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11 May 23 - 07:14 PM (#4172013) Subject: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Absolutely not my kind of music on show, ever. And I certainly haven't been watching these pesky semifinals. But I can't help meself. I watch the bloody thing on Saturday night every year, get all animated about who should win and what's utter crap, etc., and absolutely love to slag off Graham e**ing Norton. One year, we even had a party-with-sweepstake on it. Ye gods. But I'll be there on Saturday night, spag bol on knee, bottle of red to hand (essential for getting through it - the corkscrew will be on standby just in case a second bottle is called for...) Wouldn't miss it for the world. It brings people together, it's in Liverpool fer chrissake, one of the world's friendliest and most inclusive cities (with the greatest football club in the history of humanity) and it's in honour of Ukraine. Be there or be square! |
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12 May 23 - 03:04 AM (#4172026) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Senoufou We wanted to watch the ten o'clock news on BBC 1, but had to endure for the SECOND time the selection of the final ten for 10 mins before the News started. I have enjoyed some of the old songs from past Eurovisions, eg Bucks Fizz 'Making Your Mind Up' and Abba 'Waterloo'. Tut tut, I must try to stop living in the past! |
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12 May 23 - 03:29 AM (#4172029) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome I'll be there but I'm on antibiotics so, for the firt time ever, it will be a sober one! Maybe I will see how bad it really is :-D |
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12 May 23 - 04:01 AM (#4172032) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: G-Force Well it certainly brings our family together. None of us can stand it at any price. But thanks for not starting this as a music thread. |
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12 May 23 - 11:59 AM (#4172058) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Backwoodsman I heard a discussion on BBC2 this morning where it was said that the UK was lucky to be presenting the ESC because, if it wasn’t for the war in Ukraine, it would have been presented from Ukraine. I beg to differ. If there was no war in Ukraine, the ESC would still be being held in the UK because, without the huge sympathy/solidarity vote, the (IMHO, pretty poor) Ukraine entry wouldn’t have won last year, Sam Ryder’s UK entry would have taken the top spot. All IMHO, of course, and YMMV. |
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12 May 23 - 12:56 PM (#4172064) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Mebbe. Let's hope it goes well (as it's Liverpool l'm sure it will!), and either see it as a whole bunch of fun or just don't bother with it! |
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12 May 23 - 01:03 PM (#4172065) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Backwoodsman I’ll be doing the same as you, Steve - spag Bol on knee, but without the wine (Mrs Backwoodsperson will probably swig enough for both of us!). |
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12 May 23 - 02:13 PM (#4172072) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Suggested list of food and drink for the event 1. Austria: Schnitzel 2. Portugal: Port 3. Switzerland: Cheese 4. Poland : Vodka 5. Serbia: Rakija 6. France: Crepes 7. Cyprus: Kebabs 8. Spain: Rioja 9. Sweden: More vodka 10. Albania: Baklava 11. Italy: Pizza or any of Steve's wines :-) 12. Estonia: Beer 13. Finland: Reindeer 14. Czechia: Budweiser Budvar 15. Australia: Vegimite 16. Belgium: Trappist beer 17. Armenia: Brandy 18. Moldova: Stuffed cabbage 19. Ukraine: Vodka with a kick :-) 20. Norway: Fish 21. Germany: Beer 22. Lithuania: Fried bread (popular beer snack) ... 23. Israel: Falafel 24. Slovenia: Domaci rum 25. Croatia: Rakia 26. United Kingdom: Beer and chips :-D |
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13 May 23 - 04:44 AM (#4172112) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Acorn4 More about theatre and politics than music these days? |
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13 May 23 - 06:13 AM (#4172118) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome The viewers votes have always been poitical but you would expect allies to support each other. Apart from the UK and Ireland seemingly! Other than that, no, it is pretty non-partisan. As to the performances, well, yes. The performance of a song can be of equal importance to the song itself in terms of enjoyment. Why else have live performances if not for the visual impact as well as the music? If you want to hear perfect music, listen to a rcording. If you want all senses stimulating, go to a live performance. Horses for courses! |
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13 May 23 - 06:48 AM (#4172120) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Well Greece gives Cyprus douze and Cyprus gives Greece douze. If that's supposed to be a political statement it's a pretty poor one and hardly one that will stick in the memory, let alone start or end a war. It's far more likely to make both countries minor laughing stocks than anything. Let it be. Horses for courses indeed! No-one is forcing anyone else to turn the telly on! |
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13 May 23 - 07:00 AM (#4172123) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Sandra in Sydney ahem, a little typo, Dave 15. Australia: Vegimite (VEGEMITE) |
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13 May 23 - 08:51 AM (#4172128) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Sorry Sandra! (It would actually be spelled Marmite though :-) ) |
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13 May 23 - 09:51 AM (#4172130) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Who cares how you spell it? Just chuck it in the bin! :-) |
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13 May 23 - 02:31 PM (#4172140) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome See! Steve and I do disagree on major topics. Marmite is the food of the Gods :-) |
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13 May 23 - 03:39 PM (#4172142) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Austria so far. Mind you, I did enjoy the semi-porn in the Poland entry.... |
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13 May 23 - 03:50 PM (#4172143) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Oi, Cyprus, eh? Heard worse! |
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13 May 23 - 04:02 PM (#4172144) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Is this the Swedish singer or is it Queen Boadicea with claws? |
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13 May 23 - 04:05 PM (#4172145) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Is it just me or is every song angst-ridden? Boom-bang-a-bang! |
