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26 Dec 19 - 03:11 PM (#4024986) Subject: BS: Eh? From: Senoufou What the heck has happened? Complete obliteration? This is very weird! Ah well. Can I be the lone poster to hope everyone had a lovely Christmas and to wish all Mudcatters (if there are any left!) a Happy New Year when it comes. Gulp. |
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26 Dec 19 - 03:21 PM (#4024990) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage Max had to work with Comcast regarding the setup for Mudcat. It seems to have taken the company a while to get it right. |
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26 Dec 19 - 03:39 PM (#4024998) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stanron Reciprocated greetings. Not having Mudcat for a few days brings home how valued it is. |
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26 Dec 19 - 04:16 PM (#4025003) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish > It seems to have taken the company a while to get it right. But have they? It's only been working for a very short time. Will it stay working? |
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26 Dec 19 - 04:22 PM (#4025005) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage Don't jinx it! |
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26 Dec 19 - 05:12 PM (#4025011) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Doug Chadwick |
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26 Dec 19 - 05:15 PM (#4025012) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Doug Chadwick Oops! I didn't mean to post anything. |
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26 Dec 19 - 05:15 PM (#4025013) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: fat B****rd Quick !! Happy New Year everybody |
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26 Dec 19 - 05:40 PM (#4025016) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Mrrzy Love you all! Max and mudelves especially! |
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26 Dec 19 - 06:15 PM (#4025017) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: peteglasgow Is this a ruthless but happy culling of just about everything? if so - well done! |
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26 Dec 19 - 07:44 PM (#4025021) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu You're back, you're back, you're back. So Comcast is to blame. I'll remember that ... |
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26 Dec 19 - 09:36 PM (#4025043) Subject: RE: BS: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Helen To Max and all the Mudelves, I hope you had a happy Christmas and I wish you all the best for the new year. Thanks for everything you do to keep Mudcat going, or to get it back on track when it runs off the rails sometimes. Sending the biggest, the best and the brightest wishes to all of you, and to all Mudcatters as well. |
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26 Dec 19 - 09:50 PM (#4025046) Subject: tech: missed the Cat From: leeneia Hello, Max. How I missed the Mudcat these past few days. I'm so glad it's back. I appreciate your efforts. A couple weeks ago I made my annual contribution. How about the rest of you? Have you Mudcat regulars sent in some shekels to help keep this site going? It's time. |
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27 Dec 19 - 03:30 AM (#4025065) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Sandra in Sydney thanks, Max |
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27 Dec 19 - 04:56 AM (#4025073) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,JHW but the robots have forgotten Thought it had gone for good. Tried various ways (non techhead) and decided just something else I'd have to live without. Was about to mail other users. Should we all send donations? |
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27 Dec 19 - 06:17 AM (#4025080) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish I'm happy to chuck in a bit more money if it's needed. But please can someone tell me how we can find out what's happening next time Mudcat is down? Sometimes it's possible to get to one of the servers directly when mudcat.org doesn't work, but I know that is deprecated and anyway there are times when we can't get in at all. Is there somewhere else where a notice can be posted? Preferably not Facebook, which some of us prefer to steer clear of, but a page there that is visible without having to log in would be acceptable. |
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27 Dec 19 - 07:10 AM (#4025085) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Sandra in Sydney I'm not on facebook & don't want to be, but I do regularly look at cartoonist pages & a few others. Very occasionally facebook sez. join up so I immediately close the window & check out the cartoons the next day! Mudcat Cafe public group I can see one post from 25 dec asking about mudcat not working but there might have been others only visible to members. sandra |
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27 Dec 19 - 08:52 AM (#4025089) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Jack Campin Twitter would probably be the best medium. You don't need an account to follow it and it wouldn't need moderators interfering. |
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27 Dec 19 - 10:34 AM (#4025095) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,keberoxu Sandra, I too looked at the Mudcat Cafe public group Facebook page. (nor am I on facebook) and I saw two separate posts, one before Christmas and one on/after Christmas, asking why the Forum was offline. So that gave me a clue. I also looked at Mudcat's Twitter account, Jack, and the account was active and all, but had no posts about the problems that took Mudcat offline. |
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27 Dec 19 - 12:15 PM (#4025110) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: punkfolkrocker ..so what's so bad about mudcat having a holiday over xmas...??? I've always been an enthusiast for two whole weeks off from everything over xmas and new year... Some folks are just too keen to get back to the daily grind asap after boxing day.. It's unhealthy...!!! ..and keep your phones switched off as well... Many thanks to Max and mods for keeping this site alive, but don't they deserve a vacation from all the stress, as much as the rest of us do...??????? |
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27 Dec 19 - 04:25 PM (#4025133) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,keberoxu it's pathetic of me. But I have checked back here several times today just to make certain that the Forum hasn't gone away again! |
