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29 Feb 00 - 02:53 PM (#186914) Subject: What is a pibroch From: GUEST,TRC Can anyone tell me? Thanks. |
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29 Feb 00 - 03:01 PM (#186917) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Clinton Hammond2 Mmmm... The Big Music... think of pibrochs as the 'Classical' music for pipes... Pibrochs (and one other?) are called Big Music, while jigs, reels, ect ect are refered to as Small Music... Gotta love a good Pibroch! {~`
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29 Feb 00 - 03:03 PM (#186922) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sabra A form of music for the Scottish bagpipes involving elaborate variations on a theme, typically of martial or funerary character. Well, thats the OED definition anyway...says it comes from the Scots Gaelic word "piobaireachd", the term for the art of piping. I knew it had somethin to do with the pipes. hmm...maybe too formal a response to be much help? |
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29 Feb 00 - 03:18 PM (#186934) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: pastorpest Clinton's answer is a good one! A "pibroch" is a theme with a set of variations, usually martial, but also including dirges for the bagpipes. The fourth stanza of Lochnagarr, lyric by Lord Byron who was Scot on his mother's side, reads: Ill-starr'd though brave, did no visions foreboding/ Tell you that fate had forsaken your cause?/ Ah, were you destined to die at Culloden,/ Victory crown'd not your fall with applause:/ Still were you happy in death's early slumber,/ You rest with your clan in the caves of Braemar; /The pibroch resounds to the piper's loud number,/ Your deeds on the echoes of dark Lochnaggar. |
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29 Feb 00 - 03:33 PM (#186948) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Amos Also, in New England, (pronounced with a long 'o'), a large soft mallet used for opening kendall's failed apple pies |
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29 Feb 00 - 03:33 PM (#186950) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: pastorpest Sabra, I am never going to draw against you! You would be sure to shoot first! |
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29 Feb 00 - 04:26 PM (#186977) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha Right definition, but pib's are usually reserved for contests because of the length. Only the judges can understand and differentiate all the variations (and other pipers, of course). Is the "small music" "mhor-brach"(sic)? |
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29 Feb 00 - 04:33 PM (#186983) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Art Thieme It's a largish Jewish meat-filled ravioliish thing that is cooked in and served in a chickenish based soup. Art |
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29 Feb 00 - 04:42 PM (#186993) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: MMario I thought it was one of those hollowed out log thingies type boats from the bayous.... |
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29 Feb 00 - 05:13 PM (#187015) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha Art, I think you have that confused with Brox and cream cheese. |
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29 Feb 00 - 06:09 PM (#187048) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Ah, yes...piobaireachd! Does anyone remember the "Amazing Piobaireachd Naming Contest" I staged last year? No one knew what a piobaireachd was back then! Check out the threads "The Amazing Piobaireachd Naming Contest" and "FYI:More on Those Pesky Piobaireachds" for more information that I supplied that other obviously found of no interest. BTW I have written an 8-minute piobaireachd of my own....and it's still unnamed! As I said before "PIOBAIREACHDS REACHD!" --Mbo |
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29 Feb 00 - 06:20 PM (#187054) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: catspaw49 Maybe no one gave a shit Meebo. Spaw |
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29 Feb 00 - 07:04 PM (#187086) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Well, that was a little harsh, wasn't it? Like anyone cares about Hammered Dulcimers? --Mbo |
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29 Feb 00 - 07:11 PM (#187089) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: catspaw49 Most people don't....so what's your point? Spaw |
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29 Feb 00 - 07:28 PM (#187096) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Well I guess we're even then! Nobody cares about either of our stuff! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! --Mbo |
