13 Oct 00 - 12:13 PM (#318097) Subject: Goodbye From: Mbo There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye, I'm going home I hate the way that even though you know you're wrong You say you're right I hate the books you read and all your friends Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going home I hate the way that you are so sarcastic And you're not very bright You think that everything you've done's fantastic Your music's shite-- It keeps me up all night There's no need for you to say you're sorry Goodbye, I'm going home I don't care no more, so don't you worry Goodbye I'm going Home |
13 Oct 00 - 12:19 PM (#318102) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Are you borrowing the emotions of Oasis for personal expression here, Matt? Cool. |
13 Oct 00 - 12:26 PM (#318105) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson What are you saying here, Matt? I hope it isn't the message I'm reading. |
13 Oct 00 - 12:27 PM (#318106) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Yeah, a "goodbye for the weekend" is okay.... and the words are indeed fitting... :o) but come back soon |
13 Oct 00 - 12:38 PM (#318117) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Well he does go home each weekend... ~S~ |
13 Oct 00 - 12:42 PM (#318120) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Mrrzy As long as he comes back! |
13 Oct 00 - 12:50 PM (#318127) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg I can dig up a phone number over the weekend if we don't hear something. ~S~ |
13 Oct 00 - 01:08 PM (#318145) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Damn! He graduated from Meebs to Matt and now he's too good for us. |
13 Oct 00 - 01:26 PM (#318160) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Leave him be, he knows what he wants. |
13 Oct 00 - 02:11 PM (#318175) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson You're right Kendall but he adds a lot to this place. I know some don't care for his musical tastes but that just adds spice to the mix. BTW, Kendall, are you going to the Portsmouth thing this weekend? I'm headed down there on Sunday with my daughter and expect to meet some 'catters there. |
13 Oct 00 - 02:15 PM (#318179) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who still can't log in god.I need him here right now!!!Matt,i have my first twemty-one-years-old-sleepless-night right now and I need some expert advise to handle it!!!Darling come back!!! |
13 Oct 00 - 02:43 PM (#318195) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena who's impressed Now,don't tell me this is the first time I'm on on the 'cat and Miribo' is not there!!!! |
13 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM (#318201) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,the lone haranger advice from a 21 year old? hehehe thats funny! |
13 Oct 00 - 02:55 PM (#318205) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall as a matter of fact, I would like to go to Portsmouth, but, I'm commited to be at the Country Music awards show.Thats on Sunday all afternoon. |
13 Oct 00 - 02:59 PM (#318208) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Lena there we go.... |
13 Oct 00 - 03:07 PM (#318219) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Kendall, festival on Saturday too. Concert Sat night. (I know, I know - you got sumthin' to do. Maybe get the old binoculars out and going leaf-peeper watching..."Ooh look - there's a double-breasted nuthatch with Mass plates.") |
13 Oct 00 - 04:17 PM (#318281) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Irish sergeant Mbo: Hopefully you're not leaving this riotous little band for good. However, no matter your choice, go with your head up knowing that you have friends here who wish you well in all your endeavours. Kindest reguards, Neil |
13 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM (#318283) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 LOL!!! This place is a gas!! You people make the Marx Brothers look like straight men!
{~` |
13 Oct 00 - 04:33 PM (#318292) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Is this a challenge Jeri? ok I dont have the details on this festival. Got some details? Mbo will be back...he's just being theatrical... again. |
13 Oct 00 - 09:05 PM (#318409) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Mbo, I assume you are being serious here and at the risk of the wrath of other 'catters, I will be too. I find your words offensive. I think that a number of people have bent over backwards to help you and in their own ways have tried to offer their hand of frienship to you. I don't know what others have put up with but my latest reward from you has been to be more or less completely ignored by you in Hearme and I remember a recent night where you didn't even manage the common courtesy to say hello to anyone because you were in one of your sulks. I try to understand you but you have to face up to the fact that the world does not revolve around "MEEEEEEEEbo". Please just grow up, get a life and join in with those of us who try to welcome you even if our view points may be different. We all have those differences and most of us can agree to disagree and still stay friends. Jon ( who is only posting here rather than PM because of Mbo's "I think your music's shite...") |
13 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM (#318421) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Oversoul Tempest in a "D" cup. Al Gore is behind this. |
13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM (#318427) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha I don't know, davecoje. If I am reading this correctly, I think I am angry, and that my feelings are hurt, but I am withholding judgement for a few days. I, like Jon, dislike having my music called "shite" from someone I thought was a friend. I can't help but wonder just what is going on here. I hope, that as kendall says, he is just being theatrical. I shudder to think--just what is he saying "goodbye" to? I must say, I am a little concerned. |
13 Oct 00 - 09:52 PM (#318428) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Bill D after THAT post/poem/song, it had BETTER be goodbye...Gargoyle was easier to cope with than this! |
13 Oct 00 - 10:03 PM (#318433) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: MMario The original post is a (partial) set of lyrics by Oasis. I'm not sure why Matt posted them, but he's taken a lot of flak from others here at various times, so why not cut him a bit of slack? |
13 Oct 00 - 10:08 PM (#318437) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman MMario, with respect, I think that the question should be "Why does Mbo not cut slack for others?" Jon |
