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04 Nov 00 - 11:52 PM (#334912) Subject: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JedMarum OK - we've had lots of political discussion (maybe too much) but I wonder who is ready to go out on a limb here ... Who do you think will win the election on Tuesday? Please don't put down who you want to win. I am just curious who will be right. For me, it just it's just too close to call. Anyone got predictions?
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04 Nov 00 - 11:55 PM (#334914) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Troll Me too. Too close to call. Check with me on Wednesday. Afternoon please. I like to sleep in. troll |
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05 Nov 00 - 12:09 AM (#334919) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JedMarum chuckle@troll Look likes I forgot to close my HTML command! Sorry for the extra italics, folks. |
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05 Nov 00 - 12:10 AM (#334920) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lucius Hopefully the American people. |
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05 Nov 00 - 12:16 AM (#334925) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: catspaw49 I'll be around Tuesday night for a short while, but I'll miss the festivities/mourning on Wednesday since I'm gonna' be kinda' indisposed. I'll check in whenever I can that nite or Thursday maybe. Who will win? Too close to call. Spaw |
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05 Nov 00 - 12:26 AM (#334934) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lonesome EJ Gore,in a squeaker. |
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05 Nov 00 - 12:45 AM (#334941) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JedMarum Ah, LEJ the first brave to go out on a limb! |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:20 AM (#334952) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: katlaughing May be a tie? I hope you are right, LeeJ! I heard some predictions on the radio that it would be Bush for the popular vote and Gore by electoral college vote. |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:55 AM (#334958) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: DougR It may be very close as most people are predicting, but I think Bush will win. DougR (surprise!) |
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05 Nov 00 - 02:44 AM (#334967) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Murray MacLeod Am I the only person here who has wagered the outcome? I still think my money is safe and that Gore will be the next incumbent. I mean, seriously, I know y'all elected Reagan, but nobody makes the same mistake twice, do they? Murray |
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05 Nov 00 - 03:58 AM (#334971) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Ebbie I suspect it will be Bush, and not as close as has been forecast. I hope I am wrong. Ebbie |
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05 Nov 00 - 07:45 AM (#335021) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Dharmabum Sure wish they had "None of the above" on the ballot. Gore by a c**t hair. DB. |
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05 Nov 00 - 08:19 AM (#335027) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Midchuck Someone not qualified for the job. Peter. |
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05 Nov 00 - 09:21 AM (#335037) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Alice Too close to call. I already voted by absentee ballot on Friday. We had dire predictions of bad weather, below zero temps, and I didn't want to deal with it on Tuesday, so I went to the courthouse Friday and quickly got the job done. The weather may still play a part in the turn out, since winter storms seem to be on the way. |
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05 Nov 00 - 09:30 AM (#335040) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: GUEST,The Invisible Blazoona The winner will be the the rich white guy from the south who supports NAFTA, the "war" on drugs and the death penalty, and whose father was a Washington insider for decades. In other words, it ain't gonna be Nader. |
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05 Nov 00 - 09:58 AM (#335052) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Gern The winner will be a child of privilege, spoiled by family wealth and accustomed to being catered to. The winner will be white, male and mainstream in professed religious outlook. He will represent the entrenched interests of big business, avoid the moral issues of our military and economic hegemony, and ignore the poor once the votes are counted. He will lack sincere convictions, being motivated instead by eagerness for power. The winning strategy will be to measure every comment cautiously, based on the marketing research of campaign staff, and restrict all debate so as to exclude those outside the elite and any creative approaches to our problems. Voters will be bored stiff with nitpicking banalities on the two or three issues he agrees to discuss, and he will demonstrate only a marginally different stance than his opponent on these. The winner will, in short, change very little that needs changing in this world. People will still die on battlefields, oil will be pumped and dumped like there's no tomorrow, America will continue to export DDT and tobacco to countries that cannot feed their people and then demand their multi-billion dollar debt payments. I feel sadly confident in this prediction. |
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05 Nov 00 - 10:01 AM (#335056) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: bob schwarer Our local newspaper, part of the New York Times family, has endorsed Mr. Bush. What do they know that they are withholding from the unwashed masses? Generally the are like Siamese twins with any democrat. Bob S. |
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05 Nov 00 - 10:05 AM (#335061) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: McGrath of Harlow "I know y'all elected Reagan, but nobody makes the same mistake twice, do they? " Oh yes they do. They elected Reagan a second time as well. (And Maggie Thatcher got back three times!)
Anyway, it's bound to be some American...
But I'd just love to see the winner walk up to the mike when the results have been declared, and he says "Fooled ya, didn't I?"
