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12 Jun 00 - 07:57 AM (#241360) Subject: Why are we all so different.........? From: Patrish(inactive) Cos we are - thats why. Patrish |
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12 Jun 00 - 09:11 AM (#241388) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Gary T Technically, it's because we're not all the same. (BG) |
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12 Jun 00 - 09:14 AM (#241390) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: jeffp Just remember you're unique -- just like everybody else. |
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12 Jun 00 - 09:15 AM (#241391) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: sledge I just thank God that we are, looking in the mirror daily is bad enough. The thought of stepping out of the house and seeing lots of ME'S all over the place......... |
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12 Jun 00 - 09:40 AM (#241409) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Little Neophyte Patrish, it gets really interesting when you realize although we are all so different, at the same time we are all so very much the same. Bonnie |
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12 Jun 00 - 09:42 AM (#241411) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie I'm not different! I'm the same. ;o) |
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12 Jun 00 - 10:18 AM (#241427) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Patrish(inactive) How long is a piece of string? Patrish |
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12 Jun 00 - 10:20 AM (#241429) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Gary T My dad's answer to that, Patrish: twice the length from one end to the middle. |
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12 Jun 00 - 10:23 AM (#241432) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Patrish(inactive) he is so right..... Patrish |
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12 Jun 00 - 01:17 PM (#241518) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: GUEST,Joerg As Eddie I'm not different - you are different. Joerg |
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12 Jun 00 - 01:56 PM (#241535) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 BonnAmie.....You are right in that we are the same. Any good sales pro will tell you that we are all at least 98% alike and though we like to focus in on the 2%, its really not relevant to making a sale. Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 02:33 PM (#241545) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: SeanM 'spaw, I'll have to disagree... that 2% is VERY important... After all, without it, dating would be a lot more complicated... M |
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12 Jun 00 - 02:51 PM (#241562) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 No Sean, we FOCUS on the 2% and we build our lives around it. We cherish and promote all those wonderful little nuances that make us special or make us stand out. Perhaps we focus on the ability to NOT be noticed and even that we may take pride in. But in the final analysis, the things that drive us, that make us tick are all very predictable and not in the least unique. Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 03:01 PM (#241568) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: ol'troll I'm just like Spaw. In fact, I use his picture to shave by. troll |
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12 Jun 00 - 03:10 PM (#241574) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 Which explains why we're both all cut to hell and begone all the time troll! Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 03:17 PM (#241576) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: MK (further to the thread title:) Just a wild guess but do you think there's a slight chance it could have something to do with our DNA, personalities, upbringing and environment, and our souls? oh....and to save anyone else the trouble of starting a new thread on "Why Is The Sky Blue?"...the scattering of light rays across the earth's atmosphere reflect the blue end of the spectrum. *BG* |
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12 Jun 00 - 03:20 PM (#241580) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: MK ...and also.......1 light year is equal to 6 trillion miles. |
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12 Jun 00 - 03:33 PM (#241584) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Peter T. A chance to take issue with my esteemed catspaw colleague! (I keep trying!) Human beings are predictable en masse -- check the highways at 4:30 -- and even more ominously can be made to be predictable by getting them to agree consciously or unconsciously on certain frame notions, e.g., this is how a person should behave, or a society should function. But the interesting part is the perversity (the 2% if you like). Dostoyevsky pointed this out in one of his famous fables: suppose for a moment that we were finally building the great utopia, and we were about to enter into it. At the last moment, one of the architects turns to the people and says: friends, we are about to embark upon perfection. Is it not a great day? And someone in the audience stands up and says: Let's tear the fucking thing down. And they do. Similarly, there have been any number of experiments that have shown that as soon as people believe they are becoming predictable, they will change their behaviour just to be unpredictable. Now we could semanticise about how predictable unpredictability is, but the point still stands. Given that you are a champion of perversity, I would have thought that you would embrace it as Dostoyevsky did as an expression of human original sin and freedom (simultaneously!). Dostoyevsky made it the basis of his Christianity and disgust with utilitarianism, statistics, and all forms of sociological and utopian prediction. yours, Peter T. |
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12 Jun 00 - 04:05 PM (#241595) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 Oddly (or not) enough Peter, you make the point quite well. The experiments include the fact that part of the 98 is that we will try to be the 2. Well that sounds weird, but I assure you that the very facts you mention are what a salesman (sorry, for the lack of PC)COUNTS ON as happening! Most closing techniques are based on the predictability of the desire to be different and unpredictable. Ya' know, I'd love to spend a little face to face time with you Peter on this subject. Live examples of things are better than the written word in this case.....a little role play perhaps. Starting to write about this stuff has the feel of writing a book and we have plenty of authors around here already. My 2% is my pride in tripe and that I actually get a kick out of seeing the perverse in everything (go visit the "Experimental CD" thread) and enjoy wasting time writing things that only about 3 people will ever see. But then again, that's what we're all doing here in essence isn't it? Hmmmm....does that relate? Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 04:17 PM (#241605) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: GUEST,Peter T. I always assumed Mudcatters were in the business of cultivating the perverse 2% so that it would at least hit double digits. yours, Peter T. P.S. I also think one of the other issues is the role playing -- the famous Turing test (can you make a computer that will respond so well that no one will be able to detect that it is not human, in which case it might as well be called human) which has so far only really worked well modelling paranoids who are governed by neurotic machine like responses, and other people whose responses are predictable because of the situations they are in. A salesman and the customer are in a particular rule-guided situation, which is governed by a set of possible responses and counter-responses, and so on. It is not automatically applicable to the rest of human behaviour. |
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12 Jun 00 - 04:40 PM (#241614) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 Oh Peter, we have GOT to get together!!! Gawd I love this place! Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 05:18 PM (#241629) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Peter T. Some unpredictable day we certainly will! (click); some unpredictable day we certainly will! (click); some unpredict ----aawwwwwkkkkkk |
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12 Jun 00 - 05:48 PM (#241639) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Little Neophyte I was just thinking that everytime I think my sh*t smells better than yours or when I think my sh*t smells worse than yours, it is a freeing feeling to realize that both our sh*t smells the same. Bonnie |
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12 Jun 00 - 05:51 PM (#241643) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: catspaw49 Actually Bonnie.....My shit don't stink! (Predictable response) Spaw |
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12 Jun 00 - 07:54 PM (#241703) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: GUEST i am different cuz i dont even shit |
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12 Jun 00 - 10:12 PM (#241771) Subject: RE: BS: Why are we all so different.........? From: Ebbie Dear Guest: You're so full of it. (predictable response!) Ebbie |