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With newly-captioned photos and a Google Maps link, my poem on "A South Shields Walkabout"


07 May 21 - 03:43 PM (#4105194)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With pics, and a video actually taken on New Year 2018 (hopefully, I'll get my camera out again on 5/11/2021), a haiku poem mentioning the gap between the speed of light and sound, noticed on Bonfire Night - "Remember, Remember"


08 May 21 - 03:07 PM (#4105288)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a couple of aerial photos, from North East to South West England "To See an Uncle, Again" (in Bude, Cornwall).


10 May 21 - 01:36 PM (#4105525)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With just the one pic, my poem "Weathered Pipes...Somewhere"


11 May 21 - 04:41 PM (#4105717)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"A Second Ballet"
including photos of Sydney Opera House.


12 May 21 - 04:50 PM (#4105829)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a photo of The Great North Road/my road to Damascus, getting me into folk music back in 2002, "The 35th Morpeth Northumbrian Gathering"


13 May 21 - 05:06 PM (#4105944)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a few pics of the neat harbour and a Google Maps link, my poem on "Cullercoats"


14 May 21 - 05:26 PM (#4106076)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos added via joining the 5pm Queue after work in 2014 (not an option this year due to Covid), my poem "Musing on Wimbledon - Summer 2002"


15 May 21 - 01:59 PM (#4106162)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of the staithes (in NE England, landing stages), my poem on "Blyth"


18 May 21 - 03:35 PM (#4106549)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A few pics added to my poem on "Bede's World" (now called Jarrow Hall) in Newcastle upon Tyne


20 May 21 - 04:31 PM (#4106817)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With a few pics perhaps strengthening my case, my poem on "Atlas Siblings - Newcastle upon Tyne, and London"


22 May 21 - 06:49 PM (#4107081)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With pics taken this afternoon and sorted this night, my poem on, in the south of Manchester, "Wythenshawe Park"


23 May 21 - 06:21 PM (#4107282)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos from England, Australia and Kenya, my poem on zoos "In Situ"


24 May 21 - 05:52 AM (#4107335)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

You should stick to the town you were born in instead of culturally appropriating other peoples...

:D


24 May 21 - 12:15 PM (#4107391)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

As I've posted before, Dave, I like eco-tourism between our United Nations.


24 May 21 - 04:13 PM (#4107429)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With just the one pic of the mudflats in Morecambe, Lancashire, my poem on "On Fishing Regulation"


26 May 21 - 01:01 PM (#4107654)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I told you that I will happily piss on your parade. You have been having posts deleted I believe. I am not at all surprised given how you turn every other thread you post to into something about you or your 'poetry'. Give it a rest and I will stop posting here :-)


27 May 21 - 11:32 AM (#4107775)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

As I said on the Read Every Thread thread, Dave - a change on Mudcat is that I used to be able to link (but not copy/paste) one of my poems on a relevant thread; but, nowadays, more-and-more, they get deleted - e.g., there is a current thread on trains where I posted my poem on a train journey to Rawtenstall, Lancashire, which was soon deleted, sadly.

For what it is worth, I will be posting less often on here now - I have been reading through and adding/captioning photos already taken, but that is just about done.

Thus, mainly just after an outing with my camera now to add new pics to some of my poems...


27 May 21 - 12:42 PM (#4107784)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Maybe just stick to one thread for posting your poems? With or without pics.


27 May 21 - 12:55 PM (#4107786)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No, Dave - way back, I used to post my Weekly WalkaboutsVerse on a Mudcat thread (as well as Twitter, MySpace, FB, WriteOutLoud, & LInkedin); I only started this one because I started adding photos to the blogs/poems on my Google Blogger site.


27 May 21 - 01:29 PM (#4107791)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I don't think I am getting my point across well enough. Having a couple of threads for your poetry is fine. It is when you pop up on many random threads posting your poems, links to them or your own pecullier brand of nationalism that people get pissed off. As I said elsewhere, if you don't like something, fine, just say you don't and leave it at that. Don't try to take over other peoples threads for your own self-aggrandisment.


27 May 21 - 01:42 PM (#4107793)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"if you don't like something, fine, just say you don't and leave it at that"...you are not thinking clearly there, Dave - lots of debate happens on Mudcat, rather than just giving a thumbs-up or down, thank God.

And, e.g., my polite criticisms (and those from others) of Eurovision were not deleted, pleasingly.


28 May 21 - 02:48 AM (#4107875)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

It does, WAV, and the moderation team got that pissed off with UK politics finding its way into multiple threads they insisted that it was limited to just one thread. I think that is as clear a warning to stop posting to multiple threads on the same subject as any. If you do not heed that warning it is no skin off my nose but you will have no one to blame but yourself for the consequences. I don't see how I can make it any clearer.


31 May 21 - 09:54 AM (#4108307)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thankfully, others can be clearer, Dave.

With a poem critical of his serving (in more ways than one), and a photo in praise of the beautiful Maxply racket he used, my poem "Serious Serving"


31 May 21 - 09:59 AM (#4108308)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jeri

Moderators delete spam.
This thread, we don't mess with.


31 May 21 - 10:13 AM (#4108309)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My understanding is this - because (whatever the quality) I have written poems on many topics, I can and have linked them to many threads on Mudcat; thus, I was instructed a few years ago that I'm no longer allowed to copy/paste the verses here but may link to them.

However, just recently, one or two moderators have decided I can't do that either.

As regulars will know, other members may do both..?


31 May 21 - 11:10 AM (#4108317)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

E.g., on another thread, MG tells us he hopes to visit Kerry, among other places, in these isles, later this year; I read the thread and decide to post my poem about playing golf at the beautiful Ring of Kerry, only to find it has been deleted - as I say, that (a waste of my time for me and possible loss of inspiration for MG) did NOT happen for many years.

WalkaboutsVerse can't respond in verse, while others can?!


01 Jun 21 - 05:34 PM (#4108474)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos of war memorials in London and Lancashire, my poem "Remember Them?"


02 Jun 21 - 05:45 PM (#4108572)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Broke away from the French Open tennis for an evening outing to an ex home in Eccles with my camera - adding pics to my poem "From an Eccles Flat" (as you may know, where Eccles cakes come from).

(I also added a photo of the Eccles War Memorial to the above "Remember Them?" poem.)


