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15 Jun 24 - 10:31 AM (#4203948) Subject: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong wome From: GUEST,Gazza2 Heard some great songs at the Sheffield Sessions at Easter 2024.At the songs for strong women I heard one which had the refrain " This is the land of smoke and fire that Victoria made" and another with the refrain " Still we persisted like the women at Versailles ". If anyone knows who sang them or indeed who wrote them I'd love to hear them again! |
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15 Jun 24 - 04:16 PM (#4203959) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: GUEST,Marilla Hi Gazza, The second one is "Les Tricateuses" or "We Persisted" written by Jenny Reid of Sheffield. Currently recorded on Rosie Hood's latest album, and soon to be released on Marilla Homes's new album. The first one I know from Bob & Gill Berry's album Bittersweet. Chorus is: This is the land of smoke and of fire, This is the land of freeman and slave Smokestack and mill rising higher and higher This is the land that Victoria made Can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, will have a look when I get home :) |
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15 Jun 24 - 04:23 PM (#4203961) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: GUEST,RA England's Glory seems to be the title. There's an audio clip on the linked website too. |
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15 Jun 24 - 04:32 PM (#4203962) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: Reinhard "England's Glory" by John Prosser. It's on John Prosser and Paul Vile's 2016 album "The Girl Always Wins" and as Marilla said, on Bob & Gill Berry's 2006 album "Bittersweet". But both sing in the chorus "This is the age ...", not "This is the land ...". |
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15 Jun 24 - 04:39 PM (#4203963) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: Reinhard Sorry, John Prosser and Paul Vile's *2018* album according to their Bandcamp page. |
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16 Jun 24 - 02:05 PM (#4204002) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: GUEST,Gazza2 Thank you RA and Reinhard. I'll try to get hold of those albums. And thank you Marilla .. I'm fairly sure you co-ran the excellent session I went to. I'm also trying to track down a couple who sat in the corner seat at that session and sang a song dedicated to their daughter and another song "Selly Oak"? Both excellent songs!! |
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18 Jun 24 - 01:00 PM (#4204099) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: GUEST,Marilla Hi Gazza, Yes, I did co-host that session. Glad you enjoyed it! The couple will have been Jaki Booth and Andy Parsons. They run a few sessions round Sheffield, and will be found most Saturday afternoons at Fagans. Thanks to the others for the better info on England's Glory! :) |
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18 Jun 24 - 01:43 PM (#4204102) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: FreddyHeadey Andy Parsons singing Sally’s Oak ,,, a fable about how Selly Oak got its name. How does one song draw together Sally, Malala and all the brilliant women of Birmingham? https://brimmin.wordpress.com/2022/04/11/sallys-oak-an-homage-to-strong-brummie-women/ Wikipedia The supposed tradition that the original oak was associated with a witch named Sarah or Sally is without foundation, and is likely to have arisen as a means of explaining what may have been a variant and local pronunciation of the name as 'Sally' Oak. Indeed, the name is actually recorded as Sally Oak on a canal map produced by John Snape in 1789. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selly_Oak#The_'Oak'_tree ,,, & Selly Oak is recorded in the Domesday Book as Escelie. The name Selly is derived from variants of "scelf-lei" or shelf-meadow, that is, pasture land on a shelf or terrace of land, probably the glacial deposits formed after the creation and later dispersal of Lake Harrison during the Quaternary period. Another source for the name comes from the Old English 'sele' meaning a building, or a hall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selly_Oak#Toponymy |
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20 Jun 24 - 10:46 AM (#4204191) Subject: RE: Sheffield Sessions songs for strong women - author From: GUEST,Gazza2 Thank you Marilla and Freddy Headey! Just trying to sort out some chords for England's Glory and my summer will be complete!! |