13 Oct 00 - 10:10 PM (#318441) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Hey Gang......We have all, especially me and a few others, been pushing hard on him to get the hell out into the 3D world. Finally, thanks to a CYS group at college and a Father Tom, he has gone on a few outtings and had a few nights with a group his own age who like much of what he likes and appreciate his talent. When we found out we encouraged it and many expressed how happy we were to see him experience real 3D life. If he's leaving completely or for awhile, this method is very natural. First, its natural to rebel and I'm glad he has that piece of normalcy in him. Then there is the same thing we saw with a lot of our foster kids. When it was time (for whatever reason) to move on, be it back home or on their own as adults,a strange thing occurred almost everytime and Karen and I came to expect it and even use it. It is more apt to happen when the person is insecure and the move to something else is a bit (or a lot) scary. They could not admit it was scary or that they feared the unknown....the future had to be GREAT!!! How do you make the unknown future great? Very simple....You make the present out to be the absolute PITS!!! Then the future is much brighter. I watched it happen repeatedly. Matt may still not understand that we didn't hate his music and that some of us are rock fans too....There is much he still does not understand. But he is out learning, spreading his wings......and if he has the crash or two, he needs to know that no matter what we are here. We all need to understand where he's coming from at this point.....and he is still socially a novice and has much emotional growth to go. Spaw |
13 Oct 00 - 10:17 PM (#318449) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll If he's gone, he's gone. If not ,not. People come and people go. Some do it with grace and style and some like spoiled children and some simply disappear for no apparent reason. The sun will come up in the morning regardless of what we do, so why not just accept what is. If I can't change it, I don't worry about it. troll |
13 Oct 00 - 10:30 PM (#318459) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha spaw, I hope and pray that is all it is............sounded like a cry in the wilderness to both Kate and I, and she is "closer" to his "place"? than most of us are. She is scared for her friend Matt. So am I. |
13 Oct 00 - 11:04 PM (#318477) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Rose Oh ferchristsake. this isn't the first time Mbo has checked out and it may very well not be the last. not the first temper tamtrum throw here, definately won't be the last. not the first passive aggressive attempt at sucking other folks in (poor "misunderstood" guy). that has happened on a regular basis and is getting fairly boring. Jon F. caught on a long time ago. say whatcha mean - mean whatcha say. |
13 Oct 00 - 11:13 PM (#318486) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri Kendall, festival info is in the What's On thread. The festival has a web page, with an event schedule. About Mbo, if he's gone, I sincerely hope he's found something he likes better. He hasn't seemed happy here for a while, judging by his comments about the sucky nature of folk music and folkies, and I think he only hung around as long as he did because he made some friends here. He was cut a huge amount of slack when he said those things. I honestly hope he's found something closer to what he wants, and I hope he stays in touch with the friends he's made here. |
13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM (#318487) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Reminds me of the time I transcribed the M*A*S*H theme song...
The game of life is hard to play
Suicide is painless I inadvertantly left this on the kitchen table,and my Mom found it and was in panic thinking I'd left it as a suicide note.She was relieved to find me asleep in my room and told me in the morning "I'd have hated it if you'd killed yourself,especially leavin' a crappy note like that behind." |
13 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM (#318488) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing I think you are right, Spaw. It is also hard for a kid to say goodbye sometimes, so they will pick a fight, piss everyone off, then leave in a huff. As I am sure some would welcome Gargoyle back and as Michael K. has come back, I would hope we would be open to Mbo's return, too. Nothing he has ever done, no matter how obnoxious, holds a candle to some of their past antics. kat |
13 Oct 00 - 11:24 PM (#318498) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Matt has some growing up to do but then most of us did at that age. I joined the Navy at 18 and got to see the world and experience people up close and personal. At his age while riding the grey funnel line I toured Plymouth, Edinburgh, Bergen, Amsterdam, and Bremerhaven. He needs to do something similar. Hopefully he's doing that right now. Whatever he's doing I, for one, wish him well. Sure he's touchy and short tempered, a little self centered. But how many of you could face the man with a rock in your hand? (i.e., let he who is without sin cast the first stone.) So far I have described almost any other human being. We all fit that description to some degree. You have to remember all the posts where people have described him as being bighearted and kind. Think of the things he has said that made you think and feel. Please don't focus only on those parts of Matt that pissed you off. Troll, you are right. People come and people go. If Matt is done with us then he is gone. I'd like him to think he can come back any time and be welcome. Jon, you have a right to your opinion and have clearly stated it. But is your opinion going to change any of us and our opinions? We are only humans. We cannot please everyone all the time. If we restrict ourselves to only saying the things that we know will not rile other people we are betraying ourselves and the people around us. The difference between us old codgers and Matt and his generation is that we are old enough to know how to do that gently. They still have to learn that lesson. Running up against our more short tempered members is hopefully teaching them that lesson. |
13 Oct 00 - 11:27 PM (#318503) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing In another thread, he posted that this weekend is homecoming and sounded excited about it. I hope he is out there having fun. |
13 Oct 00 - 11:29 PM (#318507) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Yesterday, when I was young...........can it really have been such a very long time ago? |
13 Oct 00 - 11:32 PM (#318509) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 YES Spaw |
13 Oct 00 - 11:40 PM (#318521) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: JamesJim Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Goodbye my little sugar darrrrlin' Goodbye my little sugar darlin' Never gonna see me anymore! (At least he said goodbye). Jim |
13 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM (#318522) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll SPAAAAW! A gentleman never reminds a lady of her age.
oh yeah. a gentleman. right. troll ***BG*** |
13 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM (#318526) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Actually, a gentleman never asks a LADY her age......So how old are you Sorcha? Spaw |
13 Oct 00 - 11:47 PM (#318531) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Ya REALLY wanna know? OK, brace yerselfs--------49 last Wednesday. Ancient. Older than dirt. Australia. Falling apart. And, sadly, it was just "yesterday".......... |
13 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM (#318537) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Naemanson, my objective was to state my opinion clearly, not to change minds and, as you suggested, this was achieved. I am content :-) Jon |
13 Oct 00 - 11:55 PM (#318543) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha and spaw, LADY is probably the least of the nasty things I have ever been called. Now, my friends new Briard, Lindy, IS a Lady and she is only 3.