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29 Feb 00 - 07:50 PM (#187103) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha I LIKE PIOBAIREACHDS! I dont claim to be able to hear all the variations, but whenever I manage to get to Highland Games, I try hard to listen to the pipe contest. I will admit that I like Irish pipes just a tad better than Highland, but any pipes are fine with me! (spaw, don't say it!)I like hammered dulcimers too, for some things, but they are so "fairy tinkly" on a lot of stuff that I don't listen a lot. SO THERE! |
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29 Feb 00 - 07:56 PM (#187107) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Thanks Sorcha! Mbo=1, Spaw=0! --Mbo |
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29 Feb 00 - 08:28 PM (#187119) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Art Thieme Yes, they're very much like kreplochs--but even slower and with more grace notes (but not as much salt). Art |
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29 Feb 00 - 09:41 PM (#187163) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: catspaw49 Well the salt's not all that good for you anyway Art. Spaw |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:15 AM (#187247) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Lin in Kansas Okay, guys--deep breaths now, pleeee-zzzzz? Guest TRC, did you get an answer you could use before this went into warp drive thread leap? Personally, I appreciated the info, Clinton, Pastorpest, Sabra, Sorcha--I've heard the term "pibroch" many times, and assumed it had something to do with bagpipes, but that was the extent of my knowledge. Now I'm a little smarter, and I thank you. Mbo, you amaze me--you sing, you write, you play, you compose, you paint, you roadie, you post (incessantly)...now if we could only gently persuade you to shut up and LISTEN once in awhile! You wear me out! Mellow out for awhile, okay? Take a nap or something. You're far too young to be that much of an overachiever...Sheesh! Lin (who has a serious headache from the reverb over in the Recording Studio) |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:33 AM (#187254) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Sorry JL, I don't paint...drawing & design is more my bag..and ask my folks--I NEVER SHUT UP! --Mbo |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:40 AM (#187260) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha Mbo's real problem is LON, Lack of Nookie. Don't be too hard on the boy, this is serious. Mbo, I have a 15 yr. old daughter that has seen your pic and thinks you are cute. Granted, 15 to 20 is a stretch, but 20-25 is not. She can sing, she can write lyrics and occasionally compose a melody. Right now she has serious 15 yr old PMS/ATTITUDE problems, but can you hang in there? I would be happy to arrange something in a year or two. PS--her mother thinks she is beautiful.....5'3", brown eyes, 36C, hair subject to change, right now it is red and blue. Will send a pic to bbc along with mine, whenever I get that done. DON'T DESPAIR, THEY ARE OUT THERE! |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:50 AM (#187274) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Sure, Sorcha. I'll be waiting! "Though I'm sleepy, I wait for you--my hours are few...I've been wasting my chances, true, you know any old time will do!" --Mbo |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:58 AM (#187281) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sabra Merciful Heavens...How did we get from bagpipes to the dating game? I think I love this place:-). Mbo, you just go right on overacheiving darlin', as long as you're takin care of yourself.(does sort of wear me out tryin to keep up sometimes tho, but its fun!) HEY Sorcha? I have a 16 yr old son with green/bleached blonde hair if Mbo doesn't wanna wait? I agree, this thread has been interesting--until I looked it up today I wasnt exactly sure what a pibroch was either,only that on Jethro Tull's LP "Songs from the Wood" there is a song entitled "Pibroch-Cap in Hand". Thanks for your input all you real experts. |
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01 Mar 00 - 01:19 AM (#187295) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy My dream is to see a marching uilleann pipe band pibroching its way down 5th avenue on St. Patrick's Day, like 60 Quasimodos, elbows flying in unison. |
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01 Mar 00 - 01:22 AM (#187298) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha SENDING PIC SOON!! She is Sagitarius, born 12/04/84 at 10:34 PM in Evanston,Wy. (run it yourself!) She was born knowing how to be a Bitch, didn't have to learn it, but she can be a real sweetie, if you sneak it by her. I am all in favor of "arrangements", but Sabra, let;s not tell her about your son, we need to keep this "green hair stuff" to a minimum, although I will admit to threatining to cut mine to 1" and dyeing it green just to "Get" to my Dobro player who said I Couldn't! |
