02 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM (#310448) Subject: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg MudBuds, Many times in the last few months I have wished that my husband, known here as Hardiman the Fiddler, could provide his wisdom and insight on the more controversial threads. And I miss his wicked humor on the others. Where's he been? He's been working way too hard pastoring our church, that's where, and he's tired. And... there have been so many funerals, people he has loved dearly, and now two more hard ones coming this week. And no matter how much you love to see a friend graduate, when they move away you still miss them. Our church nest must seem awful empty to him right now. And this is the start of the annual busiest week of stuff in the year, busier even than the biggest church holidays. And I am not much help. This is a man who does much good-- deeply, widely, and long into the night. Please would you pray that Hardiman know the abiding strength and peace of our Lord and that he remain filled with the joy his ministry is? He's too bnusy even to see Mudcat these days, so PM's will unfortunately not reach him. But I will print this thread every night and read it to him. Or you can e-mail me. Thanks. ~Susan motormice@hotmail.com |
02 Oct 00 - 05:27 PM (#310452) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Jon Freeman Of course I will pray Praise. Pass my best wishes on to him too. Jon |
02 Oct 00 - 05:33 PM (#310455) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: hesperis Well I don't know him, but...
I am sure he has made many good friends on Mudcat,
Know that you are loved. Know that the love of God endures through all trials, and rejoices with you in all joy. Know that the love of your friends is here for you in this busy time, and know that love endures beyond death. Know the miracle of this world, that God has created. Know the miracle of our responsibility and stewardship of this world. I hope the above words don't ruffle anyone's theological feathers! *wry grin* ~*sirepseh*~ |
02 Oct 00 - 05:34 PM (#310456) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: MMario consider this sung...
You who dwell in the shelter of the Lord
And He will raise you up on eagles' wings,
The snare of the fowler will never capture you,
And He will raise you up on eagles' wings,
You need not fear the terror of the night,
And He will raise you up on eagles' wings,
For to His angels He's given a command
And He will raise you up on eagles' wings, |
02 Oct 00 - 05:36 PM (#310461) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Dharmabum Greg,just as you have taken the time to let me know that I am in your thoughts,please be assured that you are in mine. I look forward to the day when we can sit down and play music together again. Ron. |
02 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM (#310464) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: GUEST,Kernow Jon Praise The prayers of my family are with you and Hardiman tonight. We've recently had a pastor move to one of our village churches who was taking 15 funerals a week in London,way too many. The love and prayers of all the villagers has helped him back up. I'm sure a good man like Hardiman will soon be strengthened again. God Bless you both. KJ |
02 Oct 00 - 06:11 PM (#310494) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: skarpi Dear Susan , I will pray for both of you but I am afraid that the prayer will some time to you over the ocean from Iceland to you. I hope that Hardiman will get a good rest and I know that god will thank him for his great work in gods house. All the best from skarpi Iceland. |
02 Oct 00 - 06:13 PM (#310495) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: catspaw49 Well Hardi, sounds like tough times, but to some degree, that's your business. So its understandable that things get equally tough on you, but always take a few for the two of you and for yourself. Advice like that is obvious and cheap, but its also well meant. Since you weren't around back then, the first time we ever met Cletus and Paw on this forum was when they had been out deer hunting and things didn't go too well. Paw had to do the eulogy himself and he didn't do too bad a job........Eulogy for Buford Turned out later that Buford ahd a six pack in his fanny pack and it absorbed the blast, so all's well that ends well. Take care of yourself. Spaw |
02 Oct 00 - 06:21 PM (#310502) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: catspaw49 Well I whupped up................. Spaw |
02 Oct 00 - 06:22 PM (#310505) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: catspaw49 Ok...I'm an idiot, but take care of yourself anyway!!! Spaw |
02 Oct 00 - 06:23 PM (#310507) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Peter T. I send you a Buddhist thought from a great master (from a workshop on burnout I attended years ago) -- "We vow to save all beings, but that is an absurd vow, what does it mean? It means that in spite of what we know, in spite of our limited powers, we wish that everyone could be saved -- it is the root of our impulse to save all beings that we value, however much we falter in practice. And we do falter; and we cannot save all beings singlehanded, and we need to remember occasionally to have some compassion for ourselves as we spread our compassion around the universe. Occasionally we need, to reverse the Christian saying, to do unto ourselves as we would do unto others." yours, Peter T. |
