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BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?

21 Oct 00 - 03:07 PM (#324077)
Subject: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Mrrzy

I was just trying to figure out what the first thing I asked the Mudcat was (I think I remember but I can't find the thread I remember starting...) - so, no fair looking it up, what do you remember about your First? I think mine was for the rest of the words to I had a little nut tree, and (if I remember correctly) it wasn't answered. So part II is, was your question answered to your satisfaction? Just curious!


21 Oct 00 - 04:14 PM (#324093)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Lonesome EJ

Hell no my question wasn't answered...just look! ignore the rookie


21 Oct 00 - 05:33 PM (#324155)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Little Neophyte

I can not remember what my first posting was exactly but I distinctly remember Big Mick thinking I was some kind of UFO that had landed on the Mudcat Forum and he was just about ready to call in the CIA to investigate when I explained to him I am just a new member.

Little Neo


21 Oct 00 - 05:41 PM (#324158)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: GUEST,Mark Cohen who should be working

Oh, yes, I asked for the words and singer of a version of "Dog and Gun" that is different from the one in the DT. I recorded it from the radio in 1982 or so, and lost the tape. I'd written a new last verse, that tied up some loose ends. I did get some interest in the "epilog" idea on a much later thread, but never found out anything about the song. That's OK, though, I still love you guys. My next attempt not only identified the song I wanted (Ian Campbell's "Apprentice Song") but in true Mudcat tradition sparked an amazing discussion of British hand tools.

Aloha,
Mark


21 Oct 00 - 05:55 PM (#324167)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: DougR

My first request (probably around May or June, 1999, was for the lyrics to a Scottish song, "Think On Me." No one knew the song, except someone named Mary Jane who recognized it as a song on a CD titled "The Hills Of Lorne." I ordered the CD, then later found the name fo the publisher and ordered the sheet music.

DougR


21 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM (#324182)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Matt_R

I came looking for the lyrics to "Is Ar Eireann Ni Neosfain Ce Hi", which I had just heard Dervish sing on The Thistle & Shamrock. PJ Swan got them to me within the hour...I knew I'd stay.

--Matt


21 Oct 00 - 06:29 PM (#324187)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: MMario

my first post is no longer in the archive.


21 Oct 00 - 06:34 PM (#324191)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Liz the Squeak

I can't remember but for a laugh, go and look up your own cookie history..... you'll all get a shock when you discover just how many times you've posted here.....

LTS


21 Oct 00 - 06:38 PM (#324193)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Liz the Squeak

Just checked..... it was 1813 posts ago, on a thought for the day Oct 30th 1999 - I'm nearly a year old!!

LTS


21 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM (#324196)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Morticia

I've just been for a look......852.....in December last year......hung around making smart arse comments and a nuisance of myself for quite a while, but when I did ask a question.....insomnia and helpful hints to cure it.....I got a huge and incredibly helpful response.Now i'm back to making smart arse comments and a nuisance of myself *BG*


21 Oct 00 - 07:00 PM (#324204)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: catspaw49

I really don't recall what my first thread question actually was, but my first post answered or added to info on a thread about Open D tuning........Almost 8000 posts ago in late December of '98.

Spaw


21 Oct 00 - 07:04 PM (#324207)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Mrrzy

Lonesome EJ, that thread is a howl. I hope you think so... and how is this you check your cookies, guys?


21 Oct 00 - 07:07 PM (#324210)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Liz the Squeak

click on your own name in a thread, it will link you to your personal page. When the page is loaded (about 30 secs for mine, probably about 2 hours for Spaw), scroll down to the bottom. The number on the left side is how many and the bottom post is your first, to which thread and when. Click on it and you can read it again.... who needs history lessons?!

LTS


21 Oct 00 - 07:53 PM (#324234)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: MMario

I remember my first post, but it is actually gone. Then I posted for a while before signing up.


21 Oct 00 - 07:56 PM (#324235)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Rosebrook

A little over 3 years ago, I believe my first post was asking for information about "translating" the song Eppie Morrie.


21 Oct 00 - 08:07 PM (#324239)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Helen

I looked it up, to check if my memory was correct. I had discovered the DT a while before & had used it to look up a few songs, but a friend needed to know the name of a song and only had one verse of the lyrics. In May 1997, after a long and fruitless search on the net I submitted my request here and was answered within half an hour by Frank Phillips. The song was called The Dutchman, by Michael Smith. That was 25,000 threads ago.


