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24 Jul 24 - 07:26 AM (#4205960) Subject: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: GUEST,Martin Banks I am seeking the lyrics to a version of Gossip Joan that includes the following line: `Yon duck quack quack has swallowed a snail now isn't that a wonder" I have found a version of the song, but the one I am after is a little more `down to earth' in nature. Thanks in advance |
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24 Jul 24 - 08:30 AM (#4205961) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: Reinhard Gossip John at The Yorkshire Garland Group. |
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24 Jul 24 - 01:41 PM (#4205970) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: Reinhard There is now a page for Gossip Joan on Mainly Norfolk with lyrics by the Holme Valley Beagles (Will Noble's are nearly the same), Regal Slip and Barry Dransfield. |
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25 Jul 24 - 07:18 AM (#4206020) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: r.padgett yon duck has swallowed a snail, quack, quack now isn't that a wonder? X2 and it's all come out'n it tail, it's tail it's tail it's tai e ~ a ~ ail ~ ail and split its arse a sunder Gossip John (Joan) x2 Hand actions tail wiggle little finger arse ~ wide clap of hands |
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25 Jul 24 - 04:50 PM (#4206047) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: GUEST,Nick Dow You will find an interesting variant in 'Pills to Purge Melancholy'. I would not try to decipher the tune though, it makes very little sense. Pills is available in PDF on line. |
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29 Jul 24 - 05:28 PM (#4206232) Subject: Origins: Gossip Joan From: Joe Offer Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song: Gossip Joan (Neighbor Jones)DESCRIPTION: "Good morrow, Gossip Joan, Where have you been a-walking? I have for you, for you for you, for you for you... a budget full of wonders." The wonders are listed: A cow with a calf that cannot eat hay, a duck which died from eating a snailAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1720 (Pills to Purge Melancholy) KEYWORDS: talltale animal FOUND IN: Britain(England) US(SE) REFERENCES (9 citations): Chappell-PopularMusicOfTheOldenTime, pp. 672-673, "Good Morrow, Gossip Joan" (1 text, 1 tune) Chappell/Wooldridge-OldEnglishPopularMusic II, p. 98, "Good Morrow, Gossip Joan" (1 text, 1 tune) Harding-FolkSongsOfLancashire, p. 34, "Gossip Joan" (1 text, 1 tune) Reeves/Sharp-TheIdiomOfThePeople 37, "Gossip Joan" (2 texts) Reeves-TheEverlastingCircle 54, "Gossip Joan" (1 text) Williams-FolkSongsOfTheUpperThames, pp. 41-42, "Gossip Joan" (1 text) (also Williams-Wiltshire-WSRO Ox 262) Brown/Belden/Hudson-FrankCBrownCollectionNCFolklore3 144, "Neighbour Jones" (1 text) Scott-EnglishSongBook, pp. 38-39, "Good Morrow, Gossip Joan" (1 short text, 1 tune; the text may not be original) ADDITIONAL: Wit and Mirth, or, Pills to Purge Melancholy (London, 1720 ("Digitized by Google")), Vol VI, pp. 315-316, "The Woman's Complaint to Her Neighbor" (1 text, 1 tune) Roud #1039 CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Martin Said To His Man" (theme) NOTES [72 words]: Williams-Wiltshire-WSRO has one verse not in Williams-FolkSongsOfTheUpperThames ("My duck has swallowed a snail ...."). - BS The Civil War general D. R. Jones (David Rumph Jones, 1825-1863), who eventually came to command a division in the Army of Northern Virginia, was known by the nickname "Neighbor Jones." Since none of the sources I checked explained how he came by the nickname, I do not know if it is related to this song. - RBW Last updated in version 6.7 File: Br3144 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2024 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. The Woman's Complaint to her Neighbour. GOOD morrow Gossip Joan, Where have you been a Walking? I have for you at Home, A Budget full of Talking, Gossip Joan. My Sparrow's flown away, And will no more come to me; I've broke a Glass to Day, The Price will quite undo me, Gossip Joan. 316I've lost a Harry Groat, Was left me by my Granny; I cannot find it out, I've search'd in every Cranny, Gossip Joan. My Goose has laid away, I know not what's the Reason; My Hen has hatch'd to Day, A Week before the Season, Gossip Joan. I've lost my Wedding-Ring, That was made of Silver gilt; I had Drink would please a King, And the whorish Cat has spill'd it, Gossip Joan. My Duck has eat a Snail, And is not that a Wonder; The HORNS bud out at Tail, And have split her Rump asunder, Gossip Joan. My Pocket is cut off, That was full of Sugar-candy; I cannot stop my Cough, Without a Gill of Brandy, Gossip Joan. O I am sick at Heart, Therefore pray give me some Ginger; I cannot Sneeze or Fart, Therefore pray put in Finger, Gossip Joan. O pitty, pitty me, Or I shall go Distracted; I have cry'd 'till I can't see, To think how things are acted, Gossip Joan. Let's to the Ale-house go, And wash down all my Sorrow; My Griefs you there shall know, And we'll meet again to morrow, Gossip Joan. from Wit and Mirth: or Pills to Purge Melancholy, Edited by Thomas D'Urfey https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33404/33404-h/33404-h.htm#page315 |
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30 Jul 24 - 03:17 AM (#4206245) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Gossip Joan From: r.padgett Not too many examples of this song have been found It is an example of a group action as in Holme Valley Tradition used to do Ernest Yates, Barry Bridgwater, Will Noble and John Cocking with a leader singing the verses and the choruses sung with facial and hand expressions to make an entertaining if crude/rude performance ~ there is only one version I have seen and heard printed in one of the early EFDSS books Ray |
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30 Jul 24 - 02:08 PM (#4206286) Subject: RE: Origins: Gossip Joan From: Steve Gardham Hi Ray There's another version in Hudleston Collection in the book. Did you see my emails about including some of our YG songs in our next book in the Marrowbones Series? |
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31 Jul 24 - 07:24 AM (#4206324) Subject: RE: Origins: Gossip Joan From: r.padgett I will have a look, Steve All for updates of the traditional songs. not seen any emails Ray |
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31 Jul 24 - 04:06 PM (#4206347) Subject: RE: Origins: Gossip Joan From: Steve Gardham I'll pm you. |
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01 Aug 24 - 08:25 AM (#4206376) Subject: RE: Origins: Gossip Joan From: r.padgett Gossip John does appear (3 verses) in Hudleston collection ~ one "d" Ray |