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29 Mar 21 - 04:48 PM (#4099851) Subject: Upcoming herring cd From: mg after quite a slow start, the herring cd is coming along nicely. There may or may not be a bit of room left..I really want one song in a Nordic language..I have PM'd Scarpi and he gets first dibs if he could get something traditional in right away. Might have a spot or two for backup insertion..I will have to be farther along before I know anything for sure, so except for Scarpi, it would be a bit of a gamble. Foreign (to me) language is a plus. Already have a great one in Dutch and another in Scots Gaelic. NO NO NO we can not have Shoals of Herring. Great song, perfect for topic, but it has copyrights. There can be ABSOLUTELY NO COPYRIGHT ISSUES. This will be my policy for any future CDs as well..not that I don't respect them, I just need the flexibility that they do not provide. Has to be specific to herring and you can't take a codcentric song and put herring words in it. I would also like pointers to any non-copyrighted pictures..there are great pictures but some will have words over them so there are specific things i am looking for, especially for back cover. Colorful, lots of sea and sky for putting text over. I don't want to put text over faces. Well, thanks. Coming to the beginning of the proximity of the home stretch. |
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29 Mar 21 - 10:52 PM (#4099897) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Helen Hi mg, I can't help you with song ideas. I just wanted to congratulate you on nearing completion of your CD. I'm sure you will let us know when it is finished. Helen |
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29 Mar 21 - 11:45 PM (#4099899) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: GUEST,Jon Bartlett Hey MG - what about THE TOFINO HERRING SEA SHANTY? By Bob Bossin - Brian Robertson sings it. Email me for the words if you've not already come across it. Jon |
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30 Mar 21 - 01:05 AM (#4099901) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg i absolutely love the song and we have brian robertson singing it on the cannery shed cd. but if you and rika have something already recorded, i probably have room. we are at the point either too many oh dear too few...that stage. some people not submitted that i still think are going to...at this point i can not absolutely guarantee anyone (except Scarpi who I pm'd but he might be busy with volcano) but I think there is probably room for a song or two. You never know if someone is going to come in with a six minute song..i have not timed songs yet...so if you have something in the hopper already I would try to use it. would really like something from western USA or Canada. Loving hands at home are OK for recording. Engineer can tighten up a bit. |
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30 Mar 21 - 01:07 AM (#4099902) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg I should say I don't repeat songs between cds.. so i meant a different song other than tofino shanty..it is a truly great song and i highly recommend people get it..i think it is one of brian's cds and maybe bob's. |
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30 Mar 21 - 02:02 AM (#4099904) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg if anyone can understand the scots dialect (or language as they say) and could translate some of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY079gfLUPE song. we have most of i think but the verse where she talks about her father and mother..mother carried the creel i think. had a scots fisherman listen to and he was not even sure of all of it...but a great little song. but if you want to listen to all the words that would be great..here is what we came up with. chorus harvest of herring keep calling me harvest of herring from out the sea sailing boats come and sailing boats go loaded with silver herring oh i remember when the herring boats came o'er the waters fae far and wide down to the toon the curers? would run? calling the gutters frae their fireside my memories run lang and so dear ilka place name was music to hear from stornaway island bara and wick ullapool oban shetland malaig my father sae weel my maither carrying the creel i went to the gutting at only 13 doon to the fallin?? at rain shine or meen (moon) valuable gems we'd always been told were rubies diamonds emeralds and gold but for us fishers the riches to be were shoals of herring from out the sea |
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31 Mar 21 - 04:29 PM (#4100170) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg Refresh |
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01 Apr 21 - 07:16 AM (#4100241) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: GUEST There was an old man who came from Kinsale. Sing abar-a-linn, sing abar-a-linn. He had a herring, a herring for sale. Sing abar-a-linn, sing abar-a-linn. Sing man from Kinslae, sing herring for sale. Sing abar-a-linn, sing abar-a-linn. And indeed I have more of my herring to sing. Sing abar-a-linn, sing abar-a-linn. TheHerring : Joe Heaney Nieuwe Haring (round) |
