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Origin: Bright Shining Morning

07 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM (#208608)
Subject: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,radriano

Hi, everyone, it's me again!

I've been surfing the internet looking for historical info on the English hunting song, The Bright Shining Morning. The song is in the database but the version given is credited as having been heard from me singing it in the San Francisco Folk Club in 1983. And I don't remember where I got it from!!!

Another senior moment here. Anyone know about the background to this song?

Sheepish regards,
radriano

07 Apr 00 - 08:24 PM (#208621)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Barbara

It's not Copper Family, Richard?
Blessings,
Barbara

07 Apr 00 - 08:37 PM (#208626)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Pete Peterson

I learned it from Swan Arcade (Dave Brady, Heather Brady, Jim Boyes) record out 1973. "This song is from Popular Songs of Sussex, collected by Revd. J. Broadwood and Lucy Broadwood" Just to make sure we are talking about the same song, the chorus ends "awake from your slumbers and hail the new day" Yes?

07 Apr 00 - 11:28 PM (#208695)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Barbara

Yes! Yes! (that is to say, and the last line repeats).
Blessings,
Barbara

07 Apr 00 - 11:31 PM (#208697)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Bill D

Lou Killen has an album of that name...it's the title song..perhaps there?

08 Apr 00 - 12:50 PM (#208891)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: kendall

Lou AND Sally did it!!

08 Apr 00 - 01:00 PM (#208892)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Sandy Paton

That's Lou Killen and his (then) wife Sally - Front Hall Records, FHR-06 - Bright Shining Morning, Side A, Cut 4. They learned it from Swan Arcade, who got it from the Broadwood Sussex collection and added a verse of their own. I don't know which one.

Sandy

06 Sep 06 - 07:21 PM (#1828767)
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning
From: Artful Codger

In searching for the original "Sweet Rosy (or Rosey) Morning", I've only been able to come up with obsolete links and index entries. These have pointed to a song "Damon and Phoebe". (When searching, note that the o and e may be ligated as the special character œ, and "and" may be replaced by an ampersand.) The first lines run:

When the sweet rosey morning first peep'd from the skies
A loud singing lark bade the villagers rise;

www.colonialdancing.org provides an index entry for this song, though the "incipit" indicates a different tune entirely.

I also found this at the University of Buffalo's British Music Collection index:
721. PRING, Jacob Cubitt, 1771-1799.
Damon and Phoebe, a favorite Song with an Accompanyment for the Forte Piano...
London: J. Bland [1788].
3 pp.
CPM Vol. 46, p. 110. BUCp. 810. RISM P5461 (only one copy recorded).

Can someone provide the Broadwood version of this song, or the full text of "Damon and Phoebe"?

06 Nov 09 - 09:56 PM (#2761278)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST

Here is a link to "Rosy Morn" clearly a variation of the song.

http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getfolk.php?id=953

Phoebus is mentioned in the first line. No music is provided. Anyone know know the tune or where one might find it?

--Bill Brown

Folk Song Information

Song TitleRosy morn
Roud No.58
Collected FromHarvey, Henry 'Wassail'
LocationCricklade
CountyWiltshire
Collected ByWilliams, Alfred
Alternative Title
Tune
Date
Source PrimaryWSRO: 2598/36 Packet 4 - Wiltshire: Williams, A: MS collection No Wt 365
Source SecondaryWilliams, A: Folk songs of the upper Thames, 1923 p 58
Recording
 
Song Lyrics
Verse 1

The red, rosy morn peeps over yon hill,
Bright Phoebus is dawning through meadow and field,
Whilst the merry, merry horn cries – Come, come this way!
Awake from your slumbers and behold a new day.

Chorus

For it’s sleepy weather and drowsy morn,
We’ll follow the sound of the merry-tuned horn,
We’ll hunt the bottle from sun to sun,
And follow the lasses wherever they run;
Then tipple away, tipple away,
And let us be merry, boys, whilst we stay.