06 Jun 21 - 01:40 PM (#4109059)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With photos from the British Museum, in London, and a Diego Rivera print in my flat, my poem on "A Multicultural World of Carrying"


14 Jun 21 - 04:22 PM (#4110166)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Yesterday, after receiving my second Covid jab there, I took some photos of Manchester's SportsCity area - a huge sports hub akin to the Bois de Boulogne area of Paris, or the Melbourne Sports and Entertainment Precinct.

Hence, 5 pics added to my poem "Manchester - A Gist"


16 Jun 21 - 03:14 PM (#4110402)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...or, indeed, Rome's Foro Italico area, where Italy are now playing Switzerland in the Stadio Olimpico, and where I saw qualifying matches for the Italian Open tennis 2 years ago.


18 Jun 21 - 05:38 PM (#4110604)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A couple more photos and captions added to the second-last poem in my collection of 230, "Joys Of Life"


23 Jun 21 - 01:48 PM (#4111130)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Having visited with my pen a couple of decades ago, and with my bridge camera a couple of days ago, please find some pics newly attached to my poem on, in Greater Manchester, "Worsley Village"

...if one can't write a decent poem or take some decent photos of this place...


23 Jun 21 - 02:43 PM (#4111134)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Not every picture is worth a 1,000 words.
1,000 words can't describe a masterpiece.
Birds on wires only look like music script.
Words may resemble whats been better said
but in hollow, boring, and lifeless ways.
Keep mundane mondays give me saturday night


24 Jun 21 - 05:19 AM (#4111173)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Donuel & a musical bird on a wire on a Saturday night...quite a sight!


25 Jun 21 - 09:11 AM (#4111334)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

My first job was with WUDC - Worsley Urban District Council. Known by us as Working Under Difficult Conditions :-)

Then, one day in April 1974, I went to bed in Swinton, Lancashire, working for Worsley Council and woke up the next day in Salford, Greater Manchester and working for the Salford City Council. I didn't even notice! Still, I suppose the new Salford metropolitan area was nothing new after all. The Hundred of Salford, which encompassed the whole new area and much more, had Anglo-Saxon origins.

Incidentally, a friend I used to see regularly until his stroke laid him low and I moved out of the area was Ted Edwards. He wrote some of the finest songs and poems known to the folk world from his Eccles flat! Look up some of his work for inspiration :-)


26 Jun 21 - 05:04 AM (#4111424)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I couldn't find any of his poetry on the web, sorry Dave, but, for what it's worth, did read a lot from English anthologies before, and as, I started my collection, which I ended in 2003.


26 Jun 21 - 12:58 PM (#4111481)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Here is a Mudcat thread, WAV


Ted Edwards and cronies

Good a place as any to start :-)


26 Jun 21 - 01:28 PM (#4111488)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Had a look thanks, Dave - I'm still not familiar with him and those songs, probably partly as I'd moved to Newcastle by then, and only got into folk after attending the Morpeth Northumbrian Gathering from there.


27 Jun 21 - 01:09 PM (#4111602)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I think there is a lot of imagery you would like. "Coal Hole Cavalry" for instance is from the point of view of a child in bed listening to the sound of clogs on cobbles and picturing it was the cavalry coming to the rescue :-)


27 Jun 21 - 05:07 PM (#4111639)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...maybe a bit like Edwin Waugh..? I didn't attempt dialect poetry myself, but I do like his trad imagery in "Poems and Songs of Old Lancashire".


01 Jul 21 - 04:35 PM (#4112029)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

As you may know, whereas in London there are excellent parks in the centre, in Manchester we have to go a bit further out, as I did with my camera yesterday (a couple of decades since my first visit) to "Moses Gate"


03 May 22 - 05:51 PM (#4141058)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A month ago, I returned to the Silk Museum in Macclesfield, Cheshire, to add some photos to the poem I wrote from my first visit, 21 years earlier, and learnt about ahimsa/peace silk - "Macclesfield's Mulberry Tree"


03 May 22 - 07:48 PM (#4141067)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

100 yeqrs ago thousands of mulberry trees were planted in my neck of the woods for a noveaux silk trade. The winters proved too harsh but the trees are delicious.


04 May 22 - 10:48 AM (#4141077)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Yes, Donuel - although I slightly prefer raspberry jam.

To use a bit of local vernacular, silk has certainly been the mother of all threads for us humans (some say the Silk Road from China actually ends in Macclesfield), but I have also seen birds nick spider webs for their nest.


05 May 22 - 02:35 PM (#4141192)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

From a revisit last week, my poem on, again in Lancashire, "Warrington Museum and Library"
; and, among the added photos, you will see that, quite rightly, Cromwell's olde lodge (about 10 minutes walk from the museum) is in far better nick than that of his royalist rival!


09 May 22 - 03:38 PM (#4141302)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Catching up, after the above return to Moses Gate, last year I also went back with my bridge-camera to York, Chester, Liverpool, and Hamilton Road Park (between Manchester and Bury) for my poem on "Sunday Cricket and Berries"


09 May 22 - 04:37 PM (#4141317)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

You could walkabout the wooly mammoth graveyard in southern england.
I wonder if opal has ever been mined in england.


09 May 22 - 04:55 PM (#4141326)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No poem about it, D., but I once stayed (as many locals do for an even comfortable temperature all year round) in an underground backpackers at Coober Pedy - which, as you may know, is a town in South Australia famous for opal mining.


13 May 22 - 12:11 PM (#4141588)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My brief poem, with lots of pics, "On York and Chester" - including the huge Railway Museum in York, where one could probably spend a month and not spot everything.


15 May 22 - 10:23 AM (#4141724)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

And "Within Chester Cathedral's Cloisters"


16 May 22 - 08:43 AM (#4141828)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Having added photos in 2017 & 2018, I returned to "Liverpool" last year, as I'd forgotten about the art gallery mentioned in my poem; I also keep contributing photos to Google Maps and, for what it's worth, the one of Walker Art Gallery's statues has nigh on a million views, and still tops the list of photos there.


16 May 22 - 04:03 PM (#4141886)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Still a lot more camera-outings to make, but I think this brings me back up-to-date here in terms of photos already taken and attached to poems: last week, 22 years on, I went back to Radcliffe (north of Manchester), where the scenic route from my ex-home to my ex-work was actually the shortest way on foot; I used to take notes which I eventually turned into "Following the Sun"


16 May 22 - 07:17 PM (#4141897)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Radcliffe is my home town. Cheers for the pics. I haven't lived there for half a century now but I recognise a lot of the places.


