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18 Aug 97 - 08:32 AM (#10640) Subject: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: szarak@polbox.com I've heard the song about Nelson's column that was blown up in Dublin probably in 1968 (??). I wonder if anybody knows any details: who, when, how (why - that's rather clear for me). Thanx in advance. Szarak |
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19 Aug 97 - 04:39 AM (#10729) Subject: Lyr Add: NELSON'S FAREWELL (Joe Dolan) From: Wolfgang Hell Hi Szarak, when I read this thread I went to the DT to reread the song and found to my surprise that Lord Nelson in the DT is another song than the one I know about the same event. Below you find the song I know (sung by the Dubliners). According to the two songs taken together, the event took place at 1.30 in the night from the 7th to the 8th March 1966. I do not know whether "the boys of Ireland" have ever been found. Yours Wolfgang NELSON'S FAREWELL (author: Joe Dolan)
1. Well, that poor old Admiral Nelson is no longer in the air,
2. Oh fifty pounds of gelinite it sped him on his way,
3.For a hundred and fifty seven years it stood up there in state,
4.Well the Russians and the Yanks with lunar probes they play
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19 Aug 97 - 11:00 AM (#10752) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: szarak@polbox.com Thanx for the words, date and time of the event. Although I knew this song quite well as sung by various folk singers, the text sent by you will make my private collection of Irish folk larger. I act as a collector and (from time to time) a performer of Irish folk music. Some weeks ago while singing some rebel songs in the pub, I had a chat with a guy, who claimed that HE WAS "the one who laid the charge". Of course, I would like to check this information and that's the reason I posted my questions to the forum. Thanx for your help. Yours, Szarak |
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19 Aug 97 - 06:58 PM (#10796) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca The one in the database I believe was sung by Makem and Clancy on a live album recorded in New York in the 60's. My sister used to have it and for all I know it may be out on CD now. Given the large percentage of Irishmen in his crews, I would have thought they'd have let him be. |
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20 Aug 97 - 08:06 AM (#10833) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Harald One thing to add is the matter of fact that the blowing up of Nelson´s column was to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Easter Rising of March 1916 which started at the post office in Dublin´s O´Connell Street.. This rising wasn´t an immediate success. The Irishmen were poorly equipped and couldn´t defend english Battleships attacking the city. Many a man was imprisoned and executed. But the rising set a sign. After World War II Ireland seperated from England (but not the six northern counties, but that´s another story...). DeValera became first President who did not make a vow on the english king. Some years later Ireland left the Commonwealth and so far declared it´s complete independence. From this point signs of english occupation disappeared, at last Nelson´s column. |
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20 Aug 97 - 09:10 AM (#10836) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Someone once told me that the Irish government colluded with the IRA to have it blown up, because it was obstructing traffic. They didn't want to tear it down for fear of being accused of meddling with history and for fear of annoying the English. Hence they got the IRA to do it. I don't know if this is true and I've never been to Dublin so I don't know if its removal eased congestion. |
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20 Aug 97 - 09:45 AM (#10838) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Wolfgang found this on a site on "A downtown Dublin Tour of Ulysses" Nelson's Pillar, the destination of the "two Dublin vestals" of Stephen's "Parable of the Plums" from "Aeolus," towered one-hundred and thirty-four feet above City Centre, Dublin. It consisted of a column topped by a statue of Horatio Nelson, a British admiral of the early nineteenth century. This monument to British military power was demolished by Republicans on the fiftieth anniversary of the 1916 Easter Rising. |
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20 Aug 97 - 08:04 PM (#10905) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca FYI, there is a Nelson on his column in Montreal in the old city. This column predates the one in Trafalgar Square. He survived the FLQ and although there was talk from time to time of selling him off to Halifax, Nova Scotia or some suitable nautical city he remains there yet. |
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23 Aug 97 - 03:35 PM (#11094) Subject: RE: Who laid the charge in Dublin City ????? From: Jerry Friedman Also for your information, a somewhat less important consequence of the Easter Rising was a poem by W. B. Yeats that in my opinion is one of the greatest in the English language. If you'd like, you can read it here. (Now let's see whether that worked. I used to be sort of computer-literate, but they keep changing the questions.) |
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20 Nov 98 - 03:14 AM (#46229) Subject: Lyr Help Req: Nelson's Farewell From: AndreasW Hi to all Mudcatters! Can somebody please help me? I tried to write down the lyrics to Nelson's Farewell, sung by the Dubliners I caught most of the words but in some places (marked in bold below) I am not sure whether I got it right, and one line is missing completely. Any corrections??? Thanks in advance, Andreas Nelson's Farewell sung by the Dubliners Oh well poor old Admiral Nelson is no longer in the arc Toora loora loora loora loo On the eighth day of March in Dublin City fair Toora loora loora loora loo From his standup stones in mortar He fell crashing to the quarter Where once he stood so stiff and proud and ruled So let's sing our celebration It's a service to the nation So poor old admiral Nelson, tooraloo Oh fifty pounds of gelignite it's fell him on the way Toora loora loora loora loo When the lad that laid the charge wouldn't get to him today Toora loora loora loora loo In Trafalgar Square it might be fair To leave old Nelson standing there Well, no one tells the Irish what they'll view So the Dublin corporation Can stop the liberations When the boys of Ireland showed them what to do A hundred and fiftyseven years it stood up there in state Toora loora loora loora loo To mark old Nelson's big triumph o'er the French and Spanish fleet Toora loora loora loora loo At one thirty in the morning Without a bit of warning Old Nelson took a powder and he blew So at last the Irish nation Has partnered a fire station Poor old admiral Nelson, tooraloo Well the Russians and the Yanks with their lunar prouds they play Toora loora loora loora loo When they hear the primed charge trying hard to make it blast away Toora loora loora loora loo But now the Irish joined the race We have an astronaut in space <here one line is missing completely> So lets sing our celebration It's a service to the nation To poor old admiral Nelson, tooraloo |
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20 Nov 98 - 04:25 AM (#46230) Subject: RE: Lyr Help Req: Nelson's Farewell From: AndreasW request withdrawn!!! By chance I found it in the database Yesterday I was searching for "Nelson" (without quotes of course) and found some songs but not "Nelson's Farewell", today I was looking for a different song (Boots of Spanish Leather, btw I didn't find it), searching for "Spanish", one of the hits had the title "Nelson's Farewell" (What a nice surprise!). So I tried once again search for "Nelson" and this time I got "Nelson's Farewell" Either I typed some invisible character yesterday, or the search result depends on time? A very confused Andreas
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