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27 Dec 19 - 08:54 PM (#4025144) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Sandra in Sydney Mudcat on twitter????? |
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28 Dec 19 - 05:58 AM (#4025170) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Backwoodsman Twitter?? Aaaaaaaarrgghh!! No way in hell am I getting involved with that spawn of the devil! The Mudcat Café Public FB Group should be visible at least to any FB Member, although only Group members should be able to post to it. Seems as good a place as any for enquiries about the health of the forum when it’s off-line? Happy NooYear to everyone! (As we’ve recently been reminded elsewhere, this is an American forum, so I’ve adjusted my pronunciation there). :-) |
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28 Dec 19 - 11:00 AM (#4025216) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: DaveRo Backwoodsman wrote: Twitter?? Aaaaaaaarrgghh!! No way in hell am I getting involved with that spawn of the devil!You should take a look at it. Jack is right, it would be an ideal place for Max to let us know what's happening, should he choose to. Not only do you not need an account to follow a twitter feed, you don't need an app either - you can do it with a browser (though on some mobile devices it might involve dismissing 'Please use our app...' messages). Official feeds like Train Operating Companies are often the first place they announce problems on the railway and a better source of information than the station staff. e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/Se_Railway I don't have a twitter account but my son does. He uses it to publicly complain about products and services. Sometimes, he gets a response and gets things fixed. I don't have a Facebook account either. Of the two I regard Twitter as more open and less malign. A recent tweet from Jack Dorsey, their CEO. Mudcat's twitter feed is just a robot, though it apparently has 1600 followers (who may also be robots ;) |
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28 Dec 19 - 11:01 AM (#4025217) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage https://twitter.com/MudcatCafe |
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28 Dec 19 - 11:03 AM (#4025221) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,keberoxu Well, there you are. I'm such an ignoramus that I don't know a twitter feed from a proper twitter account. Guess I learned something today. |
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29 Dec 19 - 07:01 AM (#4025318) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel I second pfr |
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30 Dec 19 - 07:18 AM (#4025441) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu Pfr and Donuel have a point -- it was nice to take a break from the usual hostilities (which are visible above the line, as well as below it, sad to say) |
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30 Dec 19 - 07:34 AM (#4025449) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Mr Red Mudcat's Twitter account, Jack, and the account was active and all, but had no posts about the problems that took Mudcat offline. Depends what is causing the problem. If it is hacking, or covert nefarious use of the 'Cat as a conduit for messages, Max may be in the hands of higher powers demanding to delete or track things. Or just clean up hacking attempts, or problems hit and the elves are partying. Or flamers out of control...... All in all I can handle withdrawal, no honest, I am strong................. Gimme COFFEE, NOW! |
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30 Dec 19 - 07:44 PM (#4025568) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu And let us hope that the Mudcat will be present in strength for New Year's Eve. |
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31 Dec 19 - 02:36 PM (#4025722) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel If the network has been turned over to Comcast (an internet pipeline) then we are subject to network neutrality intermittant death and mudcat requests must wait in line behind all the big money players. Like frog boiling, we could be eased into complacency at first with new wait times that could grow longer. But I don't know |
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01 Jan 20 - 05:33 AM (#4025775) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish Just now, trying to get in to https://mudcat.org/ , I got an error message about something to do with security, but I have got in to http://awe.mudcat.org I know going direct to one of the servers is deprecated, as I said above, but what else should we do when the official way in isn't working? |
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01 Jan 20 - 11:15 AM (#4025776) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish PS. As far as I can see no new posts have appeared since that one of mine a few hours ago. This indicates that no-one else has got in to post anything. |
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01 Jan 20 - 04:12 PM (#4025790) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu You and me both, Richard, this is the first time all day that the Mudcat came up online, and I've been trying for hours. |
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01 Jan 20 - 04:20 PM (#4025794) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel Obcession, habit, medicine??? Get over it. Many of us can simply read or not for years without posting. Let go a bit and feel free. Try thinking that posting is a job you have to do day in and out. What would you do if you had a few days off? You are making yourself anxious for no good reason. In the old days folks kept a journal. |
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01 Jan 20 - 07:58 PM (#4025840) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu I did have a few days off. I didn't like 'em. |
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04 Jan 20 - 03:14 PM (#4026307) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu The Mudcat keeps blinking on and off, thankfully it's on at the moment. |
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05 Jan 20 - 03:03 PM (#4026391) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu We're back, thank goodness, after hours and hours off. What a roller-coaster. |
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16 Feb 20 - 08:33 PM (#4034540) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Steve Shaw "...and Max rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And Max blessed the seventh day, and hallowed it; because that in it He rested from all His work which Max in creating had made." Well it is Sunday! (With apologies to God, who I hope has a sense of humour...) |
