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23 Jun 00 - 09:35 AM (#246484) Subject: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair The Autumn thread is getting a bit long, so perhaps we could continue the discussion about important details here. Suggestions for the guest beer at the Red Lion, Llanfair Caereinion during the Mudcatters UK gathering. Hwyl, Bron. |
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23 Jun 00 - 05:29 PM (#246716) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Morticia I'd go with anything from the Greene King stable...please lay in aspirin...or Adnams....please lay in buckets...or gin...please lay in. |
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23 Jun 00 - 06:46 PM (#246758) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Micca So long as its NOT Old Hooky, a name redolent with lost days and painful awakenings and alkaseltzer with the extra loud fizz...and as the slogan on their famous T shirt said " the brew that put the droop in Brewers droop" I will be on the cider myself , but Abbott would make a nice change or any other Greene King or Adnams...or Fullers London Pride or ESB. |
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23 Jun 00 - 07:34 PM (#246775) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Morticia or gin...please lay in the gutter; was what I meant to write...got distracted and forgot my punchline |
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23 Jun 00 - 07:48 PM (#246779) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair Nice one, Morticia!!! Bron. |
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05 Jul 00 - 03:43 PM (#252363) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair Any more ideas here? Bron. |
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05 Jul 00 - 03:58 PM (#252379) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: McGrath of Harlow When in doubt I tend to go for Adnams if it's there.. Greene King is ok, but since it's what we have round my way all the time, so I'd as soon have something more novel to my palate. (If it's Greene King, the Best is better then the Abbott I reckon. But thousands would differ.) An Essex beer I don't get to drink that often is Ridleys, and that can be great, but I'm nkt sure itbtravels too well.
And there's Ruddles from up in Rutland, and that might be a really good choice.
I'm getting thirsty... |
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05 Jul 00 - 06:03 PM (#252447) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Liz the Squeak McGrath - looks like you don't travel too well after a few beers either!! Ever thought of disabling your spell checker?! Go for a Southern brewery, one that the Northerners won't have heard of, like Hall & Woodhouse, or Eldridge Pope or Palmers of Bridport (notice a theme here, fellow Dorset dumplin's??) Get some Timothy Taylor and leave it to settle properly, you can't go far wrong with a good Landlord.... well I didn't last weekend, but that's probably enough of that!! LTS |
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06 Jul 00 - 01:45 AM (#252705) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Terry K Another vote for Adnams here. Or London Pride. But in any case, nothing too strong otherwise everone stops drinking too soon - a good "session beer" is what's needed. And McGrath, Ruddles is now "brewed" at some chemical plant in Abingdon - not like the old days any longer! Cheers, Terry |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:04 AM (#252745) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Patrish(inactive) I,m with LTS - Timothy Taylors Landlord - beautiful stuff Patrish |
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06 Jul 00 - 07:11 AM (#252766) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: GUEST can recommend wychwood brewery products especially "fiddlers elbow"but their main product is "hobgobblin ale" |
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06 Jul 00 - 10:45 AM (#252850) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Ringer Timothy Taylor's from a southern brewery, Liz? |
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06 Jul 00 - 10:56 AM (#252861) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Trevor What about 'Big Nev's' from The Six Bells in Bishops Castle? |
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06 Jul 00 - 03:54 PM (#253004) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair That's a bit closer to home, Trevor! |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:03 PM (#253014) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Ed Pellow Liz the Squeak Are you trying to wind us northerners up? We've heard of (and drink) Elderage Pope et al But up here, we all know that northern beers are superior, and aren't to sorry that the london-centric crowd never get to taste them :-) Ed |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:04 PM (#253016) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Ed Pellow even if we can't spell... |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:13 PM (#253022) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair Um......are we talking North of the Wash, or North as in "not London" I'm a bit unsure as to where mid-Wales comes in all this. I'm a Manchester lass, and Boddington's is good enough for me. I need to be educated in the virtues of "Southern" beers. Cheers, Bron. |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:26 PM (#253031) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: McGrath of Harlow There's great beer from all points of the compass. And there's horses piss as well, and it doesn't matter where it's made, it's still horse piss. But we won't be having any of that. |
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06 Jul 00 - 04:37 PM (#253036) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Ed Pellow McGrath, you're right... I may have been suffering a mild dose of the 'english disease' |
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06 Jul 00 - 07:23 PM (#253109) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Lanfranc Isn't there a new Welsh real ale brewery that just started production? Can't remember the name offhand, but I'll research and repost unless someone beats me to it. It would seem appropriate to drink a brew from the Principality assuming it's not pit-pony piss! |
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06 Jul 00 - 07:31 PM (#253111) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Morticia wasn't the 'English' disease syphillus....at least, isn't that what the french called it? |