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13 May 23 - 04:10 PM (#4172146) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw So now we have a hunky Italian man wearing a very silly vest and singing in a high-pitched voice while two blokes behind him repeatedly jump to their deaths... |
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13 May 23 - 04:20 PM (#4172147) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Bonkers Finland! |
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13 May 23 - 04:28 PM (#4172148) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Any Aussie bloke song that doesn't include the words "G'day, cobber, you old bastard" doesn't do it for me... |
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13 May 23 - 04:49 PM (#4172149) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome The Moldovan gnome and unicorns were good. I thought the Polish one was Britki Spearsov |
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13 May 23 - 04:52 PM (#4172150) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Norway, nice and funky with a jiggy rhythm. I liked it! |
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13 May 23 - 04:55 PM (#4172151) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Germany, Erling Harland with a massive lunch packet but being attacked by a green octopus... |
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13 May 23 - 05:03 PM (#4172153) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Lithuania, she scrubbed up nicely, great voice, and one of the few performers who actually looked like she was enjoying herself. I liked it! |
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13 May 23 - 05:03 PM (#4172154) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome The Lithuanian lass was very pretty but I didn't rate the song. The Israeli song is about the Moldovan unicorns! |
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13 May 23 - 05:04 PM (#4172155) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Israel, Spicepersons... |
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13 May 23 - 05:07 PM (#4172156) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Slovenian silliness, solid Eurovision! |
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13 May 23 - 05:11 PM (#4172158) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Croatia, I'm questioning my own sanity here... |
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13 May 23 - 05:14 PM (#4172159) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Did Borat produce that one? |
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13 May 23 - 05:16 PM (#4172160) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome The fashion for talons has spread to the UK. I hope Mae doesn't pick her nose... |
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13 May 23 - 05:29 PM (#4172162) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Listening through the recap and Czechia stood out for me. I think it was the harmonies! |
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13 May 23 - 05:33 PM (#4172163) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Eeeeee. Our Sam's good inty |
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13 May 23 - 05:56 PM (#4172164) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Yeah, Sam, best song in it! If I was going to vote it might be for Norway (though I won't vote). I liked the Czech one too. And Cyprus. Good stuff. I liked our one a lot though the sound somehow didn't project it well on the telly. Loads of really good performances that I'll be happy to forget after tonight! ;-). Good show, good show! So Liverpool produced two great football teams, eh? To quote Bill Shankly (aka God), that's right: Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves! |
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13 May 23 - 06:00 PM (#4172165) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Eeeee. That rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone brought a tear to this old stoney eye. Specially when they panned to Kyiv and the youth choir:-) |
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13 May 23 - 06:05 PM (#4172166) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Norway were very good but I thought it was like a Tim Burton movie with music by Danny Elfman. I kept imagining the Nightmare that stole Christmas! |
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13 May 23 - 06:19 PM (#4172167) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome 'ere, seeing as it's tomorrow in Australia do they already know the result? :-D |
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13 May 23 - 06:42 PM (#4172169) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Did I conflate 2 movies earlier? |
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13 May 23 - 07:05 PM (#4172171) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw Just goes to show: I can't bloody pick 'em fer toffee... :-( |
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13 May 23 - 07:12 PM (#4172174) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome I enjoyed it. Must admit that I looked up Amoxicillin and found it was OK with alcohol so opened a very nice bottle of Morrisons best Verdeca. Didn't drink it all though. Mrs G had at least 1 glass :-) |
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13 May 23 - 08:56 PM (#4172178) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Raggytash Sorry guys but I have to say it .............. you two are just sad bastards ................................. Eurovision !!!! |
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14 May 23 - 03:35 AM (#4172190) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Another one that proves there is no cabal of "usual suspects". We disagree on important important subjects such as Marmite and Eurovision :-) Anyway you're only saying that because Ireland didn't qualify again :-D |
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14 May 23 - 03:36 AM (#4172191) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome On a more serious note, 2 weekends ago I was watching Hawkwind live on stage. You couldn't actually see the band as they were shrouded in darkness and mist. The music was loud and raw with, as you could guess, many special effects. The crowd were bouncing and full of mud (see Northern Kin thread). I couldn't make out many lyrics. The light show was absolutely spectacular. It was then I realised that entertainment is not just music. I love folk clubs and close up interaction with a good performer. I also love spectacle such as Hawkwind and, yes, Eurovision. There is room in my head for both of these and many more! |
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14 May 23 - 04:08 AM (#4172196) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome BTW, may the winning entry have had something to do with making sure the final was in Sweden on the 50th anniversary of ABBA winning with Waterloo? Not that I'm cynical or suggesting people may have voted tactically :-) |