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17 Feb 20 - 07:56 AM (#4034584) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel I see a vast improvement |
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17 Feb 20 - 11:18 AM (#4034631) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: punkfolkrocker That was a nice relaxing Sunday away from all the mudcat misfits and weirdos.. Normal service now resumed... |
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19 Feb 20 - 03:06 PM (#4035061) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu gee, thanks for putting me with the misfits and weirdos ... |
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02 Apr 20 - 03:35 PM (#4043661) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish We seem to be having trouble again: only four threads above the line and two below with postings from today. Please Max, if you need more resources for your servers and/or your internet service, tell us. |
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02 Apr 20 - 04:38 PM (#4043675) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Doug Chadwick Perhaps the main server has been self-isolating. DC |
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02 Apr 20 - 04:42 PM (#4043677) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu We're back, it looks like. Don't know what went amiss, though. |
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02 Apr 20 - 07:37 PM (#4043694) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Rapparee Well, there are viruses out there. |
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02 Apr 20 - 07:54 PM (#4043695) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Steve Shaw And, let's be frank, we are not owed an explanation. Move on, chaps and chapesses. You just had a free day. Get over yourselves... |
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03 Apr 20 - 06:02 AM (#4043762) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish I think we should be told whether the problem was caused by lack of resource, in which case some of us would be pleased to throw in some more money, or some other cause for which money would not help. |
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03 Apr 20 - 06:22 AM (#4043765) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Jim Carroll "And, let's be frank, we are not owed an explanat" Not for this anyway :-) Jim |
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03 Mar 22 - 10:26 PM (#4138266) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu Thank goodness, we're back. Max had to intervene for this one, according to Mudcat's Facebook page posting. Thank you Max! |
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04 Mar 22 - 06:12 AM (#4138307) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Steve Shaw A day off is no bad thing. Unfortunately, it was too cold, windy and damp to do any gardening. |
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04 Mar 22 - 06:20 AM (#4138310) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel I wonder what Apache tomcat was about in the error page that was displayed. |
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04 Mar 22 - 06:52 AM (#4138315) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: DaveRo I wondered why it uses Tomcat at all. When it works it uses IIS |
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04 Mar 22 - 07:04 AM (#4138318) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Jon Freeman I think it's to do with ColdFusion that Mucat uses for .cfm pages here. The Tomcat connector will handle the communication between the IIS server and ColdFusion. See here. The ColdFusion server itself is written in Java but it doesn't seem to need a full Tomcat Web Server installation to run. I think... |
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04 Mar 22 - 07:42 AM (#4138322) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: DaveRo Ah! I never bothered to find out what cfm meant. I know that it used some obsolete web server - I forget the name - before introducing an IIS server (which was much faster) shortly before the SSL reconfiguration. Any idea what it's using as a database? Just curious. |
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04 Mar 22 - 08:18 AM (#4138328) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Jon Freeman Mudcat has always used ColdFusion but I think the web server used to be O'Reilly Website Pro. My guess at a database is MS SQL Server. |
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04 Mar 22 - 08:37 AM (#4138333) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Steve Shaw Has today become International Double Dutch Day? :-) |
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04 Mar 22 - 08:52 AM (#4138336) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: MaJoC the Filk And nerd shall speak hackish unto nerd, and great shall be the obfuscation thereof. |
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04 Mar 22 - 08:56 AM (#4138338) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel ha ha ha |
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04 Mar 22 - 09:03 AM (#4138340) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Jon Freeman Dave and I usually understand each other... I'd better shine some light on this for Steve. Most of my own web attempts used the (php) LAMP platform. :-) |
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04 Mar 22 - 09:29 AM (#4138344) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Nigel Parsons Steve: Has today become International Double Dutch Day? :-) Do I need to get out my skipping ropes? |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:11 PM (#4138405) Subject: BS: Welcome Back From: Nigel Parsons Welcome Back Mudcat. If pictures/gifs were allowed I would be posting Snoopy doing his 'Happy Dance' |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:12 PM (#4138406) Subject: RE: BS: Welcome Back From: keberoxu The thread below this says Long Night in Ukraine -- it's been a looooooong week without our Mudcat. |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:14 PM (#4138411) Subject: RE: BS: Welcome Back From: Sandra in Sydney now where was I a week ago, I'm sure I had something to post! |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:28 PM (#4138415) Subject: RE: BS: Welcome Back From: Stilly River Sage Look at the top and choose the number of days you want to view then select it. |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:40 PM (#4138416) Subject: RE: BS: Welcome Back From: Nigel Parsons Look at the top and choose the number of days you want to view then select it. At the moment it seems to be defaulting to 14 days which is the 'hiatus' plus a few days. |