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06 Jul 00 - 08:09 PM (#253124) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman Bron, what breweries are near you and what does the Red Lion normally sell? If possible, I would rather sample something from your area than getting a beer in from farther away. I suppose of the ones mentioned, I would vote for Norton Old Hookey which I have not tasted in a long while and it reminds me of a very pleasant day I spent on the Severn Valley Railway. Jon |
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07 Jul 00 - 04:44 AM (#253307) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Trevor Hello, The Sun in the Corvedale opened a little brewery lately and there are a couple of good brews coming out of there. How about if I volunteer to be tester? |
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07 Jul 00 - 07:45 AM (#253333) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Skipjack K8 How quaintly British! All our Septic mates the other side o't pond are thrashing themselves with birch twigs and PUBLIC APOLOGIES, and we are having a regional spat about beer. Bron, time to be a benign dictator and choose for us, I think. I am a 'soft southern bastard' living in the frozen north and slurping down brilliant ale from all points of the compass. McGrath, your comments on equine urine hold true for me. Bron, you will choose well, but please advise any carping tossers to arrange their own shindig and see how they like trying to please all the people all the time. Skipjack |
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07 Jul 00 - 05:10 PM (#253640) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair Skipjack, I was going to wait till nearer the time, and either go with the majority, subject to availability, or accept an ENORMOUS bribe!!!!!! Now, this is a secret between you and me, right? I don't drink beer much, and when I do, I put lemonade in it!!!!!! So I shall leave the final choice to those who know about these things. I have 5 gallons of elderflower wine just beginning to clear, should be ready in time, so I'll be OK!!!! Hwyl, Bron. |
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07 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM (#253654) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Terry K Ah Bron, the secret's out - there had to be a reason why Boddington's would do for you. Again, in the old days (oh no, not again) it used to be OK (not good, but OK) - nowadays it's brewed by ICI and the quality has suffered, as have the drinkers of it! So I guess it's got to be Adnams then. Cheers, Terry |
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07 Jul 00 - 08:43 PM (#253800) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: SINSULL refresh |
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07 Jul 00 - 09:12 PM (#253832) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman I have done a little research and one new brewery in Wales is:
Bragdy Ynys Môn I did try a pint of one of thier brews last week but I can't really offer an opinion as I had drunk a few pints of Guinness before trying it. I used to love Pedwar Bawd/ Four Thumbs bitter that was brewed by Bragdyr Dyffryn Clwyd in Denbigh. I have just found out that they were taken over by:
Flannery's Brewery Ltd Jon |
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07 Jul 00 - 09:28 PM (#253836) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman I forgot to add that I found the addresses at:http://www.beerhouse.demon.co.uk/A/a.htm Jon
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08 Jul 00 - 06:49 PM (#254238) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: GUEST,Pete Attwood Although I won't be there... Could I suggest Black Sheep Best Bitter, a split from the Theakstons brewery, from Yorkshire, a fine pint that travels well. |
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08 Jul 00 - 07:20 PM (#254257) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Terry K No |
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08 Jul 00 - 07:27 PM (#254262) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Liz the Squeak Eagle - no, I was in Sheffield at the time. In London it tastes like the proverbial pit pony piss. Alan - there are no more pit ponies which is why they have to import lager. Morticia - you beat me to it, and you can spell it too. I was just going to call it the clap! LTS |
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08 Jul 00 - 07:35 PM (#254265) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Peter K (Fionn) I'm right behind the principle of drinking the principality's beer (except Braines Skull Attack of course). But surely someone could have put in a word for Theakston's - bitter, that is, I can't handle the Old Peculier. And honest-to-goodness Tetley's. Or have I skimmed the thread too fast? And I simply must add my voice to the chorus of disapproval stirred up by LTS in suggesting that Timothy Taylor's is a southern pint. But I see in another thread that she is prone to the occasional "hot flash," which might explain it. |
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09 Jul 00 - 01:32 AM (#254396) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Terry K "Theakston's" and "Tetleys" are two of the marketing men's favourite words - used to be good local independent breweries, now owned by massive faceless corporations. The resulting beer (most of Theakston's output is brewed in Newcastle, not Masham) is bland at best. Don't fall into the trap, there's nothing "honest to goodness" about either of them. And maybe Fionn, you did skim the thread too fast - I think LTS clarified that she was in Sheffield when she enjoyed TT Landlord. Cheers, Terry |
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09 Jul 00 - 04:37 AM (#254432) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Liz the Squeak Yes I was in Sheffield, but I have had a pint of TT Landlord in London, and it was horse piss. Or maybe the landlord's piss, in which case it lived up to its name. Not wanting to cloud my mind with prejudice, I had a pint of TT Landlord in the Red Deer in Sheffield, on Saturday lunchtime, after the procession through the city. It took a good 2 minutes to settle, and tasted like the food of the gods. Mind you, after walking through Sheffield City centre, guiding a 15 foot giant, being followed by a morris band, even the horse piss would have been welcomed! LTS |
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09 Jul 00 - 04:52 AM (#254438) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: katlaughing And, I thought Tetley's bagged tea!**BG** kattossingcrossthepond&ducking |
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09 Jul 00 - 04:52 AM (#254439) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Liz the Squeak So I guess I'll bring my own Tanglefoot then.... The SO said yes, so I'll be there, if someone can book me room at the indoor camping - bearing in mind there will be a four year old who habitually wakes at 7.00am..... LTS |