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01 Apr 21 - 08:00 AM (#4100249) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Georgiansilver Shoals of Herring Ewan McColl. |
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01 Apr 21 - 08:28 AM (#4100255) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: GUEST Al van den drogen haring.. Den Drogen Haring, Flemish version 't Kliekske |
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02 Apr 21 - 10:30 PM (#4100503) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg thanks. we have that herring's kinsale song recorded. we can not do shoals of herring due to copyright. am just about to listen to flemish song...does that have copyright or is it traditional? Is that your group? |
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02 Apr 21 - 11:00 PM (#4100504) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg love the haring song in flemish. would love to include it if you recorded it and there is no copyright. |
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03 Apr 21 - 03:48 AM (#4100527) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: GUEST 'Al van den drogen haring' was published in 1930 by E.de Cousemaker i Chant populaires des Flamands de France. He collected it in Dunkirk/Duinkerken, There's no copyright on it so you can have a go at it if you like. |
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03 Apr 21 - 07:57 AM (#4100567) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Long Firm Freddie Wynken, Blynken, and Nod, a poem written by Eugene Field and published in 1889: Wynken, Blynken, and Nod one night sailed off in a wooden shoe — Sailed on a river of crystal light, into a sea of dew. "Where are you going, and what do you wish?" the old moon asked the three. "We have come to fish for the herring fish that live in this beautiful sea; Nets of silver and gold have we!" said Wynken, Blynken, and Nod. It's been set to music a number of times; perhaps the Wellerman Shanty tune could be adapted... LFF |
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03 Apr 21 - 09:45 AM (#4100580) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Reinhard A German song about an opportunistic herring (Harung is an old version of the German word Hering): IN EINEN HARUNG JUNG UND SCHLANK Lyrics: Author unknown, from Belgium (Flemish) Music: 1856 from Flanders In einen Harung, jung und schlank, zwo, drei, vier, ss-ta-ta, ti-ra-la-la der auf dem Meeresgrunde schwamm zwo, drei, vier, ss-ta-ta, ti-ra-la-la verliebte sich, o Wunder ne olle Flunder, ’ne olle Flunder verliebte sich, o Wunder ne olle Flunder Der Harung sprach: Du bist verrückt du bist mir viel zu plattgedrückt rutsch mir den Buckel runter du olle Flunder, du olle Flunder rutsch mir den Buckel runter du olle Flunder Da stieß die Flunder auf den Grund wo sie ’nen goldnen Rubel fund ein Goldstück von zehn Rubel o welch ein Jubel, o welch ein Jubel ein Goldstück von zehn Rubel, o welch ein Jubel Da war die olle Schrulle reich da nahm der Harung sie sogleich denn so ein alter Harung der hat Erfahrung, der hat Erfahrung denn so ein alter Harung der hat Erfahrung Und die Moral von der Geschicht verlieb dich in nen Harung nicht denn so ein alter Harung der hat Erfahrung, der hat Erfahrung denn so ein alter Harung der hat Erfahrung |
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03 Apr 21 - 11:45 AM (#4100604) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Charley Noble A favorite verse: Dm--------------------C A man in the forest once asked of me, --------F---------------C------Dm-----C--Dm “How many straw-ber-ries grow in the sea?” --------------------------C I answered this fella, as I thought good, -----F--------------C----------Dm------C--Dm “As many as red herr-ings grow in the wood.” Cheerily, Charlie Ipcar |
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03 Apr 21 - 01:43 PM (#4100620) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg we are doing winken blinken and nod to the tune of something called dutch lullaby on youtube. winken etc. was originally called dutch lullaby. |
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04 Apr 21 - 12:08 AM (#4100678) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg i think at this point i must declare it full up. Please get in touch with me though if you have something in the hopper or that you can easily record. At this point I have not timed the songs and I don't have everything in and there could be something last minute opening up. Jon Bartlett, you have first dibs now if you have something from west coast but there is a possibility (small) that I could not squeeze it in. |
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12 Apr 21 - 08:10 AM (#4101963) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: Jack Campin Herring-related pictures from Edinburgh |