Jon, not making light of your post/opinion, and in some ways I agree. I just hope you are right, and that he is OK. (My Corgi girl, Annie, is NOT a Lady, doesn't claim to be, and never will be. She is a Bitch, First Class. Deserves to live in my house.) LOL! *BG* Joke people, joke. |
14 Oct 00 - 12:07 AM (#318555) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jeri So maybe Mbo just went home and mooned us on his way out the door? |
14 Oct 00 - 12:11 AM (#318561) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Yeah, well, whatever it is, we're all mucking about with it a lot more than he is or is even necessary. AMF and Catcha' Later....... Spaw |
14 Oct 00 - 12:37 AM (#318575) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: bbelle I am amazed at the lack of compassion for this "child." I have witnessed his show of compassion for others more than a few times on this forum. Matthew came into the mudcat because of his love for music, our kind of music. So, he is much younger and his tastes have a more modern edge, he's exposed a few of us to good music that we, otherwise, might not have heard. He has been flamed by people using aliases and even threatened personally, to the point that he was afraid to use his name on the forum. He has been treated meanly by some people and accused of "hogging" the microphone on HearMe. I've been on HearMe with him and never evidenced this. What I did see was him taking up slack when everyone else was trying to make up their minds whether or not to sing. This young man is intelligent, and sensitive, and talented, and for adults to treat him like this is a sin. So Guest,lone haranguer and Guest,Rose ... train your little insect antennae on someone else. Please feel free to flame me ... jenny |
14 Oct 00 - 01:09 AM (#318590) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Well I was hoping that this was just a way of his leaving as Mbo and coming back in as Matthew, but so far I don't see him thus. Maybe it is just that he went home for the weekend, and that he didn't realize how the post would sound. I'll try to call him over the weekend. There may be another factor here I can tap into as well. ~S~ |
14 Oct 00 - 01:12 AM (#318592) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha PLEASE DO!! And I will, also, tomorrow morning. Too late tonight to disturb his folks. |
14 Oct 00 - 01:25 AM (#318596) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Sorch, if you have school and home numbers, please leave them in my PM box, they are at my office and I ain't. I will follow up on the other angle tomorrow. ~S~ |
14 Oct 00 - 08:30 AM (#318657) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Actually, I dont much give a damn what some snot nosed teen age philosopher thinks of my music.And furthermore, he wasnt always compassionate either. When I told you all that I had to have an operation on my throat, and was quite worried about it, Mbo's only comment was "Ask what Gordon Bok would do." That didnt sound like compassion to me, it sounded like more of his compulsive posting. Someone called him MMMEEEbo. Right on.If he found another sand box to play in, thats ok by me. Now..flame if you must, but STAND FROM UNDER if you do. |
14 Oct 00 - 09:35 AM (#318674) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: sophocleese This posting does not sound like the work of a sensitive, intelligent individual. It sounds bratty, whiney, self-centered and perhaps troubled. I think the earlier description of it as passive-aggressive behaviour seems suitable. He may have talent and I hope he grows up enough to use it with wit and empathy. But mostly I think he's still a puppy. Puppies can be cute and affectionate but they also need to be trained not to chew on the furniture or shit in the house. I have hopes that Mbo will turn into a decent dog and maybe the mixed bag of postings here will help. |
14 Oct 00 - 09:48 AM (#318683) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: alison Mbo, there are a lot of people here who care about you, and have offered you help and advice many times .... sure they don't all share your taste in music.... but it'd be a dull place if we all agreed with each other all of the time.... your song above is offensive, and comes across as a kick in the teeth to any of the people who have tried to help..... this isn't the first time you've said you were leaving and received all the "don't go" messages.... it's wearing very thin.... as is the sulking in hearme....time to grow up... and try to give back even a little of the respect that others have tried to give you..... slainte alison |
14 Oct 00 - 10:30 AM (#318697) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Sophocleese you made me laugh right out lous for the first time today...thanks. |
14 Oct 00 - 11:34 AM (#318725) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST click |
14 Oct 00 - 11:46 AM (#318732) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Thanks GUEST. So we didn't get ALL the words. troll |
14 Oct 00 - 11:50 AM (#318734) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Mooh Oh brother, here we go again. Yeah, Mbo adds to the wonderful world of Mudcat. So do lots of others. But for goodness sake let's keep our perspective. Gone or not, he's the boy who cried wolf if there ever was one. To swipe Soph's metaphor/analogy, he's being paper-trained at our collective expense. I just wish that he'd curb the crap postings and keep adding worthy postings because it's getting to the point where I avoid reading him if there's even a wiff of his bs. Thanks Soph, for the laugh. Oh yeah, and Mbo, assuming you're reading this, are you coming back next week or what? Mooh (using an Oasis disc as a coaster). |
14 Oct 00 - 12:06 PM (#318737) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg I only have the school number. ~S~ |
14 Oct 00 - 12:28 PM (#318754) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 LOL!!!! This place just gets funnier and funnier... He even came back in to make sure we knew where his 'message' lyrics came from!! LOL!!!!!!!! I used to be like that too... when I was 14.... LOL!!!!!! *pauses to wipe away laughter tears* This place is priceless... Catters fall all over themselves better than Jackie Chan!! LOL!!! Film at 11... <-: |
14 Oct 00 - 12:28 PM (#318755) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Metchosin Well my Shooglenifty friend, you've created quite a stir...... |
14 Oct 00 - 12:43 PM (#318763) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg I SO DUMB. DUBBLE-DUH! Me Red Cross AND pastor's wife, it only occurs to me NOW to call Father TOM!!!!! (I'm still smarter than you though!!) These things can take time. I'll let you know! LOL!!! I so DUMB!!! ~Susan |
14 Oct 00 - 01:03 PM (#318772) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Name Withheld I'm very worried about Matt/Mbo. For several weeks, he has frequently repeated that "Now That I've Taken My Life" is his favorite song. I hope that he was not dropping clues. I think that Kendall has been very mean to him and I hope that he hasn't gone over the edge. I know that I'll be flamed for posting as a guest. I don't care. I needed to say this and don't need the judgemental flames of Kendall and his friends coming down on me.
