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27 Oct 23 - 12:32 PM (#4186306) Subject: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: Lighter 30,000 casualties, 100,000 refugees. Russian involvement. Threats of ethnic "cleansing." Has anyone else noticed? https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/nagorno-karabakh-conflict My point is that this is the world we live in. Sometimes you can only fight fire with fire. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Like in Afghanistan. My own fund of outrage was used up fifty years ago. Aggressors laugh at the words "Give Peace a chance." |
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27 Oct 23 - 01:24 PM (#4186308) Subject: RE: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: Steve Shaw "Give peace a chance" is just naive. Peace can't do stuff on its own just by our forgetting everything bad that's gone on. It has to be worked on, and it's hard work. |
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27 Oct 23 - 03:13 PM (#4186305) Subject: RE: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: Donuel When nations like Australia, New Zealand, and others ban military assault rifles there are no mass killings by assault weapons. Mass shootings in America have happened in every possible venue except one. Shootings have occured near this exception but not at that exception. The exception is a sporting event with 25 thousand people or more. If I can imagine that scenario anyone can. Half a dozen shooters with 600 high-capacity magazines could take down thousands of people. Will that tragic scene bring about an assault weapon ban again in America? Or would just banning assault rifles now be a better solution? Small acts of peace add up. |
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27 Oct 23 - 03:42 PM (#4186304) Subject: RE: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: robomatic I have noticed. I used to live in an Armenian part of Boston, meaning only that there are many Armenians in the suburb in which I lived, and I developed a longstanding sympathy with the horrible Armenian experience in Turkey. The independent Armenia seemed to be a happy development of the disintegration of the Soviet state. I was disappointed in the recent war there, and what seemed to me the mal support of Russia, Turkey, and Israel. Unfortunately, I don't have personal Armenian friends in Alaska to give me their takes, and I am woefully uneducated in the real history and any facts that would help me develop a better opinion. And to be fair, I know even less about the Azeris. |
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29 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM (#4186309) Subject: RE: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: keberoxu Thank you for this heads-up. I missed it, and I have known for years about the Armenian genocide and resulting diaspora. |
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30 Oct 23 - 02:23 PM (#4186307) Subject: RE: BS: Nagorno-Karabakh From: Jack Campin The ethnic cleansing here happened in the 1990s. Armenia (with Russian support) obliterated the Azeri population of Nagorno-Karabagh. This round is Azerbaijan getting its expropriated territory back now that Russia doesn't want to be Armenia's sugar daddy any more. They are going about it with grossly excessive brutality but Armenia has no moral high ground here. |