02 Oct 00 - 06:25 PM (#310509) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Jon Freeman spaw, try http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=57791 Note the "=" rather than the "#" Jon |
02 Oct 00 - 06:28 PM (#310514) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: catspaw49 I ain't never been none too good at them hieroglyphics so THANKS JON!!!! Good man Jon.......for a vampire. Spaw |
02 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM (#310519) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Hollowfox Hardiman, you've been having a hard year. Lots of changes through death, parting, and things we haven't heard about. A friend of mine in similar circumstances said it was like God cleaning the closet; lots of big, swift changes. Things like that, and the emptiness and the unknown future that comes with it, can just wring you out. And being a minister, you're always expected to be wise, insightful, understanding and giving. Remember what legend says was carved on King Solomon's ring? The initials for the words that would make the sad smile and give the joyous pause :This too shall pass." We'll keep you in our thoughts here on the 'Cat, in all the many ways that we do it. Maybe somebody else can find the gospel song "He Knows How Much You Can Bear", it's not in DT, and I'm running out of time to search here at work. For yourself, you've been doing everything right, but remember that it's not good stewardship to exhaust yourself down to a nubbin. Granted, you can't reschedule funerals, graduations, or other stress, but please try to take out a few minutes a day for some self-maintenance. I've known other clergy to take up martial arts, or "fighting" in medieval recreations to let off steam. Five minutes of chopping wood, or even a hot soaking bath to relax all your muscles wouldn't cut into your worktime too much, and maybe they'd help. I hope so, Mary |
02 Oct 00 - 07:00 PM (#310545) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg I'll be printing this out around 9PM EST if I can see through all the tears. Thank you so much. ~Susan |
02 Oct 00 - 08:00 PM (#310578) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Biskit Well I hope that you'll get this tonight.I pray for all three of you everynight, I've been doin' that since a couple o' days before I metcha. But I'll sure put a special word in tonight. I love you guys, you have become very special in my life, and I pray that God gives you peace. On a lighter note, My new Grandson is comin' for a visit tomorrow ! I'll take pictures and send you the best one! Lotsa Love all around, Donnie |
02 Oct 00 - 08:12 PM (#310584) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Áine Dear Hardiman (and you too, Praise), Can't remember where I heard this; but, it was a lady of a certain age (ahem) describing how hard she worked to do a 'good job' in her life, whether that meant with her family or in her profession. She had finally realized that she gave 110% every time, and the people she gave herself to always ended up 110% better off. However, she never got as much as she gave. How many of us have felt the same at some time in our lives. After getting to know the both of you here on the Mudcat, I firmly believe that both of you are the same kind of person (as are so many of the other wonderful Mudcatters). I know I'm taking the chance of sounding 'high and mighty' here; but, you are hereby given permission to give to yourselves, 110%. Yes, your congregation, family and friends may 'need' you, but if you don't give yourselves the same loving care that I know you both give all those you come in contact with, eventually you'll both find yourselves empty. Take some time each day to look at each other and say, "You are my love and my partner in life. I will take nothing from you that I cannot give in return. In your need, I will share my love and strength with you. And in my need, you will share your love and strength with me. Then we will never be empty, but always have each other in our hearts." And I'll share a little story with you that my daddy used to tell me when I near the point of giving up. My grandfather lived in a small Texas town during the 1918 flu epidemic. The pastor in town had to bury more than half of the folks there, and at one point, told my grandfather that he had lost his faith in God. My grandfather told him to remember the mustard seed, and that sometimes, God shows His love in the smallest of ways. A few days later, the pastor buried a baby boy beside his mother, father, and grandparents who had all died in the two weeks before. The only member of the family left alive was a little five year old girl, with shining yellow hair and crystal blue eyes, who was the only person able to come to see her little brother buried. The pastor struggled through the service, barely able to read the words in his Bible. After trying several times to continue, he gave up and fell silent. The little girl walked over to him, and took his shaking hand in her small hand. She gave his hand a little squeeze, and said, "That's all right, Pastor. They all know we're here. And God knows too. Don't worry, I know that He'll take care of us both from now on." That pastor died about 30 years later, after serving his congregation all that time, and he was buried beside that same family. Wishing you both all the love that I can give you, I know that you can pull through these hard times together. -- Áine |
