|
13 Sep 22 - 08:08 AM (#4152304) Subject: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Mo the caller A tune we played in a session at Whitby Folk Week set me searching the internet. I'm never seen anything quite like this before a cross between Sword and Morris for 1 couple I used to go Set Dancing and was told that the term Set Dance was used both to mean a square derived from quadrilles and a 'set' (fixed) step dance. When looking for the tune, this site said Metre/Rythm Set Dance. Is this a term that has meaning to Irish Musicians? I've seen various step dances and broom dances performed in intervals of evenings of Set Dancing, but nothing like this. Is it often danced. Are there more like it. It seems odd that it's a couple dance, the display dances I've seen have been solo (Irish step, Morris jig) or sets (Morris, Longsword, Rapper). How old is it? Anyone know anything about it. |
|
13 Sep 22 - 08:30 AM (#4152306) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Manitas_at_home It looks as if the dance is something made up during lockdown. Hawksword once managed to produce a 4 person longsword dance but that was the smallest number that would allow the production of a viable lock. |
|
13 Sep 22 - 08:33 AM (#4152307) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Manitas_at_home BTW, even though the tune is presented in O'Neills as a traditional I've always felt it to sound more like a an 18th century assembly room dance tune. |
|
13 Sep 22 - 09:55 AM (#4152319) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Mo the caller It does have bits from various traditions. |
|
14 Sep 22 - 04:48 PM (#4152482) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Mo the caller Yes they didn't make a lock, but one of the Sword dances I tried had couples rotating under swords joined in pairs. |
|
14 Sep 22 - 04:50 PM (#4152483) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Mo the caller Does the description of Rhythm / Metre as 'Set Dance' mean anything to an Irish Musician? |
|
15 Sep 22 - 01:28 AM (#4152511) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Manitas_at_home I'm not an Irish musician but I play Irish music. Apart from the meaning of a quadrille-like group dance, set dance can refer to a fixed set of steps in step-dancing such as Jockey to the Fair, the Job of Journeywork. Some of the tunes for these dances depart from the standard rhythms and may have extra parts or extra notes (Jockey to the Fair is an example). I don't know if there was ever a set dance to Tom Tully but this is why the tune would have been categorised as a set dance. |
|
17 Sep 22 - 03:27 PM (#4152775) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Mo the caller Yes, that was my understanding of the term as a dancer (who only plays when no-one can hear). So does that mean that if you see a tune so categorised you need to know the dance to know how to play it? |
|
19 Sep 22 - 02:17 PM (#4153010) Subject: RE: unusual dance? Tom Tulley From: Long Firm Freddie From looking at Mike Finn's other videos, it appears that Mike and Ann are members of Foxs Morris, a very fine Border Morris side. I suspect that the Border style is the main inspiration for the dance. From the wide range of dance styles posted they are obviously into dance in its many varied forms in a big way! LFF |