12 Jul 00 - 06:18 AM (#256268) Subject: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,chinacatrider in Brighton, England I recently saw a TV program on Appalachian snake handlers and was completely blown away by the music, especially the electric guitar playing. I was hoping that one of you folks out there would know where I could find an album or more information about it. Thanks for the help. |
13 Jul 00 - 01:23 AM (#256944) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Joe Offer Hi - I didn't find anything about music, but I think you'll find this link (click) fascinating. Also, take a listen to this broadcast - I think I'll wait until daytime before I do.... -Joe Offer- |
13 Jul 00 - 01:33 AM (#256946) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Joe Offer Also this: [DIGEST]MACEDONIA, Ala. (AP) - Punkin Brown stalks around the altar of the Old Rockhouse Holiness Church, his head bobbing, his voice a stream of guttural barks from the depths of his chest. He is "in the Word," and the congregation is clapping and shouting. Thursday, December 10, 1998 The spirit to take up snakes |
13 Jul 00 - 08:35 AM (#257011) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,chinacatrider Thanks very much for the info. The radio broadcast is excellent. Here are a few more links for anyone else interested: http://www.les.appstate.edu/courses/appalachia/religion/snake.htm http://athena.english.vt.edu/~appalach/essaysS/snakes.htm I still haven't found any music. Perhaps a good project awaits... |
06 Jul 08 - 12:04 AM (#2382135) Subject: My Hero From: GUEST,Baby Snake in K.Y Punkin Brown was my hero. He was avery close friend of my family. He was the greatest snakehandling preacher that ever was in the Holliness church. I miss him very much. |
06 Jul 08 - 12:32 AM (#2382149) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: katlaughing There is a person who posted THIS VIDEO on youtube who claims to have studied and documented it for over five years. Perhaps they could give you more info. |
06 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM (#2382616) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Sorcha They're all mad. Mad, I say. Mad. |
06 Jul 08 - 07:07 PM (#2382624) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,BanjoRay It could be worse, though .... they could be tryinbg to tell you there is a God. Ray |
06 Jul 08 - 07:31 PM (#2382634) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: McGrath of Harlow All looks rather unkind to the snakes. Try that kind of thing in this part of the world and the RSPCA would put a stop to it. |
07 Jul 08 - 12:30 AM (#2382739) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Janie Karen Kramer did an excellent documentary video on the Jolo Snake Handler congregation in 1977. Also see the novel by Lee Smith, "Saving Grace." The excellent music is common to many Holiness and Pentecostal churches in the southern Appalachians, and not just within snake handlers. |
25 Dec 12 - 10:19 AM (#3456843) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,I Believe I have grown up in this belief. As an adult seeking my own salvation I started to study Gods Word for myself and after considering all options and doctrines thed taught my heart that Holiness is the path He wants me to walk. If you don't believe in God or His Son, Jesus Christ then thats your choice. But God is real and the Bible is His Holy Word. Serpent handling is taken directly from the Word of God. It can be found in Mark 16:18. There are many different doctrines even within the Holiness community. Everything Ive ever seen published on the religion is from one doctrine. True Holiness children you will not see on line, on documentaries or in books. Holiness folks know how the world perceives them and will not put there worship services out there to be ridiculed and put down. If you really want to know about the true Hopiness way, then you have to get out there and witness it first hand. All are welcome. |
25 Dec 12 - 12:02 PM (#3456880) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Stilly River Sage Ah - a guest who doesn't understand that the Bible is a series of allegorical stories, meant to teach by fictional example, much like American Indian trickster tales (which were, ironically, banned wherever possible by christian missionaries who didn't like the wealth of teaching in what they considered heathen religions). When you take trickster or biblical examples literally you get yourself into trouble. Either bit by a snake or someone eats your asshole. (Trickster stories are broadly bawdy, another strike against them!) SRS |
25 Dec 12 - 08:53 PM (#3457054) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Bobert If ya' grow up in Virgina - as I did - you know the difference between "old time music", "bluegrass music" and "mountain music"... The "old time" and "mountain music" are closer related than "bluegrass music"... All three use the same instrumentation so it's more about the lyrics and the rhythm... "Blue grass" has one rhythm: balls to the wall fast... "Old time" and "mountain music" have a different rhythm... Slower sometimes... Pauses... "Old time" and "mountain" also are more apt to have Biblical or spirituality references... Kinda hard to explain if ya' ain't been around it all... B~ |
25 Dec 12 - 09:17 PM (#3457064) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Bobert Part B... Snakehandlers have no interest in "bluegrass"... It's gonna be either "mountain" or "old time" because they tend to be Biblical based... B~ |
25 Dec 12 - 10:20 PM (#3457084) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,Stim It's not "Mountain" or "old time" music, Bobert. Given your musical tastes, I am surprised you don't know more about this. Snakes and theology aside, it's great music. Holiness Snake Handlers Webs.com |
26 Dec 12 - 03:59 PM (#3457339) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Phil Cooper I see that the original post was from 2000. Some might find this song by Dave Carter interesting. Here's a youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQod5waZH7Q Never had any luck getting the blicky steps to work. |
26 Dec 12 - 05:56 PM (#3457393) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: Janie Thanks for the links, Stim. I'm not positive but I think most of them are taken from Karen's documentary, (1977.) The music is not necessarily unique to Snake Handler congregations, but can also be heard in other pentacostal/holiness churches. As you say, regardless of theology, it is great and joyful music. |
26 Dec 12 - 09:27 PM (#3457454) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,Gern Silly River Sage wasn't especially up to Christian charity by scoffing at Holiness beliefs politely presented by a guest. How quickly we leap to bigotry when we see the beliefs of others. Beware anyone who wishes to tell you exactly how the Bible should be read. |
27 Dec 12 - 03:55 PM (#3457782) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: RichM Delusional thinking must be confronted every time. Believe what you want, but when it harms children, it becomes too much. This silliness will die out but the harm it causes till it does... |
27 Dec 12 - 05:12 PM (#3457809) Subject: RE: Appalachian Snake Handler Music From: GUEST,Stim I think that's right, Janie. Somewhere, maybe in Google, that was credited as being the official site for the documentary. As to your comments, The kids have lost enough, and they need the security of knowing that they aren't a risk of losing yet another caregiver to snake bite. That is situational, though. I don't think you can dismiss this all as "silliness" or "delusional". It does raise questions, but they are not questions about "them"(because they quite literally are us), it raises questions about what we tell ourselves about what happens to us, and the ways that we contrive to explain it. |