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14 Oct 00 - 01:06 PM (#318777) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha I just had an e mail from him, and he is not doing the suicide thing. There are other things wrong, but not that, so those of us who care can give a sigh of relief. Those of you who don't can go on about your business. |
14 Oct 00 - 01:19 PM (#318786) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL I like Matthew and if he is gone from Mudcat, I will miss him. But I actually am glad to see that he is moving on to "real" people. That is where he belongs. He owes a lot to some of the people here and the Matthew I know appreciates it. That applies to any of you who risked hurting his feelings or bringing down the wrath of the 'Cat by pulling him up short when he got out of line. Kendall, the more Matt fights you, the more he shows his need to have your respect. Jon, you're right. He crossed the line more than once. I remember a young man whose anger took the form of destroying instruments or tossing them in the sea. Matt needs to show it differently. Neither is appropriate. Please don't take this as criticism. I agree with your take on the "shite" crack - it was unnecessarily cruel. My point is that young men use anger against the things and people they love most. Clinton, I would love to hear SandyToes' take on this. She's put up with a "touchy" artist for years. Spaw, I believe you've got it right. Sometimes the only way a young man can walk away from security and take the next step is to turn on those he loves most and declare his independence. Mine came back three years later and was astonished to find his family waiting for him with open arms. Matt isn't gone for good. |
14 Oct 00 - 01:38 PM (#318798) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Guest, I have no need or desire to flame you, so, you think I was mean to him? Where were you when he made that asshole remark to me? |
14 Oct 00 - 01:43 PM (#318801) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Hi Sins......Glad you agree with my opinion because I certainly agree with yours. After time, every one of our kids have come back. They don't apologize, nor are they expected to......If they've grown as human beings, that is all we expect, and all have.....but they're still "works in progress".......so am I for that matter. Spaw |
14 Oct 00 - 01:46 PM (#318803) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall If I know him, he is probably lurking somewhere, laughing down his sleeve because some of us didnt recognize those words as that of some obscure pop song. At least I gave him credit for having written them! I must go off somewhere and try to figure out why I even cared... |
14 Oct 00 - 01:50 PM (#318804) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall As Oscar said in The Odd Couple,.."he's got them falling all over him..I'm thinking about getting hysterical myself!" |
14 Oct 00 - 01:54 PM (#318808) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson OK folks, break it up. There's nothing more to be seen here. Why don't you all go home and let things sort themselves out. Oh, you're already home. Well then let's go annoy another thread. To the Matt supporters, your hearts are in the right place but let's not go overboard. He needs to fly and he is doing the same thing young people have done for generations. If you love something let it go... To the Matt detractors, I'm sorry you feel about him as you do and I certainly won't argue the matter with you. I'm sure you feel justified and our discussion cannot change that. To the lurkers: See! We're human after all! |
14 Oct 00 - 02:26 PM (#318836) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Big Mick Matt, Sorry to see you go, it has been great having you here. Gave the place a different feel, you were kind of like our collective kid. You reminded me what it must have been like for Guthrie, Geer, Houston, Odetta and company when the spiritual heir(Dylan) to their legacy plugged in that electric guitar. Do well, keep in touch, get regular xercise, practice every day, and don't forget to eat your vegetables. Oh,.......and watch your mouth young man. You are not to old for a whuppin'. LOL. Mick |
14 Oct 00 - 02:37 PM (#318842) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Groucho Marxist (inactive) Mick, By the time Dylan went electric in 1965, Cisco Houston had been dead for four years and Woody Guthrie was into the final stages of his battle with Huntington's Disease (he died in 1967). I don't think it would have bothered Odetta because she did albums with electric backing in the '60s herself (she did a great version of "Strawberry Fields Forever"). As for Will Geer, he was an actor whose connection to folk music was primarily through friends like Woody and Cisco. Groucho |
14 Oct 00 - 02:51 PM (#318848) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Clinton Hammond2 What's a SandyToes? |
14 Oct 00 - 04:00 PM (#318888) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Big Mick Hey Groucho.............bite me!!!! What the hell you doing, throwing research and appropriate dates on me when I am trying to wax poetic. I hate it when the facts get in the way of a good story. It just ain't the Irish way........hahahahahahaha..............it was meant as a rhetorical comment on the furor caused by Dylan leaving the "pure form". You are absolutely correct on Houston at that time, but I believe that I read in Joe Klein's that Gutherie and he had become disenchanted with Dylan early on over some of this stuff. I will have to go pull that out and find the timeframe. Interesting, your take on Geer. While it is true that he was never a singer on the level of the others, he was surely a singer. I believe he performed extensively in the Village. I will check that out and get back to you. In fact he apparently said that every time Gutherie stayed at his place he had to replace his Martin guitar as Woody would borrow it. Anyway, Matt, ignore that picky prick Marxist and take the message for what it is worth. Mick |
14 Oct 00 - 04:10 PM (#318892) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 And you keep spelling Guthrie wrong too you big dumb Mick. ......Geesis, the boy can't get anything right! Spaw |
14 Oct 00 - 04:14 PM (#318896) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Once when I was young a friend who was involved in peace movcement stuff with me phoned my home and asked my mother if I was there, and she said something about me not being there any more, and the lad, being of a melodranatic disposition, took it that I'd gone and died. So he was ringing round and organising a memorial service and so forth. Fortunately I ran into him before he'd got too far with it.