02 Oct 00 - 08:13 PM (#310585) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Malcolm Douglas I'm an atheist and have no wish to be anything else, but I respect people who help others, however they do it. Best of luck to you. Malcolm |
02 Oct 00 - 08:27 PM (#310593) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: GUEST,roy1@wanweb.net I am looking for the words to a Hymn and I don't know the title and it is over 70 years old.The chorus goes like this. Take me back to Calvary,just let me tarry there. Where Jesus knelt and prayed for me It was all because he cared.The starting of one of the verses goes like this. (I would stand beside the Tomb) Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated My Mother used to sing this back in the 1930s Thanks Louie Roy |
02 Oct 00 - 08:48 PM (#310612) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Here's one for Hardiman, faithfull servant of God
Father,who art alone
For thou, our Father God,
O compass with thy love
Guard them from every harm
We are all travellers here Strength to ye mate. Yours, (always) Aye. Dave
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02 Oct 00 - 09:23 PM (#310625) Subject: Lyr Add: THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS From: Susan from California Praise and Hardiman, You are such a blessing, I hope this one that was written by my friends Tom & Jennifer Rufsvold bring you guys some comfort (and as I tell my students--I mean 'guys' in a non-gender specific manner *BG*) THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS
CHORUS: The Light shines in the darkness
VERSE 1: In the beginning was only the Word.
VERSE 2: All things were made through him nothing left out.
VERSE 3: Life came through Him This is done in a round and it is really wild sounding. If you want me to call you, Keith & I could sing it to you or your answering machine...PM me, and we'll try to find a good time! I've got to get speakers & a mic for HearMe!!!! Love and Prayers headed your way, Sue and Keith |
02 Oct 00 - 09:32 PM (#310632) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Mooh Dear Susan and the Fiddler, It's hard isn't it? I was raised by a clergyman and his wife, my parents, who were connected in love, life and Dad's calling. I'm not sure sometimes if they could have raised 5 kids to adulthood in any other way than they did. The church was an indispensible element of the equation of my upbringing. I saw first hand the profound results of the various stresses my folks endured, and I know I was affected too. I think I'm the better for it, for the hurt has passed and only the good remains. Dad conducted the funerals of his own parents some 40 years apart, and that of his first child at its birth. I can't imagine what that did to him and my mother, but they survived and somehow were the better for surviving it together. The hurt has passed, and only the good remains. Two months ago my Mum (she likes it spelt that way) called me to say that Dad had passed away in his sleep beside her that morning. There was no unfinished business between them, except for years they won't have to enjoy together. The hurt will pass, we know that by experience, and only the good will remain. This weekend I will likely participate in the disposition of my Dad's ashes. It will hurt, and I'm not looking forward to it, even though I suppose it means some kind of closure for me, but I know it will pass and only the good will remain. It is somehow trite to say that the current stress will pass, because it doesn't make it pass any more quickly. However, after the fact, there will a time of rest because God dictates it. What you learn, feel, and share will be the good you take from it all. The hurt will pass and only the good will remain. Please know that you are not alone in prayer. Please also know that there is a Thanksgiving for all things. Just as everything has a cost, a hurt I suppose, everthing has something for which to be thankful. My hopes and prayers are with you both. Peace, Mooh. |
02 Oct 00 - 09:35 PM (#310633) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Amergin I don't pray or nothing, but you, Hardiman, are in my thoughts.... |
02 Oct 00 - 09:40 PM (#310639) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Sorcha All that up there, and then some, for both of you. All the extra I have to spare right now.......... |
02 Oct 00 - 10:11 PM (#310649) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Tinker Whatever is forseen in joy Must be lived out from day to day. Vision held open in the dark By our ten thousand days of work. Harvest will fill the barn;for that The hand must ache, the face must sweat. And yet no leaf or grain is filled By work of ours; the field is tilled And left to grace. That we may reap, Great work is done while we're asleep. When we work well, a Sabbath mood Rests on our day, and finds it good.
