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Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song

07 Jul 23 - 09:31 AM (#4176280)
Subject: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: GUEST,Dennis Littlehales

Hello I'm looking for some information on a folk song I have recorded.

The recording is of John Hendley in 1978 at the Lion O' Morfe in Birdgenorth.

The song is labelled as the 'Apartment song', though I can track down absolutely nothing about it. I would very much appreciate any information on its name/ origin/ writer.

I don't think I can post the full song here but some of the lyrics are:

Opening: "I said don't ever think your heart is up for sale..."

Chorus: "And I guess I fell in love with her apartment, I really couldn't stop myself at all, all day long I wanted to lie right inside of her, apartment on the (Rouex?) evermore."

Thank you in advance mudcat!


07 Jul 23 - 02:38 PM (#4176308)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Joe Offer

Hi, Dennis -
I wasn't able to come up with anything right away. Keep checking this thread to see if anything comes up. Sometimes, it can take years to get a good response, sometimes mere minutes.
Why don't you think you can post the whole song here? The more information you give us, the more we may be able to help.

Welcome to Mudcat!

Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor


07 Jul 23 - 03:18 PM (#4176312)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Stilly River Sage

That is an intriguing set of clues you've given us already, but I agree with Joe - transcribe and post as many of the lyrics you can get here.

Is the place perhaps "Bridgenorth" rather than "Birdgenorth"?

There seems to be (according to YouTube) a different up-and-coming singer songwriter named John Hendley that will tend to come to the top in any searches; do you know how old your Hendley is, or his active years?


08 Jul 23 - 06:24 AM (#4176349)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: GUEST,RJM

c heck with PERFOMING RIGHTS SOCIETY


08 Jul 23 - 06:43 AM (#4176353)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Richard Mellish

Pace Dick, I can't see the PERFOMING RIGHTS SOCIETY being much concerned about reproduction of words on here as distinct from performance. Copyright might be more of an issue, but it is generally permissible to quote small extracts, and I'm not aware of anyone getting excited about complete song texts* being quoted on here.

* Personally I dislike the term "lyrics", but perhaps that's just me.


08 Jul 23 - 11:47 AM (#4176371)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Stilly River Sage

Mudcat is a place where these things are discussed and researched. The only way we are going to be able to research this song is if as many of the words as possible are shared, and Dick knows that, I'm sure he has participated in parsing the meaning (and correcting mis-heard lyrics) many times here.

Telling us if it is sung to a familiar tune might also help.


08 Jul 23 - 12:18 PM (#4176375)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Big Al Whittle

It was written by the late great Roger Brooks. I put it on my album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nNDMZ8A2VU


08 Jul 23 - 12:28 PM (#4176376)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Big Al Whittle

obtainable from

https://kidmenthal.co.uk/roger_brooks/index.php


08 Jul 23 - 12:42 PM (#4176377)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Stilly River Sage

Excellent!

The text printed here would help these US ears understand more of the words as it is sung.


08 Jul 23 - 12:46 PM (#4176378)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Big Al Whittle

Sunjay keeps the Roger Brooks website. Stree Riot by Roger was a notoriouslydifficult guitar piece, which Sunjay plays perfectly.

Roger had a tough time of it. His playing was at its peak in the great traddy/contemporary conflict. So his genius wasn't recognised in his lifetime sadly.


https://rogerbrooks.webs.com/


08 Jul 23 - 01:17 PM (#4176381)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Stilly River Sage

At https://rogerbrooks.webs.com/lyrics.htm it's first up in this list.


08 Jul 23 - 03:41 PM (#4176389)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: FreddyHeadey

It's amazing how much more Google finds when there a few crucial words to add to the search.
Live video of Roger Brooks singing The Apartment Song in 2001.
https://youtu.be/hkL2CShtmXs


08 Jul 23 - 07:51 PM (#4176405)
Subject: ADD: The Apartment Song (Roger Brooks)
From: Joe Offer

THE APARTMENT SONG
(Roger Brooks)

Verse 1
They said don't ever think that your heart is up for sale,
Because you'll end up,
Paying them to take it away,
They said take a look at those around you,
Now distraught and pale,
And you'll see there's nothing more we need to say,

CHORUS
But I guess I fell in love with her apartment,
There was no way I could stop myself at all,
All day long I wanted to lie right inside of her,
Apartment on the rue excellement,

Verse 2
I got there on the hour and the beauty was so cruel,
There were candles glowing by the side of her bed,
And she lay there so frail and precious,
Just like a stolen jewel,
And I began to see how feet can turn to lead,

CHORUS
But I guess I fell in love with her apartment,
There was no way I could stop myself at all,
All day long I wanted to lie right inside of her,
Apartment on the rue excellement,

Verse 3
Now I travel 'round and I always seem so far from home,
And the only routines just movin' along,
But gladly would I change the ways compelling me to rome,
If I had a place like that to call my home,

CHORUS
But I guess I fell in love with her apartment,
There was no way I could stop myself at all,
All day long I wanted to lie right inside of her,
Apartment on the rue excellement

https://youtu.be/hkL2CShtmXs


08 Jul 23 - 10:11 PM (#4176408)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Stilly River Sage

I would say that Dennis got a pretty darned good result for the question he posted 36 hours ago!


09 Jul 23 - 04:46 PM (#4176462)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: GUEST

I am glad that the song has been found.
To clear up a misunderstanding, I was suggesting the song could be traced through performing rights society. SONGWRITERS resident in the UK generally register their songs, so if you have a title the song can be traced, that was what i meant by check with PRS.


09 Jul 23 - 06:20 PM (#4176472)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: Big Al Whittle

My version of Roger's song


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLJqUsQuSw


10 Jul 23 - 04:32 AM (#4176494)
Subject: RE: Origins: Staffordshire folk 'Apartment' song
From: GUEST,Dennis Littlehales

Wow. What a result! Thank you all, especially Big Al for recognising it.