17 May 22 - 10:55 AM (#4141930)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Hi Steve - glad you enjoyed the pics of your hometown; and, probably later this year, I hope to revisit, again with my camera, what I think is still your present town, Bude, and swim in what looks on Google Maps like a fine Sea Pool. You may recall me saying my late-uncle moved there (actually nearby Kilkhampton) from Manchester, and I made a couple of visits and a poem about it - "Bird Watchers' Bude," linked above.


17 May 22 - 10:59 AM (#4141932)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...or NOT linked above, sorry, because I have not taken the pics yet! "Birdwatchers' Bude"


28 May 22 - 03:27 PM (#4142685)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Choo-choo: a couple of decades on from my poem, the steam train still runs, on the East Lancashire Railway line, from Bury to "Rawtenstall" - thus, photos from my bridge-camera now attached.


28 May 22 - 06:25 PM (#4142712)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I suppose that that's the steam train that runs under the bridge by the Premier Inn in Bury. I've leaned on that bridge, not far from the Peel monument, many times to see the train go past, though I haven't been on the train. My two kids have (now in their forties!), as it was one of the treats provided by my mum and dad when they stayed with them, just a mile away down Radcliffe Road.


29 May 22 - 03:48 AM (#4142739)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Yes Steve - just up Bolton Street (which it soon runs under) from Peel Monument and Bury's main church; the guard told me the line also crosses the Irwell some 9 times, on quite a scenic journey to Rawtenstall. (Not sure if it did 2001, but it now also runs the other way to Heywood, which I have not been on.)


09 Jun 22 - 07:19 AM (#4143771)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...clog dancing to his English cittern playing.


09 Jun 22 - 08:58 AM (#4143789)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No, Steve - from my anthropology major, my travels on a shoestring, etc., I'm genuinely upset by the decline of English culture in England.

And, as for "cod-nationalism", if English fare becomes any more rare & exotic in modern England, it may soon come back into fashion..?!


09 Jun 22 - 10:50 AM (#4143803)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A happy medium would be nice - not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink (a polar opposite to now, if you'll pardon the pun).


09 Jun 22 - 11:07 AM (#4143805)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Backwoodsman

"not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink"

Wrong once again, WAV old boy. It was SFA to do with 'pride' and everything to do with avarice.


09 Jun 22 - 11:21 AM (#4143806)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Both, BW.


09 Jun 22 - 11:31 AM (#4143807)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor

" not that long ago, English were so proud of their own culture & ways they lorded it over so many others & painted much of the globe pink (a polar opposite to now, if you'll pardon the pun)."

Am I mistaken, WAV, or are you advocating white supremacy with that statement and the "pun" that followed it? Just curious.


09 Jun 22 - 12:05 PM (#4143808)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

You are mistaken, Gillymor - seemingly only reading what BW quoted and not my whole post, which included "A happy medium would be nice".

I want English to love our world/our United Nations being multicultural - INCLUDING English culture in England.


09 Jun 22 - 12:42 PM (#4143814)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor

It appears that you're advocating segregation of the races.


09 Jun 22 - 12:46 PM (#4143816)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I've VISITED about 40 nations, Gillymor.


09 Jun 22 - 01:10 PM (#4143824)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: gillymor

Do you believe the races should be separate?


09 Jun 22 - 01:26 PM (#4143831)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I'm not saying all can or should do as I've done and repatriate to the land of their forebears, Gillymor.

I think the United Nations should make all economic/CAPITALIST immigration illegal from now on, and help genuine asylum seekers to their NEAREST safe nation.


12 Jun 22 - 03:43 PM (#4144232)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

If I'm called anti-immigrationist, I can accept it with some qualification but NOT "racist" (above), which is defamatory (&, making it worse, the posts - which did not have any racism in them - can no-longer be read.

I love our world/our United Nations being multicultural - including English culture in England which IS on the decline and, thus, I'm one of those trying to do something about it.

Furthermore, I am anti-monarchism without being against any particular royal (I agree with Charles Windsor on some environmental issues, and have said above that Elizabeth Windsor happens to be quite a good public speaker - whether or not she actually writes all the words, as Steve mentions above).


13 Jun 22 - 05:34 AM (#4144303)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

We should be planting more Dog Roses in England - along with the other native flora that our native fauna EVOLVED with.

Agree, Dave, to the extent that, until around the 1950s & mass economic/CAPITALIST immigration, England was an old old blend of European cultures.

And, whilst I was sin the Mudcat "sin bin" (hopefully for the last time), I noticed William Windsor out selling Big Issues, and a regular seller (almost certainly with 100s of times less wealth) falling for it by calling him "The Peoples' Prince".


13 Jun 22 - 05:35 PM (#4144349)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

I thought you hoped that your last visit to the sin bin was the final one? It is racist comments like that that put you there and it seems, for all your bragging about your 'major' (is that an English thing?) and your travels, you never learn.


13 Jun 22 - 05:52 PM (#4144351)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Nothing in my last post is racist, Dave, &, if things were fair, you not I would be sin binned - you have not said where I am wrong but just lazily used the R word again, against a long-term member of Mudcat.


13 Jun 22 - 06:01 PM (#4144353)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Steve Shaw

You don't get a free pass just because you've been on Mudcat for a long time, mate. I can think of a couple of others who were here for a long time who got booted. I've sailed close to the wind meself as it happens. So don't try to pull that one, eh?


13 Jun 22 - 06:07 PM (#4144356)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

you both know that since the 1950s (when less than half a percent were not born here) England's population has changed radically

Why, with all your qualifications and world experience can you not see that as a racially charged statement? Making comments like that is either racist or totally insensitive. Either way you need to stop. But, hey, that is just my advice for if you want to stop being binned. Take it or leave it. No skin off my nose.


13 Jun 22 - 06:20 PM (#4144358)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I'll put it another way for you, then, Steve & Dave - each "ball"/post should be played on its merits; we don't wont monarchical-like inequality, or people resorting to lazy cheap-shots, here do we?


13 Jun 22 - 07:18 PM (#4144368)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

What I've said is realism not racism, SRS, and, in the U.S. or the U.K., any lawyer would tell you that - even if they happened to have pro-immigrationist beliefs.


14 Jun 22 - 07:13 AM (#4144401)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

And many of those countries are in turn made of of other races! The whole concept of pure races is and always has been a falacy.


14 Jun 22 - 10:25 AM (#4144408)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

The fact is, less than half a percent of England's population in the 1950s was not born here &, due to mass economic/CAPITALIST immigrtnion, England IS a lot more multicultural now than then - whether or not we like it, denying that is foolish.