WENDELL BERRY,Sabbaths
Remember, keeping Sabbath time is a commandment. For all those who toil in the Houses of the Lord taking time each day (if only in moments) to follow the ebbs and flows of life. Every project can survive a pause, every crisis a cup of coffee. Take a moment to feel the pat on the back that is waiting to help you along (or push you down to rest) and listen....."Come follow me, and I will give you rest" |
03 Oct 00 - 08:06 AM (#310839) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: CamiSu Hardiman, As another who puts others ahead of myself, I will offer what my friend who is praying with me gave me. God is doing the work and is taking care of you, too. I send you also the 23rd and 91st Psalms, which are really wonderful for finding rest, even when in action! Bless you both, and thanks Susan for your support of me in my efforts! I'll let you know how it is going! Gotta go start my rounds. Big hugs and backrubs! CamiSu |
03 Oct 00 - 08:42 AM (#310858) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Robby We've never had the pleasure of meeting, but I have a great respect for those who serve the Lord, whether or not we share the same religious. To help in this time, let me share the chorus of hymn we used to sing a Childrens' Mass where we once lived, for we are all children of the Father:
Come little children, come to me, May the Good Lord grant you the peace and serenity of his Love. |
03 Oct 00 - 09:34 AM (#310886) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: McGrath of Harlow This one always helps |
03 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM (#310895) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Peter T. Take some thought for yourself, Mooh. It doesn't matter when it happens, losing your father is something else. And I do mean something else. yours, Peter t. |
03 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM (#310897) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: sian, west wales An old sunday school 'motto' for children comes to mind: Dear Lord, be good to me. The sea is so wide and my boat is so small. And, with that, the Old-Time hymn which I have a habit of playing ad infinitum when I'm stressed ...
When peace like a river attendeth my soul, Thinking and praying for you both. sian, west wales |
03 Oct 00 - 11:59 AM (#311000) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg Oh you guys. Hardi loved it when I read all last night's posts to him, after the shock that I had EXPOSED his lack of perfect strength! And I see fresh perspectives that hep me help, too. You darlings. I forgot to tell you what else Hardi did when he joined Mudcat. He had been teaching himself fiddle for a pretty short while. So when he joined, he struck up a PM correspondence with three or four other new learners he spotted in the threads. That man wrote every one of them personally to encourage them, at great length, each message fresh although the info was often the same. No cut and paste for this man-- all fresh, all felt. Because these were folks who were kinda shy about getting the encouragment in the threads. He's like that. Works behind the scenes and never says a word about it, usually. So it is hard to see sometimes what has tired him so, behind the cheerful face as he looks for the next chance to serve a fellow human being. ~S~ |
03 Oct 00 - 12:43 PM (#311027) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: GutBucketeer Praise and Hardiman: I give all the support and wishes that I can. Thanks for being perceptive and providing supoort in the past! Sometimes, it doesn't seem like it is so, but over time you reap what you have sowed. You have both have sowed mightily in your lives. Sometimes, it doesn't seem like anyone notices, or appreciates, but I promise you, they (we) do. It may not seem like it now, but there will come a time when you can rest, look back on these times, and see the good that you did (and be glad that they are over). So wait for the rainbow after the shower. In the meantime Mudcat is here for you. JAB |
03 Oct 00 - 01:52 PM (#311085) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: KingBrilliant Will include in prayers Kris |
03 Oct 00 - 02:07 PM (#311108) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Bert Praise & Hardiman, Hang in there guys. Thinking of you. Love Bert. |
03 Oct 00 - 03:04 PM (#311186) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: GUEST Praise and Hardi, I have found that when things are tough thats when the tough get going, but I also have found that even the tough reach a limit. When my marriage was going down the tubes and Mom was in a hospice there were times when I felt there was no way out. Sometimes I wasn't sure if it was worth going on. I send the following story along with my prayers. One night, a man had a dream, He dreamt that he was walking along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life and in each scene he notice there were two sets of footprints in the sand, His and the Lords. When the last scene flashed before him, he looked back at the footprints in the sand and noticed that many times there were only one set. He also noticed that they occurred at the lowest and saddest points in his life. He said to the Lord, "Lord you said that once I decided to follow you you would walk with me all the way. Yet I noticed that in my most troubled times there were only on set of footprints. I dont understand, when I needed you the most you left me. The Lord replied, My precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you only see one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you. Hardi, As you do your Pastoral duties, with Love and Passion, Hurt and Sorrow, I am sure you also have a helping hand. Even with all of our prayers. God Bless, Sailor DAn |
03 Oct 00 - 03:31 PM (#311223) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: SINSULL Praise, For the sake of your congregation and your husband, take one day or one part of a day and let the world revolve around him if only for a few hours. Quiet time with a book, his favorite meal, music, just a walk together alone. It is his turn to be taken care of and your job to do. Love you both. Mary |
03 Oct 00 - 03:42 PM (#311234) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Peg I may have read it wrong, but is Hardiman's first name Greg? Ya know, my very first, ahem, "boyfriend"'s name was Gregg Hardiman, and Praise, am I correct in my recollection that you live in western NY state? If so, you just might be married to my first boyfriend! (I think we "dated" for all of three weeks in seventh grade) I wonder if he knows his ex is a card-carrying pagan now! Many blessings on you both... |
03 Oct 00 - 03:44 PM (#311236) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: mousethief I've heard of "missionary dating" before, but that's ridiculous! (grin) Prayers and kind thoughts for you both, Praise & Hardy.
