|
19 Apr 00 - 06:20 PM (#214558) Subject: when the wagon was new From: GUEST,jinks dulcimer player hey anyone !! i am looking for a copyright date of "when the wagon was new" i cant seem to find on net,, thanks jinks |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:33 PM (#214566) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Bill in Alabama jinks-- I searching, but I haven't found it yet. I'll bet that Dale Rose will know this one, and Dale checks in her regularly. |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:39 PM (#214575) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Joe Offer Hi, Jinks - on her Unclaimed Pint CD, Sally Rogers says the song is traditional. Rogers learned it from Sharon McInturff, who learned it from a recording of Sam McGee, who learned it from an Illinois traveler in the 1930's. -Joe Offer- |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:45 PM (#214579) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Dale Rose I'm here (right on Joe's heels) It seems like there should be something more definitive as far as date. I just recently heard the song done live, and will have to check around some. (At least I didn't get beat by three years, Joe) |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:47 PM (#214580) Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN THE WAGON WAS NEW From: Joe Offer WHEN THE WAGON WAS NEW as sung by Sam and Kirk McGee Just an old rusty wagon that's left to rot away. The one we used to ride in back in the good-old days. People all loved their neighbors, everybody was so free. And riding in the brand new wagon was something to see. CHORUS: Oh, I can see my daddy riding up in the wagon seat. Mama in her new sun-bonnet, she looked so nice and neat. Children all in the wagon, Grandma, Grampa, too. We used to go to church on Sunday when the wagon was new. Red wheels was on the wagon and the body it was green. But we was just as happy as riding in a limousine. People would come and gather 'round from all the mountainside Take a look at our brand new wagon and all take a ride. CHORUS But the automobile is here now and the wagon days are through. Air-o-planes a'hummin', good neighbors are so few. Everybody's in a hurry and it's money that gets you through. But we didn't need much money when the wagon was new. CHORUS (from the Sally Rogers recording, "The Unclaimed Pint." JRO |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:52 PM (#214585) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Dale Rose But then I didn't post the lyrics, either! |
|
19 Apr 00 - 06:58 PM (#214588) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Joe Offer I cheated and used my scanner, Dale. The OCR read it absolutely perfectly. All I had to do was add the <br> line breaks. -Joe Offer- |
|
19 Apr 00 - 07:11 PM (#214601) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Stewie The Sam McGee album does not have any publishing details - only what Joe said: that he learned it from a visitor from Illinois. BMI has 2 listings for the title - by a Johnny K. Elgin (Second Base Music) and another by a William York (Fort Knox Music and Trio Music). Stewie. |
|
19 Apr 00 - 07:18 PM (#214606) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Stewie Actually, you will see there are 3 - I overlooked Purdom (APRS). Does this mean these are 3 different songs or different arrangements of a single song or what? Stewie. |
|
19 Apr 00 - 07:28 PM (#214624) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: Dale Rose Take a look at the list of songs claimed by William York, and you'll see that he was quite the prolific "writer". Checking any number of the old Stardays will turn his name up as writer of a huge number of songs. For example, I just checked one album by Jim Glaser, Just Looking For A Home, Starday 158. He gets credit for all but Dark As A Dungeon ~~ Merle Travis. What did he write??? Tom Dooley, The Riddle Song, The Dying Hobo, Careless Love, Bill Bailey, Midnight Special, Boll Weevil, Poor Boy, Erie Canal, The Frozen Logger, Worried Man Blues. Judge for yourself. |
|
20 Apr 00 - 10:22 AM (#214990) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: GUEST,jinks thanks ya'll was great to find soooooooo many that knew about the song.... i seem to find lots of thses tunes no-one knows , when they were done. i use them at Mountain View , playing at the Folk Center.... everything i play has to be before 1941....... thanks again jinks |
|
20 Apr 00 - 01:02 PM (#215069) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: GUEST,Arkie Jinks, bet I know you. Do you play a courtin' dulcimer? On the matter of William York, according to Dr. William K. McNeil, whom I've referred to as Dr. Bill on occasion, the name was frequently used by publishers for a tune thought to be in public domain. On the other matter of authorship of "When the Wagon Was New", Dr. Bill was told by Sam McGhee that he had written the song around 1920. The song was copyrighted in 1971, which was the same year I saw Sam McGhee at the World Exposition in Montreal. At his performance there, he claimed authorship. |
|
20 Apr 00 - 09:30 PM (#215318) Subject: RE: when the wagon was new From: GUEST,jinks hi arkie i live in AR too .. cabot ... dont play a courtin dulcimer, but i do play at flok center.. heading that way tomorrow for contest. i will be the one inthe black hat !!!! lol stop and say HI jinks |