But if he had got a bit further, and there'd been people saying what a great fella I was and how they'd all miss me, I imagine it might have been a bit embarrassing for everyone, including me, if I turned up again.
So I'm wondering if Mbo might have just posted that Oasis song because he liked it, and was feeling like sharing it with us, and he never got round to adding in the explanatory bit, or left it out on purpose, as a jeu d'esprit, on the eve of going off for a break.
In which case how's he going to feel reading all this stuff? Especially the nice bits, anyone can shrug off insults, but sincere tributes are a bit harder. You know, I think if it was me, I'd get meself a new cookie and come in as a stranger.
Did they show Reginald Perrin on TV in America? |
14 Oct 00 - 05:03 PM (#318918) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Bill D old Country song title:(no song to go with it that I know of)
"How Can I Miss You, If You Won't Go Away" |
14 Oct 00 - 05:12 PM (#318925) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Metchosin Sure there is Bill ala Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks |
14 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM (#318934) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing McGrath, YES! They did show Reginald Perrin; one of our very favourites!!! |
14 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM (#318940) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Peter T. Hey, Mick, did you get sucked into the election after all? yours, Peter T. |
14 Oct 00 - 06:04 PM (#318946) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Amos SONG FOR MEEBO GONE (sniff!) He was a friend, and a friend always So here's to you, Grow it long now, Mbo! and they will come!! Warmest regards, A |
14 Oct 00 - 06:10 PM (#318949) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Amos, I was about to kick your ass for some sappy ramblin' boy stuff til I got to the last couple of lines. And try to get the boy on a riceburner......Do you want him broke down in East Bumphuk?? Spaw |
14 Oct 00 - 06:19 PM (#318951) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Amos Gotcha, Big Spaw -- it was a setup. Harleys are the TQM Revolution made manifest, man!!! Better than Toyotae, right?? BTW, you heard any performance/quality info on those new beautiful mosheens using the old Indian name and the Harley racing engine? ...I can dream, can't I? A |
14 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM (#318960) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: catspaw49 Sorry I haven't.......But I think theyr'e calling it "Native American" instead though........... Spaw |
14 Oct 00 - 06:47 PM (#318967) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Sorcha.. You are only 49? Hell girlfriend, I've got SOCKS that are older than that.**BG** troll |
14 Oct 00 - 07:17 PM (#318977) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Make my Day!, Troll LOL ref: the new "Indians"--Kate and Bubba saw a couple at Sturgis this year. Said they were beeeeuuutifulllll. Don't know how they run, tho. 2 Harleys in this household, and they are in the shop more than out.....but will boys switch? Hell NO! Harley's kinda remind me of 57 Chevy's--ya gotta like to "tinker" with 'em. |
14 Oct 00 - 07:28 PM (#318983) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: bbelle Sorchie ... '57 Chevys and '57 Corvettes. Yum, Yum. moonpie |
14 Oct 00 - 07:29 PM (#318985) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Harley Davidson is about to produce its own brand of computer..it will hit the market as soon as they figure a way to make it leak oil. )and make unnecessary noise, and vibrate) |
14 Oct 00 - 07:40 PM (#318987) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: katlaughing That's First Nations, Spaw!!! **BG** |
14 Oct 00 - 11:35 PM (#319056) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Amos, The only problem I've found with the new "Indians" is the belt driven Primary(bad idea)with the dry clutch,(worse idea)The S&S superstock 88 cubic inch is cool enough, and yeah they do look real spiffy,but other than the seat and the frame(and the little lit up indian head on the front fender)everything else is after market stuff that you could put together yourself for 8 to 9,000 dollars less! An' that my friend is alot o' Rasin Pie. Peace-Biskit- |
14 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM (#319059) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit There are a few of us "57" classics around,lessee,Nomad, Stingray,an'Me! -Biskit- |
14 Oct 00 - 11:57 PM (#319064) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sourdough Avoiding totally the topic of Mbo, I ant to carry on the thread creep: I am getting ready for a May 2001 trip from California to Connecticut and back on my bike, a well tested 1983 R-80RT from the wonderful folks at Bavarian Motorcycles. I've been looking at other bikes thinking that taking an 18 year old machine that I have put 80K miles on is risky but it is such a good bike. Twice I have had 1000 mile plus days. This is a real road eater. Present plan is to have the engine "refreshed" and the bike painted and then do it. I do get some oil drops, three or four, after a yhard ride and it offends my aesthetic sensibilities and motorcycles are an aesthetic experience as well as other things. I like getting the bike out in the world, putting it alongside other bikes (it looks great) and then seeing how many of those bikes it takes to add up to my motorcycle's total mileage. Yes, I have looked at the Harleys, Gold Wings and the new touring bikes including the Native American but I am pretty sure I am going to Go Deutsch on my Deutsch Treat. Sourdough |
15 Oct 00 - 12:00 AM (#319065) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg troll, don't you call my bes/bud a Hell girlfriend! She IS a hellion though. Hmmm... (Joke.) ~S~ |
15 Oct 00 - 09:18 PM (#319494) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg Click Posted that just before and don't want to repeat myself that quickly. Somebody (I don't know who) seems to be thinking that there is something funny. There isn't, friends. Joerg |
15 Oct 00 - 09:24 PM (#319496) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Joerg, can you please e-mail me since we can't exchange PM's? (I may not get it till AM unless you are quick.) ~Susan motormice@hotmail.com
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15 Oct 00 - 09:38 PM (#319500) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Re: Harleys and Folk Music Rant On! I just came from the Portsmouth (NH) Sea Music Festival and have a new opinion of those damn machines. Admittedly the venues weren't great but the Harleys roaring past every 15 seconds or so certainly didn't help at all. The love affair with loud engines offends me anyway as I sit here listening to the eternal ringing in my ears. The prevalent lack of consideration on the roads today is starting to wear down my generally benevolent outlook on life. If it isn't roaring engines then it's stereos throbbing the bass beat out into the atmosphere. Where and when will it stop. Do these people even have a clue that there are people out here who don't care to hear them? Rant Off! |
