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13 May 21 - 01:22 PM (#4105932) Subject: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,Paul Streater Hi. Sangschule (community song group in West Lothian) received a request via Facebook for information about a song with this title, which the sender tells us she had heard performed in Linlithgow in 2001. It definitely isn't the group she thought it was (Sangsters). Any ideas out there about whose song it might be, or even better, its lyrics? Thanks in advance. |
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14 May 21 - 06:20 AM (#4106011) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,Derrick This might be what she is looking for. This seems to be the only song about Edinburgh Waverly that came up in a search. https://genius.com/Dissenter-edinburgh-waverley-lyrics |
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14 May 21 - 10:26 AM (#4106024) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin https://genius.com/Dissenter-edinburgh-waverley-lyrics |
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14 May 21 - 11:06 AM (#4106035) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,# I was not able to come up with anything about the song. I hope Derrick's find, which Jack was kind enough to clickify, is it. If not, then perhaps the OP could ask for more information or a line from the song. Was it heard in a sing-around, session, main stage, etc. Composition of the group: male, female, mixture, folkish, rockish, etc. I Googled Linlithgow with various phrases, etc., and there are a few things on YouTube, but none I listened to that meet the OP's parameters. |
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14 May 21 - 11:35 AM (#4106041) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin I don't think that link can have been it. Not the sort of thing I can imagine anyone at Linlithgow FC singing. Tattie Bogle has been there a lot - ideas? |
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14 May 21 - 12:13 PM (#4106044) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,Derrick Thanks for clickifying the link Jack it never seems to work for me. From the clues in the request it sounds like it could be a song written by a local singer which would probably never made it on to the internet, The only likely chance is that someone with a connection to the club might recall it. |
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14 May 21 - 01:26 PM (#4106052) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST Thanks to all for the ideas. I do know the given date was after Linlithgow Folk Club finished up, as the festival was running by that time. It may have been a local singer, and I'll ask around. I know a few locals with an good line in parody songs. Will report back if I find anything! |
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14 May 21 - 02:20 PM (#4106058) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST More info - I thought I should try a few supplementary questions, and our enquirer has come up with all she can put together of the song. Verse: At Dalgetty Bay there isnae a station But you kin alight at a railway halt. Then Inverkeithing and thru the tunnel. You'll smell the Forth and taste the salt Chorus: Cheap day return tae Embra Waverley, Rin noo, the trains near awa. Off tae the hotbed o vice and white slavery. Innocent Fifers there vanish like snaw. This is now more intriguing as I think I have heard that chorus - it's qute memorable! |
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14 May 21 - 03:28 PM (#4106061) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin Fifers? Gifford Lind at Dunfermline FC? Christine Kydd from somewhere up there? |
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14 May 21 - 09:08 PM (#4106088) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Tattie Bogle Yes, it rings a very distant bell with me, but I have done various searches of discographies of singers I thought might have done it, but no positives as yet. (Watt Nicoll, Rab Noakes, Peter Nardini, for example). Might be worth exploring any Sangschule archives to see who was tutoring at the time, though I know that sadly some are no longer with us. Steve Inglis? Scott Davies? George Machray? Andy Shanks? QAnd yes, worth trying Gifford Lind or others in the Makars group. |
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15 May 21 - 03:21 AM (#4106103) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST Doesn't or didn't Ewan McVicar bide in Linlithgow? Maybe he has information... |
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15 May 21 - 04:03 AM (#4106106) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin I don't recall Ewan visiting Linlithgow FC. He's in the north-east Highlands now. |
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15 May 21 - 04:48 AM (#4106111) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST Thanks all - I'll do some following up on these suggestions. Definitely not Sangschule-related; we went through and rationalised the extensive song archives early in lockdown! |