Verse 2

Our stag runs before us and away seems to fly,
Our horses in full speed, my boys, and our hounds in full cry;
Whilst the merry horn cries – Come, come this way!
Awake from your slumbers, and behold a new day.

Chorus

Verse 3

Our day’s sport being over, and our horses at ease,
We’ll call for a bowl, my boys, and drink when we please;
Then let us, let us be merry whilst we stay!
Let love crown this night, my boys, and sport crown the day!
 
 
Notes
Alfred Williams – ‘Here again we give several versions of the same song obtained within a radius of about twenty miles. The piece was very popular It is a hunting song and one of the best of its kind: one needs but little judgement to discover its superiority above the more modern song, ‘We’ll all go a-hunting today’. This version was well known at Cricklade where I obtained the words of the late Wassail Harvey and Mr Phoenix Giles.’

Transcribed and edited by Chris Wildridge, 2007.

06 Nov 09 - 10:17 PM (#2761284)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: Joe Offer

Here's the version used by the In Harmony's Way group in the San Francisco area (radriano, et al.)

Bright Shining Morning

The bright shining morning smiles over the hills,
With blushes adorning the meadows and rills.
The bright shining morning smiles over the hills,
With blushes adorning the meadows and rills.

And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away;
And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away;
Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day,
Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day.

The horses all saddled, they dance on the ground,
And they lift up their heads at the bay of the hound.

And over the hilltops the huntsman's hollo,
Comes echoing down to the valley below.

The fox runs before us, he seems for to fly,
And he pants to the chorus of the hunt in full cry.

When our day's work is ended, we home do retire,
And we pull off our boots by the light of the fire.

Come, fill up your glasses, let the toast go around,
And we'll drink to all hunters, where ever they're found.

(Verses 2 and 3 by A. Wood and D. Olsen. All others traditional.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fQ6jsworw

07 Nov 09 - 09:26 AM (#2761486)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,Bob

I've heard the Wilsons do the Swan Arcade version live, years ago, but I don't think they have ever recorded it.

07 Nov 09 - 09:45 AM (#2761494)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: KT

Finest Kind does a wonderful rendition of it on their SILKS & SPICES CD.

07 Nov 09 - 10:51 AM (#2761535)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,padgett on lap top

The Holmevalley Tradition, Holmfirth West Yorks, in particular Barry Bridgewater, and Will Noble sing this quite regularly

The song very likely from Arthur Howard

The Holmevalley lot are still hunting with dogs although this has been banned in England, supposedly

SWan Arcade's version is probably most popular in England although Barry in particular sings a different set of words passed down orally

He does sing Bright Rosy Morning ~ he also currently leads the singing at The George, Upper Denby having taken over from Cyril Latimer and formerly at The Fountain, Ingbirchworth at Christmas!!

Ray

30 Mar 20 - 11:00 PM (#4043272)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: Joe Offer

Refresh - this song could use more study. No listing in the Traditional Ballad Index, but it's Roud Number 21097.
There's a nice entry in Mainly Norfolk.
Here's the version we have in the Digital Tradition:

          BRIGHT SHINING MORNING

The bright shining morning smiles over the hills
With blushes adorning the meadows and rills
The bright shining morning smiles over the hills
With blushes adorning the meadows and rills

   And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away
   And the merry, merry, merry horn cries come, come away
   Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day
   Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day

The fox runs before us, he seems for to fly
And he pants to the chorus of the hunt in full cry

When our day's work is ended, we home do retire
And we pull off our boots by the light of the fire

Come, fill up your glasses, let the toast go around
And we'll drink to all hunters, where e'er they are found

First heard at Folk Club in 1983 from Richard Adrianowicz of Out
of the Rain. JN

@hunt    @animal
filename[ BRTSHING
JN


Finest Kind sang these same lyrics of "Bright Shining Morning" on their 2003 album Silks & Spices. They claim to have learned the song from Lou Killen. I wonder if Richard Adrianowicz also learned these lyrics from Lou Killen, although Richard sang different lyrics with In Harmony's Way.