Alex |
03 Oct 00 - 04:01 PM (#311249) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg Peg, no, that isn't our last name! LOL. Printing this and heading home shortly. Sinsull, yes, I figgered that out this AM, but it's amazing how easy it is to forget when I am up to my ass in alligators too. Keep reminding me. ~S~ |
03 Oct 00 - 04:04 PM (#311254) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Peg Praise: |
03 Oct 00 - 04:12 PM (#311262) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Wesley S It makes me wonder - Who ministers to the Minister?? I have to agree with Sinsull that you have to take time out to recharge the batteries every once in a while or you won't be any good to anyone."To thine ownself be true." And Praise don't forget to read him those lyrics I sent you by Pierce Pettis. They apply to Hardiman too. Take care and God bless the both of you. |
03 Oct 00 - 04:36 PM (#311285) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: mousethief Isn't it hard To be the one who gathers everybody's tears? Isn't it hard To be the strong one? --Bruce Cockburn
Alex |
03 Oct 00 - 04:41 PM (#311289) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Greyeyes Praise, have taken your advice and joined. I'm not religious but am thinking positive thoughts for you both. |
03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM (#311304) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg One last post and print here before home, and it welcomes a new friend, Greyeyes! (You will be hearing from me! *G*) I wish youse guys could see the PM and e-mails. May paste some in anonnymoused, tomorrow. ~S~ |
03 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM (#311305) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: SINSULL Praise, I know many truly strong women who every once in a while ask "When is it my turn to lean? When is it my turn to be taken care of?" Just a moment's rest. If you keep forgetting that, then you need one too. Take care of each other. Mary |
03 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM (#311405) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Mbo Hardi, I'm not sure if I can say anything better that what these fine folks have already. I will be praying for you. You are an amazing human being (even my Mom thought so!) and may God's hand tend you with care. BTW don't forget, you owe me a story! As for the dear departed friends you've had to lay to rest, remember Ben Franklin's epitaph:
The Body
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04 Oct 00 - 02:44 AM (#311712) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: BlueJay Hardiman- I pray you never tire. As a nurse, I've many times witnessed the comfort you folks of the cloth have given to the ill and their families. Your services are truly indispensible, and a well accepted part of the medical community. I understand this, because I am the nurse who calls you at 3 am to give you disturbing news, and I've seen the faces of the families who are so anxiously awaiting your arrival. My training and experience enable me to provide some small comfort, but it's not the same, they are waiting for you. And you've never taken more than a few minutes to arrive. God Bless you in your work. You are doubly blessed having Praise to aid you and bring this to all us Mudcatter's attention. Do try and play a tune, at least ocassionally. That's about all I can manage, and it is a great diversion. Thanks for all you've done, Jay |
04 Oct 00 - 03:09 AM (#311713) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Joe Offer Well, Susan, I wonder if you can get Hardiman to the computer long enough to play Hardiman the Fiddler for him. If not, there's Sheet Music Here and Various Formats here. One of those links will also take you to various formats of Hardiman's Fancy Jig. All the best to you both. -Joe- |
04 Oct 00 - 05:21 PM (#312221) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Tinker When I first started putting together this exercise, I was thinking of latchkey children and the fact that no child should every feel lost and alone. But I've since realized that we all need to exercise hospitality, and the newly bereaved, and the overworked are just as likely to take heart. Now take out your keys and put them in your hand. For just a moment think about the number of times a day you open a door. A car door, a work door, the door to home at the end of the day..... BEHOLD Behold,Behold,I stand at the door and knock,knock,knock Behold, behold,I stand at the door and knock,knock,knock. If anyone hear my voice,If anyone hear my voice... And will open,open,open the door I will come in... Try just for a day, to use your keys as a touchstone.. a prompt to welcome Christ to enter with you and be with you, in the "empty" house, the argumentative meeting,or just to take a ride. May the Lord be with you.... Tinker |