14 Jun 22 - 12:12 PM (#4144418)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

No one is denying it WAV but only you seem to be saying that multiculturalism is a bad thing. Which is why you are seen as either racist, stupid or both. Whether you like that or not, denying it is foolish!


14 Jun 22 - 12:39 PM (#4144425)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

You ignore/"deny", Dave, what I've said here many times - I love our world/our United Nations being multicultural (following many walkabouts, a major in anthropology, etc).


14 Jun 22 - 12:47 PM (#4144428)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Donuel

You ignore/"deny", what I've said many times. What you have here is a travelog. It aint poetry or verse in my book.


14 Jun 22 - 12:54 PM (#4144429)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

I have never once ignored or denied that we are now more multicultural and I challenge you to find an example. I have always said that multiculturalism on our little isle is a good thing though. Which you now seem to be saying as well so I think the discussion is at an end.

Continue at your own risk!


14 Jun 22 - 02:21 PM (#4144434)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...we both, I gather, Dave, don't like John Lennon's way in "Imagine" where we all blend into the one boring culture, but you like your nation being multicultural whereas I like the United Nations being multicultural; now, perhaps, we can end this discussion, which is not that far from the thread in terms of what & how the Jubilee was celebrated?


14 Jun 22 - 03:16 PM (#4144438)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Raggytash

" a major in anthropology"

You have mentioned this several times WAV, are we supposed to be impressed by it.

I would suggest that many of us on here have a degree or honours degree or higher.


14 Jun 22 - 04:35 PM (#4144447)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Long live trad metre & rhyme, Donuel! (Dave - I addressed your second-last post with due care, but it got deleted: briefly, our United Nations v. our nation being multicultural.)


14 Jun 22 - 05:10 PM (#4144450)
Subject: RE: BS: HM The Queen's Platinum Jubilee!
From: Dave the Gnome

The league of nations was formed after WW1 and proved to be completely ineffective as WW2 proved. So, after WW2 the United nations was formed. That, to date, has also proved totally ineffective and has been so for nearly 80 years. It is a red herring that you keep throwing in and absolutely sweet FA to do with either this thread or multiculturalism. For heavens sake WAV, just give it a rest.


15 Jun 22 - 05:51 AM (#4144497)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

(Just a brief clarification, my "Long live trad metre & rhyme", just above, was in regard to this video link from Donuel).

To "give it a rest" (Dave), from Manchester at least, there was a nice-looking full Strawberry Moon, low on the horizon, last night - with just one pic, my poem "Through the Night".


22 Jul 22 - 03:24 PM (#4148106)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Just got back from a (mostly) swimming holiday to Torquay on the English (who needs the French!) Riviera, and thus have added a pic to my song about swimming from "State to State"


28 Jul 22 - 11:44 AM (#4148572)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

You may not need French for Riviera, WAV, but you certainly need Italian :-D


30 Jul 22 - 11:24 AM (#4148761)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Yes, Dave, it's an Italian word & there is, of course, an Italian Riviera as well; joking apart, I hope to return to the French Riviera (probably staying in Nice) to add photos to my poem on "Monaco And Its Railway Loo" (as it was in 1988, at least).


02 Aug 22 - 05:24 PM (#4149079)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Made a day-trip today, via train & tram, to Oldham in Greater Manchester.

As I anticipated, the display I wrote about in Autumn 2000 was no-longer at the Gallery there, so I just added a couple of pics of the impressive façade to my poem on "Waterscapes of Oldham".

Also took a pic of Oldham War Memorial & attached it to my poem "Remember Them?".


02 Aug 22 - 05:44 PM (#4149083)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

It looks like you managed to play a chord using your abdomen but the headgear is cool.


02 Aug 22 - 06:11 PM (#4149086)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I'd probably have to do some cryptic crosswords before figuring that one out, Donuel, and I don't think I'll bother; I chose reality poetry, with trad metre & rhyme, as my medium so folks hopefully wouldn't be scratching their heads.


03 Aug 22 - 07:39 AM (#4149124)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

From a display of a different kind at the same, above, Gallery Oldham, I've just added a couple of League pics to my poem "One Rugby?"

And bee (symbol of Manchester) bags to my song "We Go Together"


03 Aug 22 - 08:05 AM (#4149129)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

happy birthday belated


03 Aug 22 - 08:33 AM (#4149131)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

I am refering to the picture you have on every page of your "poetry" of yourself playing a wood flute. You dunlap. Your abdomen dun laps over the keyboard. Now people will have to click the link to look.


03 Aug 22 - 08:50 AM (#4149132)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I see now, thanks, Donuel. That's the way Google's Blogger is set-up and, by the way, I think it must be one of the best free website options, with no limits on visits & ads only if you choose to add them (which, as an amateur, I don't). I now live in a small studio flat in Manchester & only have a Casio SA-46 "lap-top" keyboard but, back then in my 2-bedroom Newcastle flat, I had a bog-standard recording studio, with a large keyboard.

And, thanks Sandman - 56 years plus 4 days since I was born in Manchester/England won the FIFA World Cup at Wembley (& 3 days since the ladies won the Euros, of course!).


03 Aug 22 - 09:18 AM (#4149138)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Little Jane and John, bought a house in Texas,
And climate deniers were they.
The home sure looked great when 20 years rolled around.
They were so proud, yes siree!

And this is what he said on
the day their house was all gone:

OMG,
I guess we'll have to flee,
our house beneath the sea.
Sea Rise is no joke,
when you begin to choke
every other day
in a flood of debris.

Remember, Janie,
how climate change was crazy
they said it was a hoax
I'll try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the flood is over,
A million fucking years from now!


03 Aug 22 - 10:35 AM (#4149144)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...adding Texas to the in-danger list of Venice, Kiribati, etc.


03 Aug 22 - 01:45 PM (#4149153)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Coastal; Texas, Louisiana, Missisippi, Georgia, Florida...in less than 50 years will look like Cleopatra's palace looked, too wet to walk.


03 Aug 22 - 01:52 PM (#4149154)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Its now under 5 meters of sea water.


03 Aug 22 - 07:18 PM (#4149180)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Allow me to extend some unsolicited poetic devices based on the element of surprise. Like music, surprise in poetry is its essence. Do not fall for the 'unfathomable excuse' of the lazy. Or think an abstract piece is just hung upside down. There may be a fractal truth you could see if you look closer.

