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Sir Bob Davenport

06 Apr 20 - 03:08 AM (#4044279)
Subject: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman

Should he be knighted for his contributions to folk music


06 Apr 20 - 03:20 AM (#4044285)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Bonzo3legs

Rubbish


06 Apr 20 - 03:29 AM (#4044292)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll

He's not quite that bad Bozo :-)
Jim


06 Apr 20 - 03:45 AM (#4044298)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett

Some other possible early singers too ~ and still alive ~ but what about the source singers??

Ray


06 Apr 20 - 03:49 AM (#4044299)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll

Jeannie Robertson once summed up awards perfectly
"They gave me an MBE but I still have trouble being served in some shops"
Jim Caroll


06 Apr 20 - 03:59 AM (#4044303)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,DAVID NUTTALL

No need to be insulting towards Bob and his contributions ...civility costs nowt. Regarding SOURCE singers......they're O.K I suppose !!!! But maybe you prefer H P......higher pitched !!!!


06 Apr 20 - 04:25 AM (#4044311)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll

"civility costs nowt."
I would have nop problem with thet if bob extended the same courtesy to others - he tends not to
Jim


06 Apr 20 - 05:05 AM (#4044322)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Bonzo3legs

I'm pleased to agree with you Jim!!


06 Apr 20 - 05:35 AM (#4044329)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Gordon Jackson

I'm not a fan of the honours system, but if I were, I think Martin Carthy MBE should be at the head of the queue. And while we're at it, Richard Thompson OBE as well!


06 Apr 20 - 06:06 AM (#4044341)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim McLean

There's a whole shower that accepted "honours" including Jimmie Maxgregor and Archie Fisher.
Notably Hamish Henderson and Marion Blythman refused.


06 Apr 20 - 06:16 AM (#4044344)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Vic Smith

Knowing something of Bob's politics, I think that if he had been offered any sort of government award - especially one that had EMPIRE as part of it; he would have told them where to stuff it.

It reminds me of the day when Hamish Henderson was nominated for an award in the days of the Thatcher government. In protest of the Thatcher government's nuclear weapons policy, he publicly turned down an OBE.
This led to one of my favourite front page banner headlines. This is what The Scotsman made of it -

HAMISH HENDERSON NO B E


06 Apr 20 - 06:30 AM (#4044348)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Jim Carroll

Wouldn't it be great if, instead of this sort of lip-service, the establishment gave the respect due to many of the the recipients by supporting what they represented in more practical ways ?
Jim Carroll


06 Apr 20 - 06:36 AM (#4044349)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Dave Hanson

Martin Carthy already has the MBE.

Dave H


06 Apr 20 - 07:18 AM (#4044357)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST

Indeed. So if the ranking goes MBE, OBE, CBE, Knighthood, then giving Mr Davenport a knighthood suggests his contribution to folk music is several degrees of magnitude greater than Mr Carthy's; I think not!


06 Apr 20 - 07:58 AM (#4044365)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett

I would have thought a possible guideline could be the esteem of the EFDSS award system, firstly?

Should the likes of John Kirkpatrick, Martyn Whyndham ~ Read, Nick Jones, Dave Burland and others come into consideration ~ or will we simply see the crop of current young thruster trump the lot?

Ray


06 Apr 20 - 08:25 AM (#4044369)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman

wyndham read, nic jones.


06 Apr 20 - 08:52 AM (#4044380)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Hagman

Richard Thompson has an OBE....


06 Apr 20 - 03:34 PM (#4044489)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST

OBE, CBE ??- Bob would tell them where to put it- preferably sideways


06 Apr 20 - 04:20 PM (#4044499)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,big al whittle

Who cares what the establishment ahinks or says about our music?

A more positive step would be if we all stopped being bitchy about each other. If we could manage being courteous and respectful of each other's life's work - from Jasper Carrot to Bob Copper (all artistic endeavours with a folk club genesis) - maybe, just maybe,   the rest of the world would start to take us seriously.


06 Apr 20 - 04:24 PM (#4044501)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,Roger

Quite right Mr Whittle.


06 Apr 20 - 04:29 PM (#4044503)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: r.padgett

At least Hamish was nominated ~ reasons for refusal to accept were a different matter! Would he have accepted other than the fact that MT was PM?

Roy Bailey sent his back I believe

Gongs are nominated by individuals from all areas of UK followers and groups ~not sure what happens after that

Ray


06 Apr 20 - 04:39 PM (#4044506)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,big al whittle

A local headmistress got an OBE when I was a kid. For ages, I believed it stood for 'Orrible Bleedin' 'Edmistress - my sister was the source of this information


06 Apr 20 - 09:23 PM (#4044560)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey

Harry Cox was asked how he felt about being awarded the gold badge (as they still were in those days - they are now gold plated) of the EFDSS.
He said that was very nice but a small pension of 10 bob a week would be more useful!


07 Apr 20 - 03:50 AM (#4044591)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: The Sandman

Harry was right


07 Apr 20 - 06:37 AM (#4044627)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge

Bob now has the O.B.E.
   Taffy Thomas once said to me Bob's good pal Ted Poole had the O.B.E.- I was a bit surprised as Ted was not a likely candidate (!)

No, not the usual O.B.E       OVER BLOODY EIGHTY


07 Apr 20 - 06:52 AM (#4044633)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: GUEST,henryp

In 2000, Roy Bailey was appointed MBE, although he returned the award in 2006 in protest against British support of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.


07 Apr 20 - 07:14 AM (#4044634)
Subject: RE: Sir Bob Davenport
From: Dave Hanson

Brian McNeil wrote a tune in honour of Hamish Henderson, it's called, ' Hamish Hendersons Refusal '

Dave H