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01 Mar 00 - 01:31 AM (#187303) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sabra wow..Uillean Pibroch parade, surreal! I'm working on getting to Edinburgh during Festival this summer-On Aug 5th they are having a big Y2k piper's celebration and intend to amass 10,000 pipers for a performance. Anyone care to speculate A) How long that parade would be? or B)How many European mainland countries the event will be heard in? (W/O amplification?) |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:17 AM (#187445) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo WHAT?! Sorcha, check out my birthday--12/04/78 at 2 something AM, in Albany, Georgia. Wow--the same birthday--something in common already! **BOG** --Mbo |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:23 AM (#187450) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: GUEST,FranK Hamilton Art, If it ain't Scottish it's "krep"(lach). Frank |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:24 AM (#187452) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: GUEST,FranK Hamilton Art, If it ain't Scottish it's "krep"(lach). (Refer to SNL) Frank |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:34 AM (#187457) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo WHoa! Ten thousand pipers a' an' a' Ten thousand pipers a' an' a'! Oh, how I'd love them to play MY piobaireachd! --Mbo |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:47 AM (#187470) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Art Thieme It's a slow lament often played at graveside --- as in the "THE FLOWERS OF THE FOREST" which was played on bagpipe during the graveside service for John F. Kennedy. (for real) Art Thieme |
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01 Mar 00 - 10:49 AM (#187473) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Peg I love "Pibroch: Cap in Hand" by Tull...very evocative song. Songs From the Wood was my favorite album all through high school (still is kinda), and at one time I had myself convinced "Pibroch" was a thinly-veiled teenage boy's masturbation fantasy (and of course this thread probably caused me to remember that!) In college a friend and I used the little "pibroch" interlude in the song as the accompaniment to a choreography assignment in ballet class (folk steps mostly)... if anyone is interested: http://www.obsidianmagazine.com/Pages/iananderson.html it's an article I wrote analyzing the Celtic/pagan imagery in his songs...
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01 Mar 00 - 12:19 PM (#187544) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Lin in Kansas Thanks, Art, for adding another bit of knowledge to the (horridly few) brain cells I have left. And I remember sobbing, along with the rest of the nation, when that song was played...way too many years and dreams ago. |
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01 Mar 00 - 12:54 PM (#187567) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Clinton Hammond2 Peg... Fellow Tullite... Most of Songs From The Wood, and indeed alot of Ian's songwriting is "thinly-veiled teenage boy's masturbation fantasy"!! LOL!! One of the reasons I like them so much... Have you seen this site Cup Of Wonder?? A fantastic Jethro Tull Lyric site, with very interesting annotations... {~` |
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01 Mar 00 - 01:42 PM (#187592) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Peg yeah i have seen that site but have not yet taken the time to look it over thoroughly...there are a few Tull sites out there...i used to receive an online publication (discusion list format) called The St. Cleve Chronicle but I believe it has disbanded... i would love to find a source for collectibles...i have a few myself but more is better! |
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02 Mar 00 - 12:19 AM (#187940) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo Sorcha, can she add a white streak in there to be totally patriotic? --Mbo |
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02 Mar 00 - 12:26 AM (#187945) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sorcha Well, she wears white eye liner. Does that count? |
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02 Mar 00 - 12:32 AM (#187947) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo I guess--sounds like she needs a Mr.Connservative like me to show her the finer points of public presentation! **BOG** --Mbo |
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02 Mar 00 - 12:35 AM (#187951) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Mbo That is if she want to, anyway! --Mbo |
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02 Mar 00 - 12:42 AM (#187956) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: Sabra The Cup of Wonder site is really great-Thanks for including the link here! I only have one Tull CD, and Songs from the Wood is it..I suppose you could say that LP was really my introduction to Celtic Music (I was also in high school when I discovered it,Peg)and once I had a wee taste,I simply had to go searching for the roots from whence it came. |
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02 Mar 00 - 04:22 PM (#188295) Subject: RE: What is a pibroch From: GUEST,Peter Whats the longest pibroch in the world? The one you are currently listening to. P. |