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14 May 23 - 05:53 AM (#4172198) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw "Sad bastards??" But we're not! The song contest may well be unalloyed rubbish in some eyes (not mine), but it brings nations together in harmony and inclusivity in a troubled world, and I think Liverpool did a great job. As for Sweden, they take the song contest very seriously, more so than other countries, a bit over the top maybe, which is probably why they're successful. |
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14 May 23 - 07:12 AM (#4172199) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Raggytash "but it brings nations together in harmony and inclusivity in a troubled world" What a load of bollocks, it is petty minded and often rigged voting across the board. |
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14 May 23 - 07:19 AM (#4172200) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome Yebbut that could be part of the entertainment and millions still enjoy it! :-D |
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14 May 23 - 08:49 AM (#4172202) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw How is it petty-minded?! |
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14 May 23 - 10:00 AM (#4172206) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome 50! |
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15 May 23 - 03:49 AM (#4172238) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: BobL "Rigged voting"? Where have we heard that before? And without a shred of evidence either. |
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15 May 23 - 05:33 AM (#4172243) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome I don't think Trump was involved in Eurovision :-D |
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15 May 23 - 07:01 AM (#4172251) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Steve Shaw I don't think bloc(k) voting is the same thing at all as rigged voting. In any case, the result is decided not just by national juries any more, but by public voting too, 50:50. |
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11 May 24 - 06:22 AM (#4202352) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: The Sandman why do people watch,what is the appeal |
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11 May 24 - 07:57 AM (#4202353) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Dave the Gnome It's on tonight and I shall be glued to the box :-) After Doctor Who of course! |
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11 May 24 - 08:42 AM (#4202358) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Bill D I never see any of it, of course... but it popped up in my news feed this morning.. big controversy |
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11 May 24 - 10:51 AM (#4202366) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: MaJoC the Filk > why do people watch, what is the appeal Herself will also be glued to that channel*, largely for the commentary. The late great Terry Wogan, who used to do the Eurovision commentary, gave it the level of respect it deserves, but admitted he could only do it when three sheets to the wind; Graham Norton has inherited the mantle in full measure, though possibly not the case of poitín. I'll look forward to going outside afterwards to see if the aurora's visible. * Sigh, but I've seen that episode of the Bletchely Circle before. |
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11 May 24 - 03:25 PM (#4202382) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: MaJoC the Filk > Herself will also be glued to that channel Correction: Herself will be watching the programme, but will follow house tradition in getting thoroughly wogan in the process. That's why you'll always find me in the kitchen at parties. |
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12 May 24 - 02:35 PM (#4202429) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: BobL The Eurovision is a major reason I'm glad I don't have a telly... |
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12 May 24 - 03:08 PM (#4202431) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: gillymor Never seen it and don't know much about it but if Planxty participated in it it can't be all bad. |
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13 May 24 - 01:20 AM (#4202442) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Backwoodsman ”The Eurovision is a major reason I'm glad I don't have a telly...” What very strange ‘logic’! Even if you had a telly, it’s not compulsory to watch the Eurovision Song Contest or, for that matter, any other programme, regardless of how heavily-advertised it might be. The viewer always has the option to watch something else, or nothing at all. |
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13 May 24 - 03:23 AM (#4202445) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: The Sandman I agree with Bobl |
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13 May 24 - 03:36 AM (#4202446) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Backwoodsman Ah, a pair of Luddites in our midst. |
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13 May 24 - 10:08 AM (#4202452) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: The Sandman derogatory a person opposed to new technology or ways of working. "a small-minded Luddite resisting progress" 2. historical a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woollen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16). I use technology, I am selective in my use. I do not consider watching eurovision on television or even having a television progress. I can get all information I want, all news I want, without a television. HA HA how funny, watching or having a television regarded as progress, what an outdated view, reminiscent of 1953. |
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13 May 24 - 10:46 AM (#4202454) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: Backwoodsman You don’t get humour, do you? Your loss. |
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14 May 24 - 03:39 AM (#4202491) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: The Sandman now this IS funny, a link to Hancocks ashes https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b04mgxtgBackwoodsman it is customary when you are attempting humour to put a smiley emoticon |
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14 May 24 - 03:41 AM (#4202492) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: The Sandman joe offer, the link is perfectly safe it is bbbradio4 drama |
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14 May 24 - 05:39 AM (#4202494) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: skarpi Eurovision, well the music has almost one beat, and its, búmma búmma búmma búmma búmma búmma and now and the bamm bamm. Once Eurovision had style, today no style just for fun. All the best Skarpi |
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20 May 24 - 05:45 PM (#4202742) Subject: RE: BS: Damned Eurovision... From: robomatic The thing about Eurovision for Americans is that at least it isn't "The Masked Singer". |