15 Oct 00 - 09:55 PM (#319505) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Whooo-ee! Good rant!!! Awards show, The Ranties! Yer nominated! ~S~ |
15 Oct 00 - 10:32 PM (#319517) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Just wanted to let you know that I have exchanged several short e-mail messages with Matthew this weekend as he was engaged in an intense school project with an impossible deadline. My sense of it is that we may not see him around here for awhile, but you never know. What I think was my clearest message to him tried to convey that I wish him well if he is moving on-- I think I said go go go, and go away from Mudcat if you must, but don't go away from the friends you made here, right? (Like myself.) Right? He answered affirmatively. I still do not understand exactly what the last straw was. I've asked him if he and I have anything to clear up, and that's about all I feel responsible for. I can see there has been a last straw for a lot of you, too, over this, and I think from your own viewpooint you are more than completely justified. And I didn't come into this thread now to speak for him. But to say to those of you who are his friends, not just fellow Cafe-denizens-- you do have his e-mail address, right? If not it is listed in Mudcat Resources, ya know. I am hoping that I did a good enough job at my end of being his freind that he will of course want to stay in touch. So I would just encourage you to look to what has been good about your own friendship with him, and start there in this new time. We have two boys his age in the Navy who left like this but stayed in touch as much as they could once the real world kicked into their awarenesses. Now it's our daughter. Same thing. Well, it falls to the adults among his friends here to be adults, IMNSHO, as he starts acting like the really busy college kid he is. ~Susan
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15 Oct 00 - 10:40 PM (#319519) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson Thanks, Praise, for checking on him and letting us know. |
15 Oct 00 - 11:07 PM (#319527) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg RANT ON, PRAISE GETS A TURN TOO, DAMMIT. Yeah, no problem. I'm gonna be on the Cat a lot less myself the next two weeks. Hope you check on me. I have a hard 3D job to wrap up. Pore me. I'm awful tired. Wouldn't take back a thing I've done in the last week, but time to pay the cost in rest and get that job DONE. I suppose I can always start sleeping during the funerals. I was pretty worried about Matt there too. RANT OFF. Dear Brett. And all MudFriends. ~Susan |
16 Oct 00 - 04:48 AM (#319624) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lena Thank XXX.I kept on popping in this thread checking for an apparition of his.I'm beginning to miss him really.
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16 Oct 00 - 06:22 AM (#319650) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson I know what you mean about a hard wek coming up in 3D world. Our office gets audited this wek for the first time in 4 or 5 years. And there is only one pair of shoulders on which the responsibility rests. I already feel the awesome weight this morning. Have a good week, Praise and all. As good as you can under the circumstances. Hail Caesar, We who are about to die, salute you. |
16 Oct 00 - 10:00 AM (#319768) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,John D. Matt hasn't gone anywhere. :o) |
16 Oct 00 - 10:41 AM (#319800) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall I know what you mean about the noise of a motorcycle..these guys seem to have their manhood wrapped up in a noise..pitiful! I've also wondered if someone was to string a piece of piano wire across the road about neck high, would this type of boob miss his head? Hell he never uses it anyway... |
16 Oct 00 - 10:49 AM (#319805) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall that was not a threat or a suggestion, so, no shocked responses please. |
16 Oct 00 - 11:13 AM (#319818) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Liz the Squeak Geez, ya go away for a weekend to meet mudcatters and get back to find that the other lot have decided to leave! Praise, I'll PM my EMail to you, please pass it to Mbo and he can get in touch if he'd like to. I don't know about Mbo getting a life, there are lots of folks here who could do well to just put the keyboard down and go talk to a real person once in a while..... LTS |
16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM (#319819) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit No shocked response here Kendall, that's just the sort of lame,narrow minded, tunnel visioned crap that I'm starting to assiciate with your name.-Biskit- |
16 Oct 00 - 11:14 AM (#319820) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg I forgot my manners, and I made a thread about it. Anyone else who feels like that is welcome over here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=26526&messages=2 ~Susan |
16 Oct 00 - 11:21 AM (#319830) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit "associate" |
16 Oct 00 - 12:02 PM (#319859) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Biskit - that was humor. Much like my wish to deep fry the McD's manager's genitals. If you don't like it, say so but no name calling, please. It can only get nasty. |
16 Oct 00 - 12:35 PM (#319884) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Name calling is ok, so long as they are funny names. Slobberdegullion for example. Try here for some other choice examples of the art. |
16 Oct 00 - 01:05 PM (#319903) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: annamill Sorcha, you're coming to the best part of life. You're about to enter the free part. Relax and enjoy it. As my ex used to say 'Think of the alternative' ;-) As for Mbo, bye. Love, annamill |
16 Oct 00 - 01:09 PM (#319910) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST ok maybe I should off myself |
16 Oct 00 - 01:15 PM (#319918) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Yeah Sorch. It's all downhill from here. WHEEEEEEEEEE troll ***BG*** |
16 Oct 00 - 01:18 PM (#319921) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Troll Actually, it's not ALL downhill. It's down this hill and up that one and down it and miss the curve and through the fence and across the field and into a pond full of duckweed but I think you get the idea. troll*** combing duckweed out of my eyebrows |
16 Oct 00 - 01:27 PM (#319932) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Sorcha, I love being 53. I get away with so much more than at 23. Everyone assumes I gettinbg "funny" or menopausal. Mary |
16 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM (#320052) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit I didn't lower myself to name calling.The only name I called was Kendall,and I believe he answers to that one. As for me, my manhood, and my motorcycle are both still intact.idea for Kendall though,...next time you see one of "those Guys", with their manhood wrapped up in noise, step right up and state your case.-Biskit- |
16 Oct 00 - 04:22 PM (#320075) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall you looking for trouble sonny? as Shakespere said "If you spend word for word with me, I shall make your wit bankrupt."
