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08 May 20 - 07:06 PM (#4051333) Subject: Tune Add: New 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing I wrote this tune about four years ago as an experiment to see what I could do with 5/4 time. It's been gathering dust for some time so I decided to give it an airing. I didn't even have a name for it until my wife suggested 'Around The Garden' as I'd spent this morning filming the video there. So here's a link - CC welcome: Around The Garden |
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08 May 20 - 07:08 PM (#4051334) Subject: RE: Tune Add: New 5/4 tune From: Captain Swing |
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09 May 20 - 10:16 AM (#4051419) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Sheet music available here: Around The Garden |
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09 May 20 - 10:27 AM (#4051421) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: The Sandman Carthy likes tunes in 5/4 ,why not send it to him. well done |
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09 May 20 - 11:58 AM (#4051442) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks Sandman, I'll have to look into how best to contact him. |
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09 May 20 - 12:07 PM (#4051448) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: GUEST,.gargoyle Very, very nice. Sincerely, Gargoyle How would you count that? One, Two and, Three, Four and, Five |
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09 May 20 - 12:14 PM (#4051451) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks Gargoyle! |
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09 May 20 - 02:03 PM (#4051475) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Phil Cooper Just watched the video and like what you did arrangement-wise, well set up as a video, too. I never know what to call tunes that I make up, either. So, I name mine after some of our cats. |
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09 May 20 - 02:29 PM (#4051482) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks Phil. Yes, worse than naming kids! |
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09 May 20 - 05:03 PM (#4051514) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: leeneia I like it, Peter. It floats. Somehow I failed to see that you had made a video, so I made a MIDI and asked Joe to post it. It's not a wasted effort, because people who work with MIDI's might need to change the key or something. I think I'll share it with my more-talented friends who play flute and harp. Click to play (joeweb) |
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09 May 20 - 06:39 PM (#4051527) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thank you Leeneia, "It floats" is a really positive comment because that's exactly what I wanted it to do. Please do share it. I'd love to hear the interpretations that other musicians might make of it. |
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10 May 20 - 01:34 AM (#4051559) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: leeneia I did it for recorder and harp so the two lines would sound different. I hope Joe posts it soon. I tried dropping the lower part an octave, but the magic was gone. Isn't this it? -Joe- Click to play (joeweb) |
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10 May 20 - 05:46 AM (#4051577) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks Joe! |
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10 May 20 - 01:34 PM (#4051656) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: leeneia That's it. I doesn't start right away because I forget to remove the rests before the pick-up notes. Thanks, Joe. |
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10 May 20 - 07:35 PM (#4051712) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing I only tend to use two instrument voices on midis. I use piano to write and arrange as it is clear and easier to tell if harmonies are right. The other is flute which I use to tell if a tune flows well. I don't, for instance, use mandolin even on a mandolin part because there are so many audio effects in it that it clouds the clarity. |
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10 May 20 - 07:52 PM (#4051716) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Joe Offer Better to leave the rests in, I think. Noteworthy is not the only music program that deals with pickup notes with less than total grace. |
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10 May 20 - 08:12 PM (#4051717) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing You're right there Joe! By now you would have thought that computers would know what we are thinking ........... oh, erm? |
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11 May 20 - 12:51 PM (#4051832) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: leeneia "Leave the rests in." That's good to know. For those not used to MIDI and NWC, I will explain that the program has a useful tool called "automatic bar lines", which puts the bar lines into a piece one is transcribing. (Of course, you have to tell the program what the time signature is ahead of time.) Automatic Bar Lines is good at letting you know if you missed a note or put in an extra one. If a song begins with pick-up note(s), you have to put rests in front of them to fill up the first measure, otherwise Automatic Bar Lines just puts the pick-up notes in the first measure, thus screwing everything up royally. Chords fall in funny places and there are lots of ties, and notes go over bar lines when they shouldn't. When this happens, click the undo button immediately. Later when the song is all done and ready for public view, take the initial rests out. I failed to do that with Around the Garden, which is why my link has a moment of silence at first. |
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11 May 20 - 06:05 PM (#4051873) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Moments of silence are good Leeneia! |
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13 May 20 - 03:12 PM (#4052298) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: leeneia Sometimes. But if they make people think a song isn't there when it is, that's bad. |
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14 May 20 - 12:48 PM (#4052461) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: John P Nice job of making it "read" as a waltz, even though it's in 5. Very natural sounding. |
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14 May 20 - 01:59 PM (#4052476) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks John. I didn't know until a couple of days ago that there is a dance called a five-step waltz and tunes that fit the dance are also called five-step waltzes. |
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14 May 20 - 09:36 PM (#4052536) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: GUEST,.gargoyle I punched five-step waltzes into mud. Sincerely, Gargoyle NADA Perhaps, someone can point out a couple more examples of a 5/4 |
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15 May 20 - 05:42 AM (#4052565) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Before I wrote this tune a music teacher friend advised treating each bar as either 3/4 + 2/4 or vice-versa. I found it a good way to get a grip on the timing. I've dallied with 7/4 (3/4+4/4) but haven't produced anything worth playing yet. |
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15 May 20 - 11:04 AM (#4052613) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: GUEST,Starship "Perhaps, someone can point out a couple more examples of a 5/4" 'Take Five' by Brubeck, et.al. Captain Swing, you rock. |
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15 May 20 - 11:09 AM (#4052618) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: GUEST,Starship Further, I love when one of you :-) comes in at about 60 seconds in the video. Catchy number. Thank you for sharing it. |
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15 May 20 - 12:55 PM (#4052631) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks for the kind comments Starship. |
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15 May 20 - 01:31 PM (#4052635) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: GUEST,Starship You're welcome. I don't know whether you've seen this, but it pertains to various time signatures and gives examples. Thought you'd enjoy it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_works_in_unusual_time_signatures |
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15 May 20 - 02:54 PM (#4052640) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Newn 5/4 tune - tell me what you think! From: Captain Swing Thanks, I'll have a look. |