1. Rhythm change. It can change in beats or produce a kama sutra sycopated rhythm but it can change. 'All you need is love' is in the time signature of 7/4 but you probably never realized it unless you are performing it.

2. Modulation. Tone, subject, meaning and color can all change.

3. Enigmatic metaphors. People will have to supply their own meaning or ignore the metaphor like 'and shes buying her stairway to heaven'??

4. Surprise is a kind of contrast. It might be a direction change or a sudden witicism. imo it beats a boring pentameter with a bell ringing on every rhyme.


03 Aug 22 - 08:17 PM (#4149188)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

"'All you need is love' is in the time signature of 7/4 but you probably never realized it unless you are performing it."

This song changes metre all the time. The chorus is not in 7/4 and several other time signatures apart from 7/4 are employed. I'd say that it's better to realise this before you perform it. Try wiki.


03 Aug 22 - 08:39 PM (#4149192)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Its fine to extend my remarks and include extraneous material or lengthy explanations. It's called discussion.
Repudiation is for debate.


03 Aug 22 - 09:06 PM (#4149203)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I'm just saying that you got it wrong. Hope this helps.


03 Aug 22 - 09:21 PM (#4149206)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

I know someone who is all shades of wrong but such is the tragedy of narcicism.


03 Aug 22 - 10:56 PM (#4149215)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

a brief example of surprise

It is now evident to everyone
that the most insidious pandemic
is one of extremist insanity.
Is it a symptom of; Covid,
Wall Street pillage, Trump fascism,
racism, global warming climate immigration,
a billionaire explosion
or perhaps pumpkin spice poisoning?
Whether it is a disease, syndrome or toxin,
there ought to be a way to feel right
boost our immune system,
get a vaccine or take a pill
but the other symptoms
are delusion and denial so we deny the answer
that is hiding in plain sight.

THERE ARE 8 BILLION OF US!!!!
When I was born there were 3.

Reproduction is exponential
food and water production is not.

THE GREAT SLIDE HAS BEGUN.
We are only at the top of the slide just starting to accelerate.
The fall is slow at first and is only at 45 degrees.
When we approach 90 degrees we will be in free fall.
Dystopia will be a luxury for the few.
The entitled will be disappointed
that delivery will not exist
and defeats all their strategies.
There will be some real
4 horsemen biblical shit.
But right now we can forget.
There are some people who feel
that i am the optimist


03 Aug 22 - 11:11 PM (#4149216)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor

Why aren't you out on a street corner with a sign that reads THE GREAT SLIDE HAS BEGUN. Seems awfully selfish of you, hoarding all that wisdom and not inflicting it on a wider audience, hopefully somewhere other than here.


03 Aug 22 - 11:31 PM (#4149218)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

This is where WAV shares his creative endeavors. Some of the posts are way off topic - perhaps best taken to more germane threads? He isn't permitted to post the poetry in other threads, so perhaps doing the courtesy of not posting other stuff here would be a good exchange.


04 Aug 22 - 06:12 AM (#4149238)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

That's true SRS - for many years I was allowed to link to my poems as part of my argument on other threads but was told not to a couple of years ago.

Personally, I don't mind other verse & prose here.

Munch of Mudcat's oomph is argument-based, of course.


04 Aug 22 - 08:05 AM (#4149254)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

The fever swamp still has rules and laws. The die off event is not a slow extinction. It will be much less than 1/3. We ARE resourceful.
Hey gilly if you haven't noticed, its too hot on the street corner. Your contribution of denial is noted. The future doesn't belong to anyone but anyone can play. A shit-optimist faces long odds but still has hope. Anyway while I'm here I should check out where the sight seer has been.


04 Aug 22 - 08:30 AM (#4149255)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor

Hey, my Kensington home boy, I was just praising your talent for stating the obvious, in a long-winded manner, like you're bringing stone tablets down from the mount. Sort of like Prof. Irwin Corey's act if he'd taken himself seriously.

(apologies to SRS but WAV doesn't seem to mind the diversions)


04 Aug 22 - 08:43 AM (#4149257)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

The antique district is bigger than ever!


04 Aug 22 - 08:48 AM (#4149258)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor

I remember bicycling through there all those years ago and stopping at the Baskin Robbins on the way back.


04 Aug 22 - 10:09 AM (#4149263)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

A Welcomed first step
hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope

But First we have to
hype then we have to hope
hope hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope

O M G not that !
hope pope pope pope pope pope
er hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope

I'm an Optimist
hope hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope hope
hope hope hope hope shit.

I guess
I did
my best


04 Aug 22 - 10:18 AM (#4149266)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: gillymor

You also have a great talent for missing, or conveniently avoiding the point, homey.


04 Aug 22 - 10:18 AM (#4149267)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

It was just a suggestion, and he chooses not to change the patter here. Proceed.


13 Aug 22 - 01:43 PM (#4150153)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

A train journey through Lancashire, from Manchester to Barrow-in-Furness, allowed me to add some pics to my song "Lancashire Sung Simply"


15 Aug 22 - 09:46 AM (#4150315)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Barrow-in-Furness, Seen With A Pal - Summer 2001" - my only "pal" this time being my bridge-camera (hence several photos attached, including nearby Furness Abbey).


15 Aug 22 - 06:07 PM (#4150352)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Nice song. I like the evolution of style. Are those holes in the ground   from peat removal?


15 Aug 22 - 06:40 PM (#4150353)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks Donuel; and not sure - but there are still peatlands in Lancashire.


16 Aug 22 - 04:48 AM (#4150382)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

There were nice yew trees around Furness Abbey ruins (above), and I've just added a couple of pics to my poem "Why the Yew?"...but YOU may have another explanation as to why they are so often found beside our religious buildings..?


16 Aug 22 - 06:07 AM (#4150384)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I honestly think that nobody really knows. If you google it you'll read all sorts of nonsense about "Celtic druids" and the like, and that they were valuable sources of wood for the manufacture of longbows, the fact that they were in churchyards being a deterrent against the theft of the wood. That seems a stretch to me.

Interestingly, you'll also read that all parts of the yew are poisonous. This is mostly true, although the soft red fleshy bit around the seed is not only not poisonous but also quite tasty. However, be advised that you are asking for trouble if you accidentally swallow the black seed therein, and it would be incredibly bad form to demonstrate your knowledge of all this in front of children and anyone else who might emulate you.