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16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM (#320092) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg ...sssssneak!........ And in a flash, there I am, standing in between Biskit and kendall, who are nearly toe to toe.... My! What a nice place to be! Lessee, who gets my front... kendall, since Biskit and I have met and hugged and he knows the layout awreddy. Besides, if I face you, Donnie, the look on your face is liable to crack me up and THIS IS SERIOUS! You both nicely distracted now? Oh goody! ~S~ |
16 Oct 00 - 04:40 PM (#320094) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL OOOPS. Sorry Clinton. I was thinking of Chuck Hemrick. CH - there's the connection. By the way, tomorrow is Chuck's birthday. Sandy Toes is his SO. |
16 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM (#320216) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Biskit Nooooo..not really lookin' for trouble(*Grin* an'a peck on the cheek for Susan)I just believe a man of such obvious inteligence and wit should temper his sharp tongue with compassion for ones fellow man, I mean after all Shakespear,..WHOA Dude! Otherwise someone might think you a pompous, blustery old fool who hides behind his computer and cares nothing at all about other peoples feelings.OOOOps sorry Susan that just kinda slipped out... *Grin*w/much blushing.-Biskit- |
16 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM (#320228) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: wysiwyg Donnie. You tickled me as you reached over my shoulder with that! Shame on you, tickle a girl. (Psst! Tavern 3 coming up! And no barfights!!!) ~S~ |
16 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM (#320371) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall Hey, I didnt aim that at anyone in particular, but, you are right, I AM narrow minded in some ways. For instance, I believe I have a god given right to be able to listen to my TV or stereo with my widows and door open, without having them blasted into silence by some noise worshipping dude on a "Crotch Rocket" And a few years ago, I had one ripping back and forth by my house, so, I did confront him and asked why he had to make so much noise. As best I can determine from his limited IQ he thought it was fun..None of the neighbors did. Right now, he is doing 5 years for drugs.Ah.. blessed peace and quiet. Praise, there will be no fight.. just an old fart running his mouth! He's harmless..(And, if you believe that, you will also believe there will be a Richard Simmons Jr. too) Sorry Biskit, no personal insult intended. |
16 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM (#320388) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg kendall, biskit - didn't you know that Shakespeare can be ridden and a motorbike can be cited? It's all the same: you can do it the loud way or you can do it the good way. Once you do it the good way you might hear people calling: "Louder, please!" In reverse ... well, there are few who dare to say "Better, please!", especially as this is an insult. Most people just get upset, without actually wanting to insult someone. ;-) Praise - just sent an email to you. Sorry for being so late. Joerg |
16 Oct 00 - 11:42 PM (#320498) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: hesperis *sheesh* |
17 Oct 00 - 12:05 AM (#320518) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha Maybe we need to start a new thread called MudCat Motorcycles? And kendall, "Crotch Rockets" are obnoxious. They have a high pitched whine, sort of like a small chain saw. I admit Harleys are loud, but it is a deep, distinctive rumble that is not painful to either the ears or the gut. To some, it is actually soothing, and seems to be always "ignorable", IMHO. It certainly is not as painful to me as loud car stereos, or "crotch rockets" . Oh well. To each his own. I am not a "rider" because I do not like the Wind In My Face, and I hate other people's loud noises too, but the rumble of a Harley on the highway really doesn't bother me. |
17 Oct 00 - 12:45 AM (#320536) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: DougR On the highway, Sorcha, I would give you no argument. In my neighborhood, forget it. DougR |
17 Oct 00 - 01:37 AM (#320568) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Sorch,I'm a rider myself.Cut me and I bleed Yamaha.I have heard Harleys that were so goddam loud that it sounds like an explosion when they're started.I put those guys in the same class as the goofy teenager who blasts his obnoxious music through his car stereo because it's no fun unless everyone else gets to hear your music too.I know plenty of warm and friendly Harley folks,but I think the Biker Icon of the Hell's Angel encourages a lot of assholes and people who want to be assholes to buy Harleys,put on the colors,and lean on other people's sensibilities. Sorry. |
17 Oct 00 - 01:50 AM (#320580) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Sorcha No sorry there, LeJ. I am with all of you on the deicble level of a what ever. Loud noises, of a certain pitch, do bother this "deaf" lady, and so do loud car stereos of things I do not want to listen to. But--- The "rumble" of a Harley is still distictive, and recognizable to an "afficiando" and I guess that is part of the "cult mystique?" Hell, I don't know, I don't ride at all, I just live with 2 guys who do. |
