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Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend

12 Jun 22 - 04:19 AM (#4144089)
Subject: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Arnold

Hi,
does anyone know the names of the 1st and 2nd tune of The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friends (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M4gI_kBoMs). The last is Jingle Bells. Thanks.


12 Jun 22 - 05:02 AM (#4144094)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: Mr Red

She will be at the Ely Festival 10-12 July. I hope to be there. If no answers below, I could ask, maybe.


12 Jun 22 - 06:02 AM (#4144104)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

I'm terrible with polka names. The second was recorded by "Patrick Street" as "The Newmarket", but there are other polkas with the same name. It seems to be associated with melodeon player Terry "Cuz" Teahan/Teehan, and is sometimes named after him. If no one else comes up with a name for the first, I'll start looking. I have heard it before.
You need to create a link to connect to Youtube videos - this should work :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M4gI_kBoMs


12 Jun 22 - 06:25 AM (#4144106)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Derrick

The tune before Jingle Bells is Camp Town Races,The first tune sounds slightly familiar,the second less so,the balance of instruments in the recording makes a clear tune difficult to make out.


12 Jun 22 - 09:42 AM (#4144195)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Derrick

The set consists of,
The Newmarket Polka,
Egan's Polka,
Jingle Bells


12 Jun 22 - 10:22 AM (#4144198)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: gillymor

very cool


12 Jun 22 - 10:59 AM (#4144204)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Derrick

Whoops,missed Camp Town Races at number 3 in the Set list.


12 Jun 22 - 04:27 PM (#4144241)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

The first AND second polkas were recorded by "Patrick Street" on their 3rd LP/CD "Irish Times". The collective title for the set was "The Newmarket Polkas".


13 Jun 22 - 05:18 AM (#4144300)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Derrick

After listening again to the recording, which like many Irish session sets with a large number of different instruments, make a clear tune difficult to hear, and further research, I agree with guest at 4-27 12th June.The first three tunes are the Newmarket polkas 1,2,and 3 the other two tunes being Camp Town Races and Jingle Bells.
A great set of tunes, I'd like to hear it with a better balance of sound to make the tunes clearer.
All three of the polkas can be found on you tube played on solo instruments where they can be heard with clarity


16 Jun 22 - 03:04 PM (#4144596)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: clueless don

A minority opinion: Although I recognize the "Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah" passage, I'm not ready to call that third tune The Camptown Races.

A different setting of the Camptown Races? Hmmm.


16 Jun 22 - 03:09 PM (#4144597)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: clueless don

or maybe I'm wrong. Again.


17 Jun 22 - 06:27 AM (#4144637)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

A Co. Kerry setting of the "Campdown Races" [sic].
There's a setting - #346, pp 201 - in Johnny O'Leary's collection of tunes "Johnny O'Leary of Sliabh Luachra".
Accompanying notes say this :
"Johnny learned this tune from Jack Sweeney. It is quite far from the American version of "The Campdown Races". The link between the two versions is the version on the recent recording of Padraig O'Keeffe".
Johnny O'Leary was recorded playing his version on the 19th January 1992.


17 Jun 22 - 07:08 AM (#4144639)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Derrick

Campdown races as mentioned by guest can be heard on youtube at the address below.It is as stated quite far from the original American version, not unusual with folk tunes.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYO1RcBkAOI


17 Jun 22 - 07:18 AM (#4144641)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

It is not an usual tune in a polka version, I have recorded versions of Patrick Kelly and a duet of Elizabeth Crotty and Kathleen Harrington, both from the 50s/60s so it was doing the rounds in South West Clare at the time


17 Jun 22 - 10:33 AM (#4144658)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

Wasn't it also mentioned in "Blazing Saddles" ?


17 Jun 22 - 11:20 AM (#4144659)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

Says my aul one to your all one, it's a versatile tune for all sort of occasions.


I changed the first occurrence of "aul" but there are two in the line. Should both words be aul, not all? ---mudelf


17 Jun 22 - 11:21 AM (#4144660)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: GUEST

'aul one' cursed autocorrect


17 Jun 22 - 01:00 PM (#4144663)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: Manitas_at_home

That's Brighton Camp although there a similarities.


17 Jun 22 - 03:11 PM (#4144671)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Kerry Polkas-Sharon Shannon & Friend
From: clueless don

Sounds like Kerry musicians took the tune and made it their own. I was keying in on the "quite far from the American version" aspect.