Whatever happens, remember the 20 year rule means that one that gets elected this time is due to die in office (well Regan technically didn't...)
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05 Nov 00 - 10:09 AM (#335065) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Naemanson Kat - Actually it will be everyone in a tie but the winner will be the one who is smiling. Don'cha get tired of that uniform they all wear? Jacket, Tie, etc. Gern - you hit the nail right on the head! |
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05 Nov 00 - 11:08 AM (#335091) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Susan from California I'm afraid that W will. |
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05 Nov 00 - 11:12 AM (#335092) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Alice I feel like watching the campaign is like watching the tv series called "Survivor". "strategy game" |
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05 Nov 00 - 11:21 AM (#335101) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JedMarum Well, still not many real predictions, LEJ, Doug, Ebbie and DB (DB 'a c**t hair' - what the hell is that, or do I even want to know). So, I looked in at the top three polls this morning:
** Zogby (MSNBC/Reuters is a popular opinion poll) says Bush 46 and Gore 44 |
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05 Nov 00 - 11:53 AM (#335119) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JedMarum For most recent accuracy, the Portrait of America (Rasmussen Research) poll has been the most accurate predicter of results. They apparently hit the last election, and the primaries right on target ... for what that's worth. |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:08 PM (#335157) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Alice Jed, the poll I heard this morning said they are basically even. I still say it is too close for me to even make a guess. |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:22 PM (#335164) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: JamesJim An American will win this election. A patriot. But mostly, the American people will win. We live in a great country folks! No matter who wins, the "fore"thought of our forefathers will protect us all, and, makes this a great land in which to live. I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN(even if we are called "ugly" by some). Jim |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM (#335182) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: DougR Jed: I almost (but not really) wish Gore would win so those of us who support Bush wouldn't have to put up with the weeping and wailing and the gnashing of teeth on Wednesday morning. DougR |
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05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM (#335183) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: M. Ted (inactive) Before I predict, let me say a few things-First, it didn't take a rocket scientist to pick the last election--and, for all of you who comment on the fact that we have two rich boys to chose from, don't forget that last time, we had two poor boys to choose from-- Next, GW's only claim to fame is that he is the son of a president that we voted out of office, he has no major issues, and the economy is great--Gore has made no major mistakes, and there is no Willie Horton ad (GW, incidentally, was the driving force behind that) Pretend that you never heard word one about any polls, who would you pick? And remember that the only polls that count are the ones where people vote-- All that said, I pick Gore--and by a surprising margin--(Bush may fall as low as 37%, which is the magic number that Bush Sr. hit(if I remember correctly) and Bob Dole (the only presidential candidate to publically acknowledge what most of us suspected--that Republicans can't get it up), and corresponds to the approximate percentage of registered Republicans-- California will go Gore--forget that Bush spent 5 million on TV ads, remember Michael Huffington! Florida will go Gore, as will Michigan and PA-- Ralph Nader will fall way short of his 5%,(I say about 2%), but the Green Party will elect a number of local candidates, most noteably in DC, which will make DC statehood a hot issue-- After this, the crystal is dark again--
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05 Nov 00 - 02:07 PM (#335188) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lepus Rex RALPH NADER!!! Just kidding. Something like 2 years ago, I predicted that Bush would win, so I'll stick by that. ---Lepus Rex |
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05 Nov 00 - 02:07 PM (#335190) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Greg F. What I find interesting are the Zogby & other polls that have shown for months and still show that over two-thirds of the American electorate categorically opposes the planks- individually or collectively- in the Republican platform. Yet the race is still 50/50? I fear we will be waking Wednesday to a Pres. Dubya as long as the voters can be this mindless & see no connection between Dubya & his party's agenda. Hope I'm wrong, tho- Greg |
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05 Nov 00 - 02:30 PM (#335204) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: thosp corporate interests |
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06 Nov 00 - 12:30 PM (#335274) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Whistle Stop For the past year I've been predicting that Bush will take it. I stand by that prediction, even though I'll be voting for Gore. |
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06 Nov 00 - 12:37 PM (#335281) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: mousethief I predict Bush will win. I predict in 4 years there will not be anybody willing to admit they voted for him.