Click here

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=1670

So, you can all blame Frank Phillips for being so darn helpful, informed & prompt for making me want to keep coming back for more.

Helen


21 Oct 00 - 08:16 PM (#324243)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Ely

Not sure. Possibly my request for the words to Norman Blake's "Orphan Annie", which I cannot decipher from the recording. Nobody else knew them either, I guess, 'cause it disappeared right away.


21 Oct 00 - 09:53 PM (#324270)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: catspaw49

Okay Mario, I'll bite..........What happened?

Spaw


21 Oct 00 - 10:00 PM (#324271)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Lepus Rex

My first post was to answer someone's question. The answer was the dumb Swedish band, Rednex. That's all I want to say about that. :)

---Lepus Rex


21 Oct 00 - 10:07 PM (#324274)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Matt_R

You mean they guys who did "Cotton Eye Joe" from their album Sex & Violins? That's a cool song!


21 Oct 00 - 10:14 PM (#324278)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Little Hawk

I posted a few times as a guest, and promptly got labelled "a troll" by a member. I was so inexperienced at Forums or chat groups or whatever that I didn't even know what that word meant, aside from a creature out of Norwegian folk tales...I was soon accepted as a genuine folkie, however.

I joined up under "Little Hawk" later that day. There were a whole lot of dumb threads at the time, like "Why are most mudcatters white?" and "Why aren't most Mudcatters musicians?", and so on.

In reaction to those, I launched a satirical thread of my own called "Why are most Mudcatters human?". It aroused critical and angry responses from some people, who missed the irony completely, while others got into the spirit of it, and made some pretty hilarious comments. Lepus Rex, for example, (his name means Jack Rabbit), protested, saying "How dare you assume that I am human?" It turned into a pretty neat thread after awhile.

So...my first official posting as Little Hawk was to that same thread, and I will paste it below....

As long as we're trying to find out why most mudcatters are white and heterosexual, this is obviously a question worth asking, don't you think? I mean, it's really quite surprising that we don't have a solid contingent of felines, considering we are mudCATTERS, after all. Then too, my dog howls every time I play the harmonica. Why isn't he a mudcatter? Maybe if we changed the name to the "Muddog Cafe"... We don't have any Martians either. By golly, I think it's time we got to the bottom of this. Without delay.


21 Oct 00 - 11:40 PM (#324296)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: CarolC

I think this is an interesting story. My sister was the one who introduced me to the Mudcat. She knows MMario through involvement with Rennaissance Faires. When she was looking in the forum to show me how to use it she said, "Oh, MMario is in here".

My first post, under her guidance, was an inquiry posted to a circus music thread. I posted it on July 21, 2000, under my old e-mail address.

Guess what MMario? You were the one who first answered my query!

Full circle.

Carol


22 Oct 00 - 12:06 AM (#324301)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Thyme2dream

I sort of had an identity crisis between my first post and now.. I started at the beginning of this year as Sabra, and then my PC went on the fritz and tossed my cookie and when I finally got back online, I forgot my password! I decided to come back as Thyme2dream, a handle I use online a lot and something I wish I had more of. I've been far too serious since i came back tho, and think I'd be better off playing on some of these fun and whimsical threads...maybe I should look harder for my old password...


22 Oct 00 - 12:25 AM (#324306)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: rangeroger

My first post was as a response to Praise's fishing for newbies and she hooked me.I had been lurking for a while after finding the DT while looking for lyrics.I became a member after reading the " Duct Tape", "Cat Farts",and " My Bodhran is too thight" threads.

My first request was to start the thread " Are Bullhead and Mudcat Synonymous?" It was a good discussion on the different species of catfish.

The best answer was Praise's " only in the Rant threads"

That was from memory. Now to check my cookie history and see how much I just made up.

rr


22 Oct 00 - 12:57 AM (#324315)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: rangeroger

OK, my first post was to Mudcat Jargon and "inside" Jokes.

rr


22 Oct 00 - 01:05 AM (#324319)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Susan from California

I absolutely remember! Iwas trying to find out the words to the Mama's & Papa's song "California Dreaming" because there seemed to be a discrepancy--was it "Well I got down on my knees, and I pretend to pray" (which is how I remembered it) and "Well I got down on my knees and I began to pray" which seemed to be the prevailing thought among the people I asked. I felt as if I was berated for being lazy, (even though I had done searches and had gone to a music store looking for sheet music before I posted on the 'cat) and dumb for not knowing what was or wasn't folk :-) I hung around anyway, although my name changed at some point from Susan OF California to Susan FROM California when I had cookie trouble.