04 Oct 00 - 07:33 PM (#312346) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Bradypus It's better to feel tired than to feel nothing It's better to feel pain than to feel numb There may be an empty space Someone else will fill that place And it's good to know the best is yet to come It's hard to look around and see folk missing It gets harder still as month by month goes on Yet we know that by God's grace They are in a better place And it's good to know the best is yet to come God bless Bradypus |
05 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM (#313047) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Tinker "Works always in tranquility! Fuss and feverishness, anxiety, intensity, intolerance, instability, pessimism and wobble, and every kind of hurry and worry~ these even on the highest levels, are signs of the self-made and self-acting soul; the spiritual parvenu. The saints are never like that." "St. John of the Cross says that every quality or virtue which that Spirit really produces in human souls has three distinguishing characters, tranquility, gentleness, strength." ~~Evelyn Underhill, The Spiritual Life, pp.72&71.
Praise, did you know that the Ruach Elohim, the Spirit, the life breath of God in the Old Testament, is a feminine plural noun? (Somehow the guys always forget to mention it….) Many Eastern Orthodox Christians still revere the wisdom of the Spirit as Sophia, Lady Wisdom. When those oh so human fusses take over. Breathe. |
05 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM (#313048) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg These have really been helping. Hard part yet to come, this weekend. Could one of you please copy and paste the song request that is buried somewhere above in this thread and e-mail the requestor (royl) that this has occurred? I am modemically challenged. ~S~ |
05 Oct 00 - 06:02 PM (#313064) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: wysiwyg What I meant was, make a new thread for the song request... duh, tired here. Forgot you can;t mind read what I mean. OK. Although I will be online briefly tomorrow, it's a dead run from now till... the middle of next week, with one more funeral, an antique show to pull off, two visiting bishops and their wives, the Saturday night service, two services Sunday with the bishop's visit for baptism and celebration after, and then, collapse on Monday and Tuesday? No... clergy & spouses (spice?) conference Monday and Tuesday, meant to refresh but not usually so. And we are much more tired, Hardiman more so, than we should be. So it must mean another chance for God's strength to be in us and to show forth from us. So again I would just ask, "Please would you pray that Hardiman know the abiding strength and peace of our Lord and that he remain filled with the joy his ministry is?" Anything else won't reach us anyway until we have come back and rested. Thanks again for all your support. It goes out from us to all we pray for, as well. ~Susan~ |
06 Oct 00 - 02:34 AM (#313350) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: alison Prayers from over here too.... and some old favourites we used to sing
High King of Heaven after victory won alison |
10 Oct 00 - 10:37 PM (#315962) Subject: RE: Your MudSupport Is Requested From: Hardiman the Fiddler I just want to thank you all for the words of encouragement and the prayers offered on behalf of Praise and me during this past arduous week. The weeks aren't all usually that hectic---it seemed like everything happened at once. I really haven't had a chance to read this thread before now, although Praise read portions of it to me as we were dropping off to sleep each night. Having done what I do over the course of the last 21 years, I've learned a little something about trying to keep a balance, and I've learned that grace helps to carry me at those times when I wonder if it will be physcially possible to go on...but I am sure grateful for all your support and encouragement. As you may know, Praise and I spent the last two days at a clergy conference---these are usually a glorious opportunity to skip what's being presented and catch up on sleep...something which we both did! Thanks, and may God keep you all! Greg |