16 Aug 22 - 07:12 AM (#4150386)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

As you are probably aware Steve, and as in my above photos, they have berries now, and I did have a close look at one that had fallen on the park bench...but not a nibble which, just quietly, I probably would have done if I'd read your post first (and checked it in Google).


16 Aug 22 - 07:34 AM (#4150388)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Doug Chadwick

they were valuable sources of wood for the manufacture of longbows, the fact that they were in churchyards being a deterrent against the theft of the wood.

I had always heard that yew trees were in church yards because they were enclosed spaces and thus kept livestock from grazing on the poisonous leaves.

DC


16 Aug 22 - 08:11 AM (#4150391)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

That's what my uncle told me, as in the above-linked poem, DC.


16 Aug 22 - 09:11 AM (#4150395)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

But is that a reason for planting yews rather than any other trees?

On a pedantic note, yews don't produce berries. They are conifers, and berries are found in flowering plants only. If you look closely you'll see that the red fleshy part (the aril) forms a cup-like structure around the seed but doesn't enclose it completely. Some animals eat the fleshy part and pass the seed through the gut without digesting it. I wouldn't recommend experimentation in this regard.


16 Aug 22 - 11:16 AM (#4150403)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

Yew trees were the original source of tamoxifen, that is now manufactured synthetically. Used to treat breast cancer. Not something to just nibble on.


16 Aug 22 - 11:41 AM (#4150406)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Mrs Steve took part in a major clinical trial of tamoxifen for breast cancer some years ago, which consisted of five years' taking the drug or placebo in a double-blind trial and five years of follow-up. I don't think there's a connection between tamoxifen and yew trees. There has been success in trialling some yew extracts for cancer treatment.


16 Aug 22 - 12:02 PM (#4150408)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

Why do you think I mentioned it if I didn't know it to be true?

"Taxol® (NSC 125973)
Paclitaxel, the most well-known natural-source cancer drug in the United States, is derived from the bark of the Pacific yew tree (Taxus brevifolia) and is used in the treatment of breast, lung, and ovarian cancer, as well as Kaposi's sarcoma."


16 Aug 22 - 01:40 PM (#4150414)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

But taxol isn't tamoxifen.

Here's the story of tamoxifen, an extract from an article by Cancer Research UK:

The story of tamoxifen starts back in 1896, when pioneering cancer surgeon Dr George Beatson found that he could extend the lives of women with breast cancer by surgically removing their ovaries – a major oestrogen source. This gave researchers the first clue that oestrogen was involved in the growth and development of breast cancer.

Over the next five decades, doctors experimented with a variety of man-made oestrogen-like chemicals (such as stilboestrol, developed by Cancer Research UK scientist Professor Charles Dodds in 1937) to try to treat breast cancer. Although sometimes these efforts were successful, the side-effects were too severe for widespread use. By the mid 60s, the research had hit a dead end.

Contraceptive research

At roughly the same time, researchers at ICI (now AstraZeneca) in the UK, were investigating the effects of various oestrogen-like chemicals on the reproductive systems of rats, with the aim of trying to find new contraceptives and cholesterol-lowering drugs.

They developed several promising drug candidates, including one with the catchy name ICI46,474. But for various reasons, including lack of support and competing priorities, its development stalled.

War on cancer

Eventually, due to a combination of luck, good judgement, a bit of trans-Atlantic to-ing and fro-ing, and the declaration of a ‘war on cancer’ by President Nixon, there was a renewed interest in developing an oestrogen-blocker to treat breast cancer.

ICI46,474 was developed into tamoxifen, and doctors started giving it to patients in the early 70s. And the drug was licensed for the treatment of advanced breast cancer in the UK in 1972.


17 Aug 22 - 01:44 PM (#4150477)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I was told that Yew trees grow well in graveyards because the soil is so rich! I'm sure it is nonsense but it is a good story :-D


17 Aug 22 - 02:10 PM (#4150479)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

The autumn bright yellow leaves
are great. They grow well around schools supposedly because of all the bad boys and girls who mysteriously disappeared.


17 Aug 22 - 04:28 PM (#4150488)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I have a lovely pair of bones made of yew. Unfortunately, I could never master them and you would miraculously close up all the seating spaces if I turned up to your session with them...


17 Aug 22 - 05:32 PM (#4150494)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I've heard the spoons played at a folk club/festival session but not yet the bones...

Donuel - clicked your link to have a look but got an error message.


17 Aug 22 - 05:44 PM (#4150496)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Of course you could have fun with word games

Have you seen the yew, Hugh?


17 Aug 22 - 05:47 PM (#4150497)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Hugh: "Yes, last Sunday - just before taking a pew".


17 Aug 22 - 07:01 PM (#4150509)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

You do not hear the spoons. You endure the spoons. There was this spoons bloke who turned up to the Tree Inn session once a year with the Sealed Knot (for the reenactment of the Battle of Stamford Hill). He was the most ignorantist-ever bastard to turn up to any session (except for any bodhran owner). He was the only person in 20 years who I had to tell to bugger off out of it in no uncertain terms. Utter twattery doesn't even begin to describe his attitude...


18 Aug 22 - 05:54 AM (#4150525)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...maybe he was born with a silver..?!


04 Sep 22 - 08:45 AM (#4151927)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

In North Wales, https://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.com/2010/08/walkaboutsverse-165-of-230.html - including photos, from a train window, of Snowdonia & the Menai Straits/"Swellies" plus, from near the station, Conwy Castle.


04 Sep 22 - 08:47 AM (#4151928)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...the link works fine but I forget to input the title "Holyhead and Surrounds", sorry.


04 Sep 22 - 08:52 AM (#4151929)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

No it doesn't!...try again: "Holyhead and Surrounds"


04 Sep 22 - 06:31 PM (#4151970)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...more editing, after my couple of days away, and I've just added some "hills meeting sea" pics to my poem on "North Wales" - including Puffin Island, & Llandudno's Great Orme plus (if you look carefully) Little Orme, taken from the train between Bangor & Conwy.


07 Sep 22 - 03:49 PM (#4152235)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Colourful Llandudno" with pics - including one of the goats now back on the Great Orme, having gone into a quieter town-centre during Covid, as you may have seen on the news.

Whether or not Punch and Judy is a tad too colourful, some of the Llandudno seagulls certainly are! Thinking I wouldn't take a pic until the end of the pier, I was eating some chips on the hoof when one of them knocked off quite a few - including most of the sauce. If accused of chipping rather than their traditional fishing, they certainly seem to do pretty well on it - big healthy looking (as well as cocky) things.