22 Oct 00 - 01:14 AM (#324322)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: tradsteve

I believe I was looking for the lyrics for woody guthrie's "I've got to know".


22 Oct 00 - 05:50 AM (#324373)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Lepus Rex

Matt, yup, that's the song. I have a (guilty) love for that song, too, and have an mp3 of it somewhere... but I won't buy the damned cd, heh.

Hah, I remember your first night here, Little Hawk. I got called a 'troll,' too... Ah, the good old days... >:)

---Lepus Rex


22 Oct 00 - 07:11 AM (#324389)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Catrin

I was looking for the lyrics to a boys of the Lough Song (for a friend)in June. I had spent ages surfing the net with no success. I posted one request to the discussion forum and had an answer within 24 hours!

I thought these are some good people, so I stayed.

Cheers,

Catrin

(post no. 535)


22 Oct 00 - 08:30 AM (#324411)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Wavestar

My first post, as a guest, was on the 12th of February last year, asking for English lyrics to a Gaelic emigrant song titled 'Sfhada Leam An Oidche Ghemhraidh. I received information almost instantly, from George Seto, but unfortunately I guess he never got around to translating all six verses, as he intended to. Or maybe he just didn't post them (I checked what I think is his website as well.) I posted about five days later as a member, requesting lyrics for "You're not Irish!" and I believe I got an answer.

-J


22 Oct 00 - 11:59 AM (#324509)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: GUEST,marty D

I've posted as a guest on a number of topics for more than a year, but mostly I just enjoyed reading everyone's opinions. I sure remember my first really personal entry though. I'd decided that after 25 years of playing guitar it was time to start improving or take up the tuba. I was amazed at how supportive several mudcatters were. Not just a couple of lines, but great lengthy paragraphs about how to be a better player. Everytime someone said "just be yourself", or "you'll never play like your heroes", someone else said "go for it". My work keeps me away from mudcat much of the time, but I've corresponded with a couple of the members on a regular basis, and guess what? My playing's much better now than it was even two months ago. I even have a new guitar and know why Doc Watson holds Merle Travis in such high esteem. Posting my question was a good move.

marty D


22 Oct 00 - 12:31 PM (#324533)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Ebbie

Like lots of others,I'd been lurking for some time then on the thread Pac Coast, Alaska, Hawaii, Please Check In, I weighed in from Alaska, 626 posts ago. How do you spell garulous?

Ebbie


22 Oct 00 - 01:03 PM (#324557)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Mrs.Duck

Not so very long ago I know but I doubt if I'll ever forget .Do slugs swing?


22 Oct 00 - 01:41 PM (#324592)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Metchosin

Vividly, I entered on a thread about Cotton Eyed Joe in the middle of a hornets nest with Gargoyle. Gargoyle was the first to greet me and then Rick Fielding and I was mightily confused. I wanted information regarding two non-PC songs that my grandfather used to do, but was paranoid because of the acrimony and didn't want to get mixed up in it. I remember wishing at the time, why couldn't I have just asked for info on something innocuous like Go and Tell Aunt Brodie or something like that?

I remember that too Mrs. Duck, what a hoot!


22 Oct 00 - 02:04 PM (#324608)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: catspaw49

Yeah Mets....I remember that VERY well. I was really sarcastic and thought you were a garg clone!!! If I've never said sorry.......I'm sorry and I am really happy you weathered that barrage and stayed on to be one of my favorite folks.

Spaw


22 Oct 00 - 02:45 PM (#324637)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Mrrzy

Ok, I can look up all my postings (616 after joining, 617 including this one), but only after I joined, right? My posts while still dithering about joining don't show up, nor do all the postings from work before I dared accept a cookie - right? Whereas if I do a Forum search for Mrr I should find everything, since I never posted as anything else? (Barring the occasional, I think twice, clicking Submit before noticing the cookie'd been eaten.) Am I understanding this aright? And isn't this fun?