17 Oct 00 - 02:22 AM (#320596) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Liz the Squeak Give me the gut rumble of a Harley over the boom boom boom of certain car stereos any day! You know the ones, where the damn thing is so loud the entire back end of the car vibrates..... At least Harleys look pretty (by the way, saw an amazing Yamaha Classic something, at Llanfair, apparently it's local and can be seen outside the chip shop every Friday - chrome on the chrome and a noise that makes Harleys sound like an angel's fart.....)these damn boom boxes are usually stuffed into the back of a Ford Fiesta or a manky old Escort.... We get them up and down our road, and you can hear the damn stereo before you hear the car! There is one that is so full of speakers, there is no back seat anymore, or boot (trunk), just speaker..... sheesh! LTS |
17 Oct 00 - 02:27 AM (#320599) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Lonesome EJ Yeah,I like the "throaty rumble" vintage Harley sound.What I object to is the high-pitched brrraPPP_PAP_PAP glass-pack snapping sound they are putting in the mufflers of some of the new ones. |
17 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM (#320687) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: kendall unnecessary noise is unnecessary noise no matter where it comes from, and people who delight in making unnecessary noise, are, IMO...unnecessary. Believe it or not, I am an ex biker! I gave it up because there are more assholes in cars than on bikes. My wife (at the time) and I were riding in St. Martin, when we rounded a curve, some dink in a car met us on the wrong side of the road. I had no place to go but OFF the road, and, of course there was a rock pile there at the point of enrty. I wound up on the bottom, she wound up on top, and the bike in the middle. My right hind leg took months to get back to normal, and, I havn't ridden since. |
17 Oct 00 - 08:46 AM (#320725) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: McGrath of Harlow Do Americans use the expression "On your bike!" ?Meaning "Get lost" - I'm just curious. |
17 Oct 00 - 08:51 AM (#320728) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: SINSULL Sorry Kendall, but you lost me back at the "open widows ...blasted into silence ...by CROTCH ROCKETS." Poor ladies. Sounds like you live in a rough neighborhood. |
17 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM (#320745) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Kendall, I had motorbikes for several years - only small ones like Honda 250s but I covered quite a few miles. I think that the best bit of riding advice I was ever given was "assume that every car driver is a maniac out to kill you". I am just wondering if I am alone in thinking that those who have ridden motorbikes (and survived) are a lot more aware of the road than people who have only driven cars. Jon |
17 Oct 00 - 09:21 AM (#320768) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: rabbitrunning Do you realise how hard it's going to be to get mad at the motorcycles revving outside my window at midnight when I'm think of them as "crotch rockets"???? *gasp* *chuckle* *SNORT!* |
17 Oct 00 - 09:47 AM (#320796) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST M of Harlow.... This Yank has never heard that expression before. Goodbye. I am leaving because I am bored. -- George Saunders' dying words. |
17 Oct 00 - 02:50 PM (#321024) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Naemanson You know I mentioned the noise as being obnoxious but there is still, on visceral level, an appreciation of the low rumble of a Harley. The problem is that some riders get their manhood wrapped up in the sound level and do what they can to make it louder. These are people who do not understand the philosophy of "speak softly and carry big stick". They haven't figured out that a quiet competant person carries more weight than the brash loudmouth. The same thing goes for motorcycles. |
17 Oct 00 - 03:15 PM (#321054) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: Jon Freeman Not sure Namaenson, Harleys with their rumble, buzzing 2 strokes, old British thumpers (ever seen a Panther 600 - ?650 single?), BMWs and the Japanese stuff, etc. have all had their appeal to me even though I have not had the pleasure of riding many of them (have ridden up to 900s when I was young and before I cared about the law though...). I like to think that all these machines offer something although I would be inclined to agree that the quieter ones tend to be the better ones. I got myself banned (fortunately on my own Honda CB 200) for drink and driving when 21 and I accepted (rather than kicked aginst) that I deserved the ban... Jon |
17 Oct 00 - 04:48 PM (#321144) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: InOBU HEY MBO! Being a young fella is tough, we have all been through it. BUT, to many folks around here get out of the kitchen rather than sticking around in the fray. All that folks say to each other, we still kinda like each other. Look, Richard Bridge and GeorgeH and I got fairly heavily into it discussing Ireland, and I can say, I think we are good friends. So, stick around old friend, and get old and grey like and with the rest of us... Larry |
17 Oct 00 - 06:36 PM (#321266) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: DougR Ugh ...question. Is this still the Goodbye thread? DougR |
17 Oct 00 - 09:15 PM (#321402) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: GUEST,Joerg Obviously, DougR. :-DDD Cheers to Mbo! Joerg |
17 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM (#321508) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: ddw Just a by-the-by..... Around here the term "crotch rocket" is pretty well confined to the likes of the Kawasaki 900 Ninja and such bikes, but a fellow I work with came up with a better name — "donor cycles." david |
18 Oct 00 - 03:38 AM (#321597) Subject: RE: BS: Goodbye From: alison Nurses who work in ICU's call the "donor cycles" too.....and they see an awful lot of donors..... slainte alison |