12 Sep 22 - 11:44 PM (#4152248)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Donuel

Like a diamond stuck in a goat's ass I hesitate to explore it.


13 Sep 22 - 10:53 AM (#4152325)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Funnily enough we spent the night in the Grand Hotel, Llandudno, just over a week ago. Not been for years and forgotten how pretty it can be.


13 Sep 22 - 10:54 AM (#4152327)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...you could follow that goat(ee) for a while, Donuel, and wait for a cleansing downpour..?


13 Sep 22 - 11:05 AM (#4152329)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Agree, Dave. I was there on 30 & 31 August. I only had their breakfast on the second morning as I was planning on a swim on the first - but, alas, was put off by the tides. And I was in the hall with the big screen both nights, sipping on a G & T.


13 Sep 22 - 11:42 AM (#4152334)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

I haven't been for many a long year, but it's a quaint old place, and Great Orme is a wonderland for field botanists. Picturesque too.


13 Sep 22 - 11:59 AM (#4152339)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Agree Steve - only attached one to the poem but took several pics of the flora on my evening walk up the Great Orme; haven't been up the Little Orme but imagine it would be similarly enjoyable..?


13 Sep 22 - 12:16 PM (#4152340)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...by the way, a couple of years ago I had prolonged metatarsal pain in my left club-foot and would not have tried such a walk/hike...so things don't always get worse with age!!


14 Sep 22 - 03:27 AM (#4152415)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman

Near the Grand: What's the site of the old Pier Pavilion like these days? Is it still a mess?


14 Sep 22 - 05:13 AM (#4152431)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I think, Jon, that area now has the above-mentioned chippy, touristy shops, games hall, and a ferris wheel - as lit-up in the pic attached to the poem linked above (in reasonable nick, I'd say).


17 Sep 22 - 07:31 AM (#4152729)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

There is development at the side of the Grand - between it and the pier entrance. I think there was an hotel there before the Grand. It may have been slightly to the right of it as you are facing the front of the Grand. It is quite a deep excavation and looks like it may have been very substantial.


17 Sep 22 - 07:45 AM (#4152734)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman

That was the Pier Pavilion. It burnt down in 1994.


17 Sep 22 - 01:14 PM (#4152765)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

That (local) article Jon links to saying "The site has lain empty and overgrown ever since, while its future has become a controversial topic of discussion" was almost exactly a year ago (25/9/2021)..? At least some of the area shown in flames on the attached photo is definitely now (re)developed as I described above...but, behind that, on the Grand's front-entrance side as Dave describes, there may still be an area left undeveloped (which I probably framed my pics away from)..?

I've noticed quite a lot of development & refurbishment type work has taken place in England during the quiet Covid period.


17 Sep 22 - 01:50 PM (#4152769)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Jon Freeman

I'd guess that's right WAV. They've just temporarily improved the appearence from on side.

I lived in the area 1978-2001 although nearly all of that was about 3 miles out of Llandudno. We went into town the night of the fire and got stopped by the police. They let us through as we were bound for the Llandudno Folk Club but I think they were turning "sightseers" round.


17 Sep 22 - 05:12 PM (#4152782)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Ahhhh. That's what ir was!


18 Sep 22 - 03:47 AM (#4152795)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

With great helicopter shots, I just saw on T.V. the end of the Men's Time Trial of the World Cycling Championships from Wollongong, N.S.W., and remembered a photo of me nearby at the Southern Gateway Centre, Bulli Tops - now added to my poem on "A Multicultural World of Carrying"


30 Sep 22 - 05:14 PM (#4154305)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My nephew having just visited me in Manchester for a week, I've added some pics to my song "The Mersey At Didsbury"


21 Oct 22 - 05:31 PM (#4155890)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...and to my hometown poem "Manchester - A Gist"


21 Oct 22 - 07:02 PM (#4155895)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Nice bunch of pics of Manchester there. Having lived as a kid and teenybopper just eight miles north of Manchester in the fifties and sixties, I must say that Manchester never endeared itself to me. In those days there were hundreds of uncleared WWII bomb sites, and the whole place seemed impersonal and, in a few areas, just a tad intimidating. I had relatives in Whitefield and Prestwich, and my mum was a Salford lass, and Heaton Park was a frequent resort, but we rarely penetrated further south than that. Manchester was a necessary place to pass through, Piccadilly across the city to Victoria station, then home to Radcliffe on the tram or whatever they call it these days. Generally, we gravitated towards Bolton, where I went to school, or Bury. I understand that Manchester has regained some of its vibrancy in recent years (and the club scene was always great anyway).

Just musing!


22 Oct 22 - 04:29 AM (#4155922)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thanks Steve.

Most of my family and relatives left Manchester, including, as I may have mentioned before, a late uncle and auntie who, like you, moved to Cornwall - Kilkhampton, where I enjoyed a couple of visits.

My nephew, visiting from Australia, liked Manchester as he is very keen on football.

Unlike London, there are no great parks and gardens in the centre, but some nice ones further out in the suburbs, and the canals around the Deansgate area of the city are (nowadays) quite scenic, I think.


22 Oct 22 - 05:19 AM (#4155932)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Kilkhampton ("Kilk" round here) is ten minutes up the road from us. We had relatives there too, now long gone. We used to play music in the New Inn in years gone by. Unfortunately, Kilk has the worst chippie it's been my misfortune to encounter. Tsk. However, the little butcher's shop in the middle of the village is wonderful. I'm cooking a lovely shoulder of his lamb, from his own farm, this very afternoon.


22 Oct 22 - 06:05 AM (#4155936)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Any herbs from your garden with that Steve...rosemary..?

Possible you bumped into my late uncle, Les Garside, at some stage - before retiring there, he was a paramedic both during and after the war and, quite a character, liked to take charge of just about every social situation! A lot seemed to know him when we were walking around Bude and Kilk.

One thing I forgot re Manchester, whereas Scousers may (justifiably) boast of 2 great cathedrals, in Manchester we have two pretty good libraries: Central (based on the Pantheon's design, I think) and John Rylands (both among the above pics).


22 Oct 22 - 06:44 AM (#4155940)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Steve Shaw

Rosemary on the lamb, thyme, parsley and bay leaf in the stock for gravy, mint for the mint sauce. All picked in the last fifteen minutes. It smells nice round here.