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13 Apr 21 - 04:27 PM (#4102120) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg Can anyone sing in Yiddish and want to sing a Yiddish song of 2-3 minutes? It is an old vaudeville song and in public domain. It is important as an example of how important herring is for food and it is a cute song, but should not be camped up. My local people keep saying they can't learn it in two weeks. That is a foreign thought to me. I have offered to someone and have not heard and I can not wait. there is a very small chance there won't be room so I would ask someone to sing it with and without the final verse. OK to record on I phone etc. if sound is good. |
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11 Jun 21 - 10:44 PM (#4109763) Subject: RE: Upcoming herring cd (from mg) From: mg if someone could be so kind as to change the header to Herring CD available that would be great. i don't have in my hands right now. But it has been shipped so i should get it in a few days. Price structure: $10 (add shipping for each) if you promise to learn two songs. (and only have to learn one if it is the one in Scots Gaelic). $12 if you promise to learn one song. $15 if zero songs. Shipping is $2.50 in US. I am going to hold off on other places for a bit as even to canada it gets horribly expensive and i have some sort of online ways to buy it through cd baby etc. 22 songs in all including two spoken word...some songs are trad and some are brand new for the cd. i guarantee that you will love at least half if you like maritime music. Some beautiful songs and beautiful voices. You will probably recognize many of the artists. Many aspects of herring community other than shipwrecks...just pm me. i can take paypal but prefer checks. |
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14 Jun 21 - 03:50 PM (#4110160) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: Nick Is there even a few seconds hint of how good it is? |
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14 Jun 21 - 04:12 PM (#4110164) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: Steve Gardham If you're including notes I'm pretty certain the earliest extant version of the Herring's Head is Scottish, c1830s. Can give you reference if needed. If you're self producing I wouldn't worry too much about copyright unless you're planning on making big bucks. Lots of people have recorded Shoals of Herring without being chased for copyright. 'Come all ye fisher lasses' is also MacColl I believe. |
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16 Jun 21 - 11:47 PM (#4110437) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: mg too late for advice now, although i appreciate it. notes are just very short due to so many songs. as for song snippets..might happen later. it is supposed to be available online later but i haven't sorted it out yet. take my word for it...songs are very pretty for the most part and voices are very very pretty, especially some of the ladies. i like pretty songs sung by pretty voices. you honestly can't go wrong if you live in states at least. postage is awfully expensive to other countries. just pm me for more info. I will take checks and probably paypal..i should have it tomorrow if ups delivers to the right address..they keep not doing that with some new drivers. |
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16 Jun 21 - 11:51 PM (#4110438) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: Joe Offer MG, is this available? I'm hot to buy!! |
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16 Jun 21 - 11:56 PM (#4110440) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: mg i should have it in hand tomorrow. i will pm you with my mailing address if you can do the same. i am 99% sure you will like it. |
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16 Jun 21 - 11:59 PM (#4110441) Subject: RE: Herring CD Available (from mg) From: Joe Offer I'm sure I will. I have some of your recordings, and I like them all. |
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22 Jun 21 - 07:52 PM (#4111065) Subject: RE: Herring our Joy - CD Available (from mg) From: Joe Offer So, I splurged and got all of the CDs MG had available:
Come All Ye Bold Raftsmen with hearts stout and true For Those in Peril on the Sea Codfish in the Spring of the Year Song of the Salmon (Spring Run) Song of the Salmon (Fall Run) -Joe- |
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23 Jun 21 - 02:39 AM (#4111088) Subject: RE: Herring our Joy - CD Available (from mg) From: mg cool. i also have a couple i have to make copies of. i still have enough copyright payments to do this. one is called cannery shed and one is called an gorta mor/the potato famine. both are really good but copyright issues will eventually be a problem if i sell too many. that is why i will not work with copyrights any more. gets too complicated and keeps me from allowing people to make copies on their own, especially overseas where it is so expensive to mail..although i will be having stuff on cd baby. i totally respect everyone's opinions and policies on copyrights, but i must refrain from including songs that have them. also, i have ordered more but i have basically sold out the first run of the herring cd..not a big order. i only order so many at a time and then reorder. more expensive but easier overall. |