31 Mar 20 - 04:29 PM (#4043428)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: r.padgett

last post lost!! However appears in The Southern Harvest as written and composed in 1737 ~ originally in Foggy Dew EFDSS

Ray

31 Mar 20 - 05:33 PM (#4043438)
Subject: ADD Version: On a Bright and Rosy Morning
From: Joe Offer

ON A BRIGHT AND ROSY MORNING (THE SWEET ROSY MORNING)

On a bright and rosy morning the sun shone o’er yon hills,
Just as the day was dawning across the meadows and fields;

CHORUS
Whilst the merry, merry, merry horn cries “Come, come, away”,
It's awake from your slumber and behold some new day. (twice)

The fox rose from his cover, he seem’d for to fly,
Our horses at full speed, my boys, our hounds in full cry;

He led us a chase, my boys, for fifty long miles,
Over hedges and ditches, over gates and over stiles;

Our day’s sport being over, our horses at their ease,
We will call for a bowl, my boys, to drink when we please;

Singer: William Randall Hursley, Hampshire, June 1905

From The Foggy Dew, page 64 (selected and edited by Frank Purslow, EFDS Publications, 1974)

Notes:
    Gardiner Hp. 69. A widely-spread and well-known hunting song, usually associated with stag-hunting, in which form Alfred Williams printed three versions in Folk Songs of the Upper Thames. This sort of song might well have been sung in the pub after the day's hunting was over - but whether by the members of the hunt or their followers is a moot point. I have slightly amended the rhythm of bars 8, 9, and 10 as the bar-lines seem to have been misplaced in the original notation. I have also added verse 3 to make the song a little longer; a verse of this nature appears in most hunting songs as a convention.

31 Mar 20 - 06:50 PM (#4043450)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,Starship

From the LOC:

https://www.loc.gov/resource/sm1835.361330.0/?sp=1

31 Mar 20 - 07:32 PM (#4043454)
Subject: ADD Version: Bright Rosy Morning
From: Joe Offer

Thanks, Starship.

THE BRIGHT ROSY MORNING

The bright rosy morning peeps over the hills,
With blushes adorning the meadows and fields.
CHORUS
|: While the merry, merry, merry horn calls come, come away,
Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day. :|

The stag rous'd before us, Away seems to fly,
And pants to the chorus Of hounds in full cry.
CHORUS
|: Then follow, follow, follow, The musical chase
Where pleasure and vigour, And health all embrace. :|

The day's sport when over, makes blood circle right,
And gives the brisk lover fresh charms for the night.
CHORUS
|: Then let us, let us now enjoy All we can while we may;
Let love crown the night, boys, as our sports crown the day. :|

Source: https://www.loc.gov/resource/sm1835.361330.0/?sp=1

Published by Oliver Ditson, Boston - I can't read the date for sure, but it looks like it was submitted for copyright in 1835

31 Mar 20 - 08:49 PM (#4043460)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: GUEST,Starship

Welcome, Joe. The date is 1835 btw. If you do a Google of

The bright rosy morning peeps over the hills, With blushes adorning the meadows and fields.

You will be taken to a gang of publications/books the song has appeared in. At a quick glance, 1835 is the earliest date so far, and someone earlier in the thread mentioned the 1700s, so I'll keep looking.

01 Apr 20 - 04:02 AM (#4043503)
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning
From: r.padgett

Roud 21097

Written by Henry Carey and composed by Richard Leveridge (not too sure exactly what this means btw) 1737

In Southern Harvest:

My friend Steve Gardham probably did all the provenance notes!!

refers to an 18th century printing from an upmarket songster complete with tune and hand coloured engraving, in regard to BSM

Ray