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06 Nov 00 - 12:50 PM (#335291) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Little Hawk A front man for the Machine will win. His name will be either Bush or Gore. The public will lose for 4 more years. And a bemused world will watch it all unfold. Sorry, but that's the gist of it... |
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06 Nov 00 - 01:06 PM (#335303) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: annamill I haven't read all the threads, and I don't know who will win. I only know who will lose! Us! Love, annamill |
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06 Nov 00 - 01:18 PM (#335315) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: M. Ted (inactive) Alex, It's the damnest thing, isn't it? So many of our presidents appear to have been elected without having one single person vote for them! |
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06 Nov 00 - 02:21 PM (#335386) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: DougR And I predict (if my prediction is correct about the election) that you, Mousethief/Alex, will find yourself, again, among the minority four years from now. DougR |
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06 Nov 00 - 03:25 PM (#335418) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: InOBU McGrath: The 20 year rule held. Regan was brain dead in office. Cheers, Larry. PS, the rich fat cats will win. Everyone else will loose, but we will loose less if Gore wins. |
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06 Nov 00 - 03:34 PM (#335426) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: mmm Who will win? the jack-ass in the nearest field ! oops i guess that would be Bush and Gore lol mmm |
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06 Nov 00 - 05:35 PM (#335495) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: flattop If this thread is an indication of how American voters feel, whoever wins may perform above most peoples' expectations. I hope so. I hope that Americans get a better president than they expect. Being born rich, having a concern about the companies that fuel the economy, having previous experience in government, these things don't make candidates worse humans than you or I. Well I can't speak for you but… We have several decent leaders in the upcoming Canadian federal election. Even the right wing bastard seems like a reasonable enough fellow. Our previous leader may have told a few lies but he's a hoot, loud and folksy, like Chuck and Sandytoes, although I don't think Chuck and Sandytoes tell lies. Our left wing party is lead by a woman born into a rich family. She seems to be genuinely interested in people. Her biggest problem is that she is too nice so voters don't take her seriously. A fourth party is lead by a right wing nice guy. His party was once one of the top two parties in Canada but now he has it on its death bed. He's been around Canadian politics for a long time and, in my mind, he has consistently been a loser. He probably represents Canadians better than the other leaders, since we are a country of losers, but most of us don't want to admit that in a voting booth. We'd rather pretend that we a bright and sophisticated and suave and superior to most of the folks who run for office. John Travolta told Rob Reiner something like, 'When we were good we were never as good as they though we were and when we were bad we were never as bad as they thought we were.' We might keep that in mind when we cut up those people with enough public spirit to represent the wild and outrageous views of their constituents. |
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06 Nov 00 - 06:25 PM (#335520) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: GUEST,BelmontBlvd A vote for Nader is a vote for bush, ha ha! Sooooo... Vote for Nader!!!!!!!!! |
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06 Nov 00 - 07:13 PM (#335548) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: GUEST,Big Mick How it will go??...................Oh well, what the hell. I have been dead in this since last December so here is my prediction. It is so razor thin, but I will tell you what I think. By my count Gore has 168 electoral votes sown up, Bush has 205. Among the tossup states I believe my guy will win Arkansas (squeeker), Florida (what a surprise!!), Iowa, Michigan (how could he lose with the brainpower he has here....LOL), Minnesota, Missouri (Carnahan factor), New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, and Wisconsin. This will put him at 302 electoral votes. There are a couple of them there that others don't agree with me on, but let's see what happens. And remember folks, The Only Good Republican is an Irish Republican LOL Die is cast, work is done, what will be will be. I am tired and glad it is over. See ya tomorrow. Mick |
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06 Nov 00 - 07:21 PM (#335554) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: catspaw49 Yeah......I think we need a new thread for tomorrow for the Mudcat analysts......"US ELECTIONS-Mudcat Talking Heads Analysis" Spaw |
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06 Nov 00 - 07:42 PM (#335570) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Snuffy What's the point in predictions? If you're wrong - you look a fool If you're right - so what? Take the long-term view - I'll know on Wednesday, and I'll know for the rest of my life. I don't have to like it, but I'll know. |
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06 Nov 00 - 07:48 PM (#335576) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: DougR Well, you Gore supporters should feel a bit better now. The polls seem to be giving Gore the edge now. Mick, I'm with you (not politically of course). I'll just be glad when the election is history, regardless of who wins. DougR |
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06 Nov 00 - 07:53 PM (#335584) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lepus Rex That 'Irish Republican' saying rules, Mick. Tehy sell shirts with that on it? :) ---Lepus Rex |
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06 Nov 00 - 10:41 PM (#335706) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Murray MacLeod Does anyone know the statistics regarding how many vice-presidents running for the big one have been defeated ? (I don't know, I want somebody to tell me) Murray |
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06 Nov 00 - 11:03 PM (#335719) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Big Mick In fact they do sell shirts with that saying on them................hahahahahah..............I wear one whenever I am playing for a particularly conservative and US Republican audience. Mick |
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06 Nov 00 - 11:05 PM (#335721) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lepus Rex Oh, cool, I want one! You don't know where one could be bought, do you, Mick? ---Lepus Rex |