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09 Jul 00 - 06:17 AM (#254450) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Micca Tetleys and some of the products of the large conglomerates remind me of the Miles Wooton song (Just to inject some musical content)" Multigrab and UniBrew" that contains the immortal lines " good for getting rid of dandruff, good for clearing out your drains" |
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09 Jul 00 - 03:40 PM (#254649) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Dave Swan You guys are KILLING ME. Mind you, there's good beer to be had in the States, but nothing approaching the emabarassment of riches you have. I know the corporate robber chemists are having their way, and there are few real cellarmen left who know how to clean a beer engine or care for real ale, but I'll take those risks. I'm ready to hop on a plane and follow my nose to the sanctuary of a real pub and bury my nose in a real pint. Ruddles, anything from Hook Norton, Badger Bitter first to cut the dust, then we'll get down to serious sampling. You've just reminded me to re-up my CAMRA membership. Yours, with envy, Dave |
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09 Jul 00 - 04:45 PM (#254673) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Morticia Dave, come over in October....I'm sure someone will buy you a pint or several....if I could figure out a way to post it I would :)Actually Hook Norton wouldn't be a bad choice,Bron, although Old Hookey make my head hurt. |
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09 Jul 00 - 04:52 PM (#254675) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Lanfranc The troubles with importing beer are manifold: Does it travel? How long does it have to be cellared before it's drinkable? Is it so strong that everyone becomes dysfunctional after three pints? Will there be enough of it? The last is probably the worst - went to a village festival recently where they'd invited 12 Morris sides and numerous musicians. We'd drunk the pub dry by 9pm on the Saturday; there was supposed to be an extension until 3am and there was still the SUnday to go!!! Slim Dusty had a song for such situations, and I revived it. Incidentally, is everyone aware how the police establish whether one is "drunk and incapable" or "drunk and disorderly"? They trip you up. If you go down and stay down it's "D&I", if you go down and come up fighting it's "D&D". Poor little Euan! |
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13 Jul 00 - 07:29 AM (#256994) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Skipjack K8 Interesting and believable, Alan. There was an article on Radio 4 this morning about business jargon and gobbledegook, and the prize example was a landlord in Lincolnshire commenting that his brewery supplier now invoices him in 'leisure units'. They used to be called 'pints' Skipjack |
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13 Jul 00 - 07:57 AM (#257002) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: John J Dunno anything abt this gathering, although it sounds like fun. How about Timothy Taylor's Landlord OR (as severely tested at Morris in the Forest last week) Brakspears Organic Bitter. V good, although the falling over effect is quite apparent after 10 pints. |
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13 Jul 00 - 08:26 AM (#257008) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Micca It is reminiscent of the dialogue at the beginning of Puckoon, and would be my response,when The Milligan shouts up to the Lovely Mrs O'Toole " Would you have a cool libation for a thirsty traveller?" "Piss off" said the lovely Mrs O'Toole |
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13 Jul 00 - 12:06 PM (#257120) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair I think that Brakespears is a current guest beer, along with a stout which appears to rejoice under the name of "Dorothy Goodbody's", Or is it a mild? |
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13 Jul 00 - 12:32 PM (#257137) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman Another thought as I am in favour of getting a local beer, something like a Shrewsbury brewed beer if there is such a thing would be more local to Bron than many Welsh beers. Jon |
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13 Jul 00 - 12:41 PM (#257145) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman I suppose the thing that puzzles me in all this is most of us have tried the likes of Adnams, Hook Norton, Green King, etc. All good beers but it does strike me as being a little unimaginative and can't help feeling it would be more interesting to try something from a lesser know but local brewery. It is a bit of a gamble I know but it could pay off. on |
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13 Jul 00 - 01:37 PM (#257173) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Micca I like the sound of that, Jon, or the stuff thats usually pronounced "feeling foul" (Felinfoel) by the non-Welsh speaking contingent. I definately vote for something local, after all we can try the "big names" almost anywhere. |
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13 Jul 00 - 04:02 PM (#257240) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Liz the Squeak And usually try to! I'd like to go for a local brew too, I was too young to drink last time I was near Shrewsbury, and then I drank cider anyway! LTS |
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13 Jul 00 - 04:04 PM (#257241) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Catrin Ditto Micca and LTS - and anyway, it will be much much easier for the organisor(s). Catrin |
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13 Jul 00 - 04:20 PM (#257245) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Jon Freeman I'd missed Trevor's suggestion in this thread. I don't know about others but I had never heard of it let alone tried it and although Bishop's Castle is England, it fits my ideas of a beer reasonably local to Bron and is in fact closer to Bron than any of the Welsh beers mentioned in this thread. Any thoughts? Jon |
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13 Jul 00 - 05:23 PM (#257275) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Llanfair It's probably down to the Landlady, and which beer she can get hold of. I'll be showing her this thread soon. Bron. |
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14 Jul 00 - 05:55 AM (#257507) Subject: RE: Guest beer at the Red Lion From: Skipjack K8 Hello Landlady!!!!! Bron, I formally retract my East Anglian request, taking onboard McGraths point, and fall into line for a voyage into the unknown. Let's try the local mead. Happy Bastille Day Sshhkipjack |