22 Oct 22 - 07:30 AM (#4155943)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I'm sure it does - and almost the line of a song "parsley, (sage), rosemary, and thyme" (Scarborough Fair)!


22 Oct 22 - 11:21 AM (#4155957)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My nephew and I also made a day-trip by train to Blackpool, where I photographed the Illuminations for a second time (they are on until 2/1/2023); hence a few more pics added to my poem "A Good Seaside Day".


22 Oct 22 - 11:42 AM (#4155960)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I used to love going into Manchester from about 14 to 20-ish. New Brown Street was the Carnaby Street of Manchester but I used to like the Army surplus in Tib Street better :-) The underground market was another place to hang out - you could get high just from standing around breathing in the pot smoke! Aunties kitchen was one of my favourite rock venues where I once saw a man have a fight with a meat pie :-D Sadly, in 1975, the Arndale centre ripped the heart out of Manchester and it was never quite the same after the monstrosity was built :-(

Mrs G and I used to go in 'early doors' on a Saturday quite often in the 00s though, when the kids were capable of looking after themselves, and we used to quite enjoy that. Very rarely went in the Arndale but used to have a good mooch around St Anne's Square and Densgate or round the Cathedral and Victoria before eating in one of many hostelries and heading back home about 7-ish. Before the nutters came out to play :-D


22 Oct 22 - 12:02 PM (#4155966)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...maybe he was built for comfort and the (lonely) pie had started it by asking: "who's eaten all the pies?"..?


22 Oct 22 - 12:38 PM (#4155978)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

I think it was more to do with certain substances that were readily available in AK :-D


27 Oct 22 - 02:29 PM (#4156500)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,WalkaboutsVerse

Could be anyone but is (newly blocked) me - who has just added a couple of light-hearted pics to my poem "Repatriating - Australia to England"


28 Oct 22 - 11:28 AM (#4156552)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,Modette

That's doggerel, not poetry, and not even very good doggerel at best.

What does this thread have to do with music?

WAV is no longer welcome to post in the BS section so membership has been suspended. This one thread that contains said doggerel is the one he's allowed to continue to add to - and we will assume that you now know better and will never open it again. This post and note will be removed after a period of time when people can register your complaint and understand the reason. ---mudelf


28 Oct 22 - 01:18 PM (#4156567)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

Via a maritime Mount,
    Fleetwood with its channel out;
would this be a double entendre poem


28 Oct 22 - 01:20 PM (#4156568)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

i think this poem shows an influence of Bob Dylan, remiscent of farewll angelina


28 Oct 22 - 01:23 PM (#4156569)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: The Sandman

Farewell, Angelina
The bells of the crown
Are being stolen by bandits
I must follow the sound
The triangle tingles
And the trumpets play slow
But farewell, Angelina
The sky is on fire
And I must go
There's no need for anger
There's no need for blame
There's nothing to prove
Everything's still the same
Just a table standing empty
By the edge of the sea
Means farewell, Angelina
The sky is trembling
And I must leave
The jack and queen
Have forsaked the courtyard
52 gypsies
Now file past the guards
In the space where the deuce
And the ace once ran wild
Farewell, Angelina
The sky is falling
I'll see you in a while
See the cross-eyed pirates sitting
Perched in the sun
Shooting tin cans
With a sawed-off shotgun
And the neighbors, they clap
And they cheer with each blast
But farewell, Angelina
The sky's changing color
And I must leave fast
King Kong, little elves
On the rooftop they dance
Valentino-type tangos
While the make-up man's hands
Shut the eyes of the dead
Not to embarrass anyone
But farewell, Angelina
The sky is embarrassed
And I must be gone
The machine guns are roaring
And the puppets heave rocks
And fiends nail time bombs
To the hands of the clocks
Call me any name you like
I will never deny it
But farewell, Angelina
The sky is erupting
I must go where it's quiet
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Bob Dylan


28 Oct 22 - 01:33 PM (#4156573)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,WalkaboutsVerse

For the benefit of anyone else on here, Sandman's quote is from a "A Good Seaside Day" - linked just above, and with pics (hopefully) helping show what I describe, but with none of your "double entendre" I'm afraid.


28 Oct 22 - 01:45 PM (#4156578)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,Modette

I'll take note, mudelf. However, as the dogger has clearly insulted me ('if you can count'), I must point out that said dogger's oeuvre is just a mere flippancy when compared to the rhymes of Patience Strong.

Here's one of her greatest works, 'The Company of Nations'.

'A group of islands, loved and lovely, first a colony -
    Strung out like a necklace flung across the southern seas -
Now a beautiful Dominion, God's own gift to us -
    A jewel in the Israel crown, a pearl most marvellous
Rich in churches, farms and cities; pastures, cattle, sheep -
    where this people British-bred their ancient laws may keep.


First of Britain's family to come to Britain's aid -
    In two great world-wide wars - the memory shall not fade -
From the Mother heart that beats in London's sanctuary.
    Across the world we hail New Zealand - one of our company.'


28 Oct 22 - 02:05 PM (#4156580)
Subject: RE: WAV with Pics
From: Stilly River Sage

Ouch.

T. Cholmondeley Frink in Lewis's Babbitt was modeled after Edgar Guest, "The Poet of the People." Same kind of stuff.


16 Nov 22 - 04:35 PM (#4157838)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,WalkaboutsVerse

With a new pic of an old print added, my poem "Above Everest"
/Chomolungma (Tibetan)/Sagarmatha (Nepalese) - which Apa Sherpa, from Nepal, has climbed 21 times!


17 Nov 22 - 09:14 AM (#4157902)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: GUEST,Modette - PM
86.40.45.39
Date: 17 Nov 22 - 08:13 AM

Why has this crap crept back in?

___________________________


Very simply, Modette, WAV is allowed to post his poetry but not to enter into BS discussions. The best way of keeping it that way is to not goad him into any arguments. If you don't like his poetry just don't read it. I do not particulary like or understand it either but will defend his right to publish it!


WAV is pushing boundaries - the next time, the IP is also blocked. There will be no mention of "English values" vs the United Nations in any other thread. Not obits, not anywhere. Your Aryan view of the world is not welcome here, David. Understood? ---mudelf


17 Nov 22 - 09:31 AM (#4157904)
Subject: RE: BS: WAV with Pics
From: Dave the Gnome

That is all a matter of personal taste I suppose. There is some really good music that I don't like and some crap that I do! As long as he doesn't do any hate speech, leave him be to post his poems.