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New musical terminology

10 Oct 20 - 05:35 PM (#4075058)
Subject: Folklore: New Covid-age musical terminology
From: Tattie Bogle

Having had to study a bit of music theory and hence musical Italian terminology in the past, I do like a bit of "rubato" - very useful when playing slow airs or singing expressive songs, just for better phrasing and emphasis. Literally, it means "stolen time", but in practice means you stray from strict tempo.
In this world of music being done on Zoom sessions and Skype, a friend coined a new description for what happens when your internet connections slows you right down - then when it recovers, the next few notes or words come rattling out really fast. She called it "Zoombato" - love it!
Any other new words or phrases?


12 Oct 20 - 01:14 AM (#4075194)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

Not brand new, but it was new to me: outro, a few extra measures at the end of a song. Officially called a coda, but I've always thought coda was a stupid word. Sounds like a code of some sort.

The outro is the opposite of the intro.


12 Oct 20 - 09:42 AM (#4075236)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: GUEST,SqueezeMe

I first struck the word "outro" c/o "The Intro and the Outro" track from The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, so it has been around since at least 1967. Still cracks me up whenever I hear it. The thought of Princess Anne on sousaphone, not to mention Roy Rogers on Trigger....but I digress.


12 Oct 20 - 09:57 AM (#4075239)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: fat B****rd

...Adolph Hitler on vibes :-)


12 Oct 20 - 01:04 PM (#4075268)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

I read a detective story recently whose main character was a young woman who wrote lyrics for rock music. She sometimes referred to music that had a "tiara." I think this is rock music's term for a descant. I like it.

I edit music at home to play with my friends, and I've decided to avoid Italian terms.   We don't speak Italian, so why bother? If it's largo, I write "very slow", and so forth.
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Squeeze Me, thanks for the info. And what does c/o mean?


12 Oct 20 - 05:47 PM (#4075309)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: G-Force

c/o usually means 'care of'. I think (s)he means c/w, i.e. 'coupled with'.


12 Oct 20 - 05:51 PM (#4075310)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: G-Force

Ignore my previous post, I've just read the earlier one properly.


15 Oct 20 - 11:24 AM (#4075577)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: Tattie Bogle

Have certainly used outro during songwriting, and yes, it's been around a while, as has "middle eight" or "bridge".
I always thought if a descant as being a harmony that goes above the tune, tho one if my friends tends to use it to describe any harmony line. Tiara conveys it well!
And I guess the phenomenon I described in my OP, if happening on Skype, as it does regularly, called be called Skypato?


16 Oct 20 - 08:48 AM (#4075658)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: Mo the caller

A term I've only heard recently, on Zoom choir rehearsals. 'Underlay'
I assume it means fitting the syllables of difference parts to the notes. He could be talking about the carpet though.


16 Oct 20 - 12:21 PM (#4075672)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: PHJim

A couple from Pete Seeger, if we interpret the word "New" very loosely, are "hammer-on" and "pull-off" which first appeared in his 1948 book, "How To Play The Five-String Banjo".


17 Oct 20 - 12:34 PM (#4075764)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

I consider 1948 new. I suppose that Italian terms for tempo and expression were started in the 1700's, so 1948 is new.


18 Oct 20 - 08:42 AM (#4075830)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: Gordon Jackson

I thhink of 'key' as quite new, as I usually think in terms of modes.


18 Oct 20 - 12:59 PM (#4075849)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

Bass run and riff are new music terminology.


19 Oct 20 - 07:44 AM (#4075942)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: Tattie Bogle

Or even bass walkdown? I use it a lot on the piano: very effective!


20 Oct 20 - 12:44 PM (#4076160)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

Yes, I think that would qualify.


20 Oct 20 - 12:50 PM (#4076163)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: GUEST,The Man from UNCOOL

"coda" means tail in Italian/Latin. In that sense, it's perfectly proper an maeningful. After all, as an Anglo-centric, there's no problem your using English in your musical terms. But music is an international 'language', so it's got to be in SOMEone's, to be understood universally. Just learn it! You're on here because you adapted to Bill Gates' / Steve Job's imposing their terminology on you, which you learned (and, I sorta guess, derived SOME benefit from, or why are you here?), so just apply the same to the folks of long ago who were fine with using Italian as a lingua franca.


20 Oct 20 - 11:07 PM (#4076237)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: PHJim

How long have "slash chords" been around?

"m7b5" is sometimes called "half diminished".

Double stops with only a root and a 5 are called "power chords". That sounds relatively new.


21 Oct 20 - 02:21 PM (#4076320)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: leeneia

Guest, I am here because I love music and like people.

PHJim, I agree "power chords" seems new. So does "half diminished." I dunno about slash chords.


21 Oct 20 - 06:33 PM (#4076361)
Subject: RE: New musical terminology
From: Tattie Bogle

Slash chords are so much beloved by guitarists and piano accordionists. I can never remember which way round they go - and neither sometimes, I think can they! Is it bass note first/chord or the other way about. If in doubt, I just busk it (on piano!)