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15 May 21 - 10:06 AM (#4106137) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,# I have spent about three hours looking for this song and come up empty. That's no guarantee it's not out there somewhere, but if it is I can't locate it. Incidentally, Dalgety has only one t in it (although that makes no difference to searches). FYI. |
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15 May 21 - 11:47 AM (#4106147) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST "Dalgety has only one t in it" Yes, I did know that, but left spellings, punctuation, etc. as received :) I have found someone else who has a faint recollection of it, so nice to know I'm not following a false scent! |
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15 May 21 - 12:37 PM (#4106157) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin Reads like something John Watt could have done in one of his Kingdom of Fife Nationalist moments. |
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15 May 21 - 12:39 PM (#4106158) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST,# If you get this one, please make sure it gets to this site. That would be cool :-) |
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16 May 21 - 05:40 PM (#4106293) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Tattie Bogle Jack Campin, Ewan McVicar was an enormous help to us at Linlithgow Folk Festival on many occasions: often did the children’s workshop for us, while he was still living in said town. (That was after the former Linlithgow Folk Club folded.) |
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16 May 21 - 06:27 PM (#4106305) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Johnny J Another possibility for information might be Bruce Davies. I don't know if he looks in here or not but he sings a very wide range of songs in the "entertaining mould". |
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18 May 21 - 06:17 AM (#4106484) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST With thanks to Scott Murray and Gifford Lind! The song appeared on the New Makars Trust’s first album ‘Between the Tay and the Forth’. Cheap Day Return tae Embra Waverley (Performed and written by Deryck Foulner) Chorus Cheap day return tae Embra Waverley, Run noo, the train's near awa. Off tae the hotbed o vice and white slavery. Innocent Fifers there vanish like snaw. Trev's oor maister at Aberdour Central Rising to work half through the night Short sleeves and bow-tie in snell midwinter, Amidst the flooers he's quite a sight. Bay o Dalgety hasnae a station But you can alight at a railway halt. Then Inverkeithing and through a tunnel, You'll smell the Firth and taste the salt. Iron girders brewed in foundries, Latticed lights agin the sky, Linkin lines join two Queensferrys, Whose highness means we're flying high. Over the frontier folks look different You'll need guile tae Market Hay. Then under the ramparts o the Castle And journey's end at Waverley. Last week Sodom, tomorra Gomorra, Visiting Reekie in between, Lots o wives to entertain ye, Show you good times on the scene. |
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18 May 21 - 06:44 AM (#4106487) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: GUEST CORRECTION: V4 Gyle, not guile. With thanks to Scott Murray and Gifford Lind! The song appeared on the New Makars Trust’s first album ‘Between the Tay and the Forth’. Cheap Day Return tae Embra Waverley (Performed and written by Deryck Foulner) Chorus Cheap day return tae Embra Waverley, Run noo, the train's near awa. Off tae the hotbed o vice and white slavery. Innocent Fifers there vanish like snaw. Trev's oor maister at Aberdour Central Rising to work half through the night Short sleeves and bow-tie in snell midwinter, Amidst the flooers he's quite a sight. Bay o Dalgety hasnae a station But you can alight at a railway halt. Then Inverkeithing and through a tunnel, You'll smell the Firth and taste the salt. Iron girders brewed in foundries, Latticed lights agin the sky, Linkin lines join two Queensferrys, Whose highness means we're flying high. Over the frontier folks look different You'll need Gyle tae Market Hay. Then under the ramparts o the Castle And journey's end at Waverley. Last week Sodom, tomorra Gomorra, Visiting Reekie in between, Lots o wives to entertain ye, Show you good times on the scene. |
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19 May 21 - 05:29 AM (#4106640) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Tattie Bogle Result! Does anyone have the tune? |
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19 May 21 - 07:03 AM (#4106642) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Jack Campin Aberdour Central? Was there once another station there? The bit about the flowers is that their platform used to have floral decorations everywhere and won the "best-kept station platform in Britain" league for years. |
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19 May 21 - 06:15 PM (#4106714) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song 'Day Return tae Embra Waverley' From: Tattie Bogle It is a lovely station, Jack, though not very central as the main street goes! A bit of poetic licence, maybe? |