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Help: finding musical scores on the Internet

03 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM (#311395)
Subject: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: GUEST,leeneia

I would appreciate some tips on finding musical scores on the Internet. I have been trying to prepare a medieval piece called The Lament of Tristan (aka Lamento di Tristano) for the gang. The version I now have has mistakes in it, so I thought I'd look for a different version on the Internet.

When I asked Google to look for The Lament of Tristano, it found 1,830 pages. However, all of them I went to were merely scholarly articles that mentioned the piece in their text. Or else they were advertising for bands that had recorded the piece and wanted to sell me their CD. I searched the Google results page for "score" and "MIDI" but no luck.

I'm sure this famous piece is on the Web somewhere. Any tips on how to find it?


03 Oct 00 - 06:39 PM (#311397)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: catspaw49

Rock 52
Folk 3

Spaw


03 Oct 00 - 07:00 PM (#311417)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: GUEST,leeneia

What about them, exactly?


03 Oct 00 - 07:15 PM (#311426)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: Jon Freeman

I have found a MIDI Lamento Di Tristano on this page. Is this the one you want?

Jon


03 Oct 00 - 10:15 PM (#311561)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: GUEST,leeneia

Thanks, Jon. That't it, or part of it. But I would also like to know how you found it. Where did you go and what did you enter?


03 Oct 00 - 11:10 PM (#311605)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: IvanB

leenia, I did a Google search on "lament, tristan, midi" and had just 73 hits. Most of them were references to 'Tristan und Isolde,' but a couple were the correct one. A lot easier to delve through than 1830.

Interestingly enough, one of my hits had the same midi Jon referenced above, but it was not from the same site. These things do get around, in fact I have the midi file on my hard disc and I know it was from neither Jon's site or the one I got in my search.

One question - how are you going to determine whether a version has errors? Lamento being one of the more famous Medieval works, it has probably been 'folkified' more than most of the stuff we deal with on this forum. Seems to me it'd be quite hard to lay hands on an 'authentic' version.


04 Oct 00 - 03:34 AM (#311717)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: Jon Freeman

OK Lenia, Firstly I tried a Google for The Lament of Tristano with and without the words MIDI and or Score and noticed that the ones asking for music were yielding no suiatable results. At some point, I noticed the Italian Spelling and decided to try that spelling with MIDI and that one came up.

Jon


04 Oct 00 - 04:27 PM (#312161)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: GUEST,leeneia.

Okay, that's what I will try next time. As for the matter of errors, if a a song is in 3/4 and a measure in the middle of it has 5 eighth notes in it and every measure after that is funny-looking, then we can safely surmise that there is an error somewhere.


04 Oct 00 - 05:05 PM (#312191)
Subject: RE: Help: finding musical scores on the Internet
From: M. Ted (inactive)

Except that early music doesn't necessarily stay symetrical--In point of fact, it was not customary to delineate measures until relatively recently. Also, having listened to the MIDI(not that I am an expert, mind you), I think that the melody is rendered with much too strident a beat--best to contact the person who made the MIDI and ask what the source material was and what it actually looked like. I think you will find, when you break open the file, that there is an e-mail address embedded there, as well as a website (I got jcclark@csupomona.edu), --of course, you may not feel any great need to try get academic about it--Still, the arrangement is copyrighted--