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01 Nov 21 - 10:04 AM (#4124868) Subject: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Pat deVerse #save The Cobblestone I’m sure that many musicians, poets, singers and reciters who frequent this site may be aware that Dublin’s foremost traditional music pub, the Cobblestone, in Smithfield, Dublin 7, is under threat as the owners of the site plan to build a large hotel right beside the premises which will both engulf the present Cobblestone and take away about two thirds of its present area. Protest marches have been held in Dublin over a number of weeks, and letters of objection have been lodged with Dublin City Council to try to prevent the owners from obtaining planning permission for the site. There is also an online petition that we would urge all supporters of Irish traditional music to sign. https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/save-the-cobblestone?fbclid=IwAR10XOTdcf_EvBjHTc9XuNO-KzSb_ELZW4MgIIjhzLvzMcbBq3DucyrPTLE. Many thanks to all . |
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01 Nov 21 - 10:17 AM (#4124870) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Steve Shaw Signed! |
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01 Nov 21 - 11:42 AM (#4124882) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Raggytash Me too! |
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02 Nov 21 - 04:01 AM (#4124957) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Ernest signed... btw: who harassed you Raggytash (getting my coat)? |
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02 Nov 21 - 05:57 AM (#4124964) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Steve Shaw You can only object to the planning proposal if you cough up €20?? What!! |
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02 Nov 21 - 08:46 PM (#4125024) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: BrooklynJay Signed. The Mrs signed a few weeks ago. Keeping our fingers crossed. Jay |
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02 Nov 21 - 10:46 PM (#4125031) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: GUEST,.gargoyle Music is not about "A location". Move on.... Sincerely, Gargoyle or get therapy |
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03 Nov 21 - 05:35 AM (#4125042) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Steve Shaw Nonsense on so many levels. |
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03 Nov 21 - 12:19 PM (#4125078) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: GUEST,scotch bonnet That's stupid, Gargoyle. A lot of music would never have survived without specific 'locations' like the Blaxhall Ship in Suffolk, the 'Favourite' in London or O'Donoghues in Dublin! They were centres for great music of its type, and although they may now be less important (or ruined) there are current equivalents- the COBBLESTIONE is one & needs to survive the vandals in Dail Eireann |
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03 Nov 21 - 03:39 PM (#4125097) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch It's typically a lack of listeners… not music. Certain forms like calypso, punk, disco & classical are more location dependent than others, not always for the same reasons. Really big-time venues rise above any one (sub)genre. Working shanties – Changing locations in good fashion is the litteral definition of seafaring. Not a lot of that music heard these days. Pirate opera – moves seamlessly from '50-'60s urban coffee house to video game and the interweb. Still going strong! As long as there are people there will be music but a commercial venue (producer) needs customers to pay the rent. |
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05 Nov 21 - 04:35 AM (#4125225) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Rusty Dobro Signed! The Cobblestone is a magical place! |
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05 Nov 21 - 04:52 PM (#4125277) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: mayomick "You can only object to the planning proposal if you cough up €20?? What!!" It used to cost next to nothing up to about twenty years ago,Steve. Scammers started lodging spurious objections and then demanding money to lift them. A wonder it hasn't caught on in the UK. |
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05 Nov 21 - 05:12 PM (#4125283) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Steve Shaw There's an outrageous planning application round here for a new crematorium. The proposal is for it to be on the coast, so the catchment would be 180 degrees of the area as opposed to the usual 360 degrees :-). There are other issues aplenty... Hundreds of us objected (in detail) on the Cornwall Council website. Not one of us paid a penny to do so. Charging people to object sounds incredibly undemocratic to me... |
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06 Nov 21 - 06:17 AM (#4125329) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: GUEST,Modette From yesterday's 'Irish Times'. 700 objections lodged against pub plans |
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06 Nov 21 - 11:38 AM (#4125351) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: Steve Shaw Excellent! |
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30 Nov 21 - 06:34 AM (#4127617) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: FreddyHeadey 29 Nov 2021 Hotel Planning Application for Cobblestone Site Refused The Council said the hotel ‘would be overbearing and significantly out of scale and character with the prevailing architectural context, and would represent substantial over-development of this highly sensitive site.’ more https://journalofmusic.com/news/proposed-development-would-set-undesirable-precedent-hotel-planning-application-cobblestone |
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30 Nov 21 - 06:34 AM (#4127618) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: FreddyHeadey 29 Nov 2021 Hotel Planning Application for Cobblestone Site Refused The Council said the hotel ‘would be overbearing and significantly out of scale and character with the prevailing architectural context, and would represent substantial over-development of this highly sensitive site.’ more https://journalofmusic.com/news/proposed-development-would-set-undesirable-precedent-hotel-planning-application-cobblestone |
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30 Nov 21 - 10:40 AM (#4127647) Subject: RE: #SAVETHECOBBLESTONE From: GUEST This gives an idea of the Cobblestone vibe: https://www.independent.ie/videos/dublin-is-dying-but-not-dead-yet-dublin-according-to-folk-musician-john-francis-flynn-41088865.html |