22 Oct 00 - 03:30 PM (#324663)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Ebbie

Thread Creep! Little Hawk, I'm curious- why does Lepus Rex translate as Jack Rabbit? I've thought of it as King Rabbit.

Ebbie


22 Oct 00 - 03:46 PM (#324677)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Lepus Rex

Yup, Ebbie, King Rabbit. King Hare, really, but 'King Rabbit' sounds better when pronounced. Of course, a 'jack rabbit' is a hare, isn't it? So maybe he only forgot the 'king?' ;)

---Lepus Rex


22 Oct 00 - 04:49 PM (#324721)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: WyoWoman

I found the mudcat from an Internet search for music sites because I was trying to find out where some trad music gatherings were in Scotland and was planning on going on a cycling/music trip there summer before last. The trip to Scotland hasn't transpired yet -- though I have high hopes for the summer of 2001 -- but the Mudcat has been a long, strange trip anyway. 1,902 posts ago ...

I started as K.C., but there was another one for a while, so I started using WyoWoman because, well, I'm, like, a woman and I was living in Wyoming. And now that I no longer live in Wyoming, I don't want to have to go through yet another identity crisis. I've had enough of those in 3D world to last a lifetime. So regardless of where I end up living, I'll probably stay WyoWoman as long as I'm living in Mudcat. Which, I reckon, will be a very, very long time.

I went away for quite a while, due to a broken heart in my real life and a broken heart at some of the mean crap I was encountering every time I logged on here. It just got to be too much for my aching spirit to bear, and too much time and energy to deal with it.

So now I'm back, and back to having to ration my time here so that I don't let it devour the time I need to actually live my life. But when people start being mean with each other, just as in real life, I back out the door and go look for a room where people seem to be having more fun. Life is too short to put up with -- or give out -- nastiness.

ww


22 Oct 00 - 04:54 PM (#324731)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Metchosin

Well you in particular Spaw, made me pretty darn nervous, ya still do, but apologies accepted. *BG*


22 Oct 00 - 05:03 PM (#324742)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Rick Fielding

Hey Met, You've been a grand contributor!

Rick

P.S. Think my first thread was "banned songs", cause a friend of mine told me that the BBC effectively "banned" one of his songs because of it's content (political) and I wanted to know about others. There were lots.

Rick, again.


22 Oct 00 - 05:14 PM (#324751)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: bflat

Yes, I do. But I'm tired of living in the past.

bflat


22 Oct 00 - 05:31 PM (#324758)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Jon Freeman

My first post was in a thread where Mary/SingsIrish was asking about tenor banjos.

I can't remember the first question I but I haven't started many threads other than the Hearme and ICQ threads.

Jon


22 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM (#324767)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Ebbie

Yes, Lepus Rex, I'm sure you're right and that Little Hawk only forgot. *BG*

Ebbie


22 Oct 00 - 06:42 PM (#324835)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Sorcha

I think I got sent here by Jeeves (about.com) looking for lyrics which I found in the DT. I found the Forum fascinating, and lurked around for about 1 day reading old threads, and promptly joined with a "Hi, I'm New" post. I was promptly welcomed by kat, spaw and others, but by virtue of "doing my homework" I was seen (and maybe still am?) by several as kat kat/laughing's alternate persona. Which we both think is very funny!

Not sure of the total posts, tho I have been accused of being a "compulsive poster"......hee hee. I think my first actual request was about Why Barbara Allen Refused? and it got a lot of response.

Still looking for sheet music/gif/abc/MIDI for Green Valley Waltz and Rose of Old Pawnee............


22 Oct 00 - 06:55 PM (#324840)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Liz the Squeak

So what were our first threads? I suspect my first ever thread was the infamous Cat Fart threads, about my little white darling who is in that cat litter tray in the sky now, but if we want to continue the theme, the other one has been snoring quite loudly for nearly an hour now!

LTS


22 Oct 00 - 07:02 PM (#324842)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Sorcha

Liz.............(!!)


22 Oct 00 - 08:07 PM (#324896)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: campfire

My first post was some lyrics to "Rubber Dolly". I had stumbled upon the site while looking for - what else - lyrics to something else. I saw the question posted and knew the answer. Had to keep checking back to see what else was here. Its been about 3 1/2 years now.

campfire


22 Oct 00 - 09:32 PM (#324983)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Bill in Alabama

I first posted here in '96, after lurking for awhile. At first I posted as a guest, using my email address, and then registered under my present moniker in '97. I don't post much anymore, but I check in fairly regularly.