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13 Mar 22 - 09:41 PM (#4138418) Subject: RE: BS: Welcome Back From: Steve Shaw Thank you, Nigel! |
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13 Mar 22 - 10:47 PM (#4138425) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage The current iteration of Mudcat is missing a few days because of a database problem. Something Max is working on. |
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14 Mar 22 - 04:41 AM (#4138430) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Sandra in Sydney good on Max! |
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14 Mar 22 - 06:52 AM (#4138437) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: SPB-Cooperator At some stage do we need Max to be biologically cloned in case he ever decides to call it a day? |
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14 Mar 22 - 02:06 PM (#4138471) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Donuel The ghost posts were magically delicious. |
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14 Mar 22 - 03:16 PM (#4138476) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Steve Gardham If it is known in advance that Mudcat is going to be offline for any period would it be possible to give us some warning above and below the line, and perhaps even an indication of how long it is likely to last? |
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14 Mar 22 - 03:24 PM (#4138478) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage Nope. We rarely have a heads-up unless it is a reboot that might take 30 minutes and he tries to do that during quieter times. It does mean that if there is a favorite thread you might want to occasionally click on "Printer Friendly" and save a version of it so the content can be pasted back if a chunk disappears again. |
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14 Mar 22 - 09:15 PM (#4138508) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: leeneia If you go to the top of this page and look on the right, you will see a yellow button with "Donate" on it sitting in solitary splendor. Clicking on it will probably help. |
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14 Mar 22 - 09:40 PM (#4138512) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: McGrath of Harlow It's a pain when the Cat goes down for a few days. The positive thing about it is, it can serve sometimes as a kind of ceasefire that let’s things cool down. |
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15 Mar 22 - 03:14 PM (#4138546) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Helen Is it likely that the database will be recovered or do we need to manually update threads where musical questions have been researched and answered? An example is Lyr Req: Gypsy Davey (Furey Brothers) where help was requested to decipher the lyrics of a song and a few of us worked together on it and arrived at a reasonably accurate result. Do we need to do the work again, or is it hopefully possible to retrieve it from the database? |
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15 Mar 22 - 05:11 PM (#4138555) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage I think the last data loss was a surprise, and it doesn't look like it's coming back. |
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15 Mar 22 - 06:00 PM (#4138559) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Helen Thanks Maggie, I think I'll find the lyrics again from a couple of versions and listen to the song and try to put it all back again, unless Joe kept a copy of the corrected version that he posted. |
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10 Apr 22 - 06:05 PM (#4138730) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage The Mudcat database has been restored to March 17, 2022, missing the end of the month and 2 weeks in April. And Max is still looking into how to do a new setup. My recommendation is to not fool around with the BS area, stuff may well be lost again. If you have music research to do, do your search and I suggest if you're posting to the a thread and get answers, click on the Printer Friendly tab and then save the whole thread as a PDF. That way you'll have your data on your local computer. |
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10 Apr 22 - 06:13 PM (#4138731) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: SPB-Cooperator I am wondering if removing troll posts is affecting the database indexing. |
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10 Apr 22 - 09:33 PM (#4138734) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Joe Offer Thanks, Max - It's good to have our old friend Mudcat back. -Joe- |
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10 Apr 22 - 09:39 PM (#4138735) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,leeneia Now that it has clicked with y'all how much the Mudcat means to you, go to the Home page and click on the yellow button that says "Donate." Of course if you have donated already, welcome to the Inner Golden Circle. |
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11 Apr 22 - 12:17 AM (#4138738) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: robomatic Thank you, Max, for working your magic and to anybody else who helped. May you and Mudcat have many more Springs together. |
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11 Apr 22 - 01:39 AM (#4138743) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Joe Offer We're still not 100 percent, so please be patient. If you get an error message, try again. -Joe- |
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11 Apr 22 - 01:56 AM (#4138745) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Sandra in Sydney thanks, Max, & Stilly & Joe & everyone |
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11 Apr 22 - 12:42 PM (#4138766) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: keberoxu ... and the search filter is set at sixty days. |
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12 Apr 22 - 03:34 PM (#4138885) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Richard Mellish I have donated in the past (distant past) and I am more than ready to donate again if it will help. But will it? |
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12 Apr 22 - 03:46 PM (#4138886) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: GUEST,Roger Very many thanks. |
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12 Apr 22 - 04:13 PM (#4138887) Subject: RE: Eh? (Mudcat offline for a few days) From: Stilly River Sage Yes it will help! |