22 Oct 00 - 09:43 PM (#324991)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Sorcha

Well, this is post 2,665 since Jan 14, 2000. And I was wrong--my first post included a request for lyrics for "Home With the Girls in the Morning" which was never answered.


22 Oct 00 - 10:17 PM (#325008)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: Metchosin

Thanks Rick and Spaw. As far as being a grand contributor I sincerely have my doubts, I'm way to slow for gay banter, most of it goes over my head and I'm pretty slow on the uptake on a lot of stuff. I used to worry that my brain was wired differently than most.

I still have a hard time getting into the swing of what Liz the Squeak says, unless I talk to myself in an English accent, but I do love her sense of humor.

In fact I'm so glad I stuck it out, I really like this place, despite people's penchant for cats.


23 Oct 00 - 12:43 AM (#325098)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: GutBucketeer

While I had been lurking for some time. I think the first thread I started was in March 1998. I asked about "Help My singing Voice is Dying" to which Alice promptly replied. I was hooked.

Other early requests included sources for Chewing Chawing Gum and Katy Cruel.

I may have posted earlier but I can't remember starting a thread before this time. I know It was a long time before I registered.

JAB.. Aka Jim in Silver Spring.. Aka Jim Bunch


23 Oct 00 - 08:55 AM (#325215)
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From: Mooh

I first posted to Re: Straw Poll on February 28 of this year. After lurking for awhile, and using the database a bit, I took the bait. I think I made some wisecrack about Danny Boy. Someday somebody will do their doctorate thesis on this place, probably for psychiatry. The range of emotion here is incredible and I'm constantly amazed when an otherwise unsuspecting topic becomes sensationalized.

Not sure of the first thread I started, maybe one about Tonio K, which got no reply.

I didn't realize how much I had posted (over 500)until I got to this thread and looked back. That struck me as alot since I don't read 3/4 of the threads and post to few.

Thanks for the chat! Mooh.


23 Oct 00 - 09:12 AM (#325220)
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From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler

I first posted (I've mentioned this elsewhere recently)Feb '98 asking for words to "Listen to the Ocean". It turned out I had them any way, but I started looking at other threads and the rest, as they say, is history!
RtS


23 Oct 00 - 09:24 AM (#325226)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: L R Mole

Without looking, I think my first was about a knife-edge slide player I recalled from a "Bonanza" of my youth, before I had my own guitar. Hoyt Axton, someone said. What a fine planet this is to land on.


23 Oct 00 - 09:50 AM (#325239)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: GUEST,Patrish

I lurked for about a year, only pausing to ask for lyrics. In Sept 1999 I succumbed

My first posting was on the sad and rather uncomfortable subject of badgers piles just here


23 Oct 00 - 09:53 AM (#325242)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: GUEST,Patrish

Yes I will go back to the idiot at work HTML parctice thread
here

Patrish, I fixed the first link. You did fine except that you forgot to put in a < at the beginning.
- el joeclone -


23 Oct 00 - 10:31 AM (#325269)
Subject: RE: BS: Your First Posting Here - Do You Recall?
From: katlaughing

Late December 1998, asked for lyrics for my dad, which is how I found the Mudcat. I went back to actually read it, but couldn't get it to go back farther than Jan 13, 1999, which I know was not my first. When I started out I was just "katlaughing"; I added the "kat/" after you all started shortening it. Anyway, maybe that is why it wouldn't come up. And, no, it didn't time out on me because I've posted so much. :-)

However, when I tried to refresh the threads for two years, it kept timing out. I figured I could find the thread that way. Oh well....it's been a blast.

kat


23 Oct 00 - 05:53 PM (#325655)
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From: Bat Goddess

I got sucked in, I mean "seduced" -- oh, whatever, by Jeri who dragged me into a thread on gravestone iconography. I think I posted as Linn the Thanatolithologist -- it was before "Guest".

Dunno why I chose Bat Goddess over Thanatolithologist as a nom de Mudcat, but I did.

Glad it all happened, though, and I discovered the joy of mudcatting!

Bat Goddess