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06 Nov 00 - 11:11 PM (#335725) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: GUEST,Stackley Nice guess there, Emperor Lagamorph, but WRONG. |
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06 Nov 00 - 11:15 PM (#335730) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Lepus Rex Oh, drat, you deny it! You wouldn't lie to me, would you? Nah. But what's with following me around, Stalk-ley? You take care now. :) ---Lepus Rex |
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06 Nov 00 - 11:26 PM (#335733) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Big Mick PM me your email and I will find out where and we can work it out. Mick |
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07 Nov 00 - 01:14 AM (#335770) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: DougR Geeze, Mick! You perform for Republicans? You take money from the enemy? As Ebbie said to me in this or another thread, "I'm disappointed with you!" :>) DougR |
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07 Nov 00 - 01:18 AM (#335775) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Troll Sorry, Doug, but I played a Democrat fund raiser. I'm the music whore;you pay, I play. troll |
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07 Nov 00 - 07:48 AM (#335858) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Dave the Gnome Huh? What? Is something happening in the USA then? How are us English supposed to know what happens over there when there is never a mention of American politics on any of the news channels.... ;-) Dave the uninformed Why do they call you that then? I dunno! |
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07 Nov 00 - 10:14 AM (#335944) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Jim the Bart We may disagree about who's approach to governing is most effective but we don't have to be enemies. And I thought that was what all these discussions were supposed to be about. Not unsubstantiated allegations. Not personal attacks (particularly on each other). Not about name calling and empty rhetoric. But there I go, preaching just like my candidate (but please don't call me Al). I made my prediction after the last debate; I said it would be Gore unless there was some kind of surprise. I know the OUI was considered surprising to some, but I don't think it moved anyone out of one column and into another. I still believe that a majority or the undecideds will decide not to change things and pick Gore. There are two things that I find interesting about this election. If you compare candidates from this election and the last, it's pretty clear that Bob Dole was more qualified than George W. and Bill Clinton has more negative baggage than Al G. So, if the Dem candidate is better this election than last and if the Repub is worse this time than last, and the Dems won big last time, why. . .??? I don't understand how this election could be in doubt. #2 (pun intended)For the past couple elections, it's been the democrats who have had to hold their nose and vote for their man. This year it's the Republicans. We need to find a better way to pick our leaders. |
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07 Nov 00 - 10:32 AM (#335952) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Troll How about we put all the candidates in the woods -someplace dark and swampy- with a gun and whoever survives, wins. It would be cheap (ammo is not expensive) and it would cut down on the number of politicians, which is always a good thing. troll....only half joking |
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07 Nov 00 - 11:18 AM (#335982) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: GUEST,truckerdave In this race between tweedledee and tweedledum I'll take Bush by 7 points. |
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07 Nov 00 - 11:24 AM (#335985) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Bill D does this 'truckerdave' ever drive into Glen Echo park? |
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07 Nov 00 - 12:15 PM (#336036) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: CarolC Well, I just did my civic duty, and it really felt good. I haven't had such a good time since the first and second times I voted for Bill Clinton. Carol |
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07 Nov 00 - 12:26 PM (#336045) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Ebbie AND THEN HE SAID.......... > > "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of > failure." George W. Bush, Jr. > > "Republicans understand the importance of bondage > between a mother and child." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. > > "Welcome to Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. > > "Mars is essentially in the same orbit...Mars is > somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is > very > important. We have seen pictures where there are > canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, > that > means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can > breathe." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 8/11/94 > > "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our > nation's history. I mean in this century's history. > But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in > this century." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95 > > "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward > more freedom and democracy - but that could > change." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/22/98 > > "One word sums up probably the responsibility of > any > Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 12/6/93 > > "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 11/30/96 > > "I have made good judgments in the past. I have > made > good judgments in the future." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. > > "The future will be better tomorrow." > ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. Not too fast on his feet, is he. |
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07 Nov 00 - 12:39 PM (#336061) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: harpmolly I say we put them all on Pulau Tiga for a month. WITH Richard *snicker* And maybe Susan, just for good measure. Whichever one of them manages to withstand that sort of torture deserves to be president. ;) Mollificent (aka post-Survivor withdrawal poster child) |
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07 Nov 00 - 12:52 PM (#336069) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Jeri J. Danforth Quayle said: "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change." (May 2, 89.) "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." (Dec 6 89) Now this could be a case of simple misattribution or - and this is scary - is Bush stealing lines from Dan Quayle?!?! I have done my civic duty and fought through the ravening horde of about 15 people to vote. (Well, I think we only have about 3,000 residents.) |
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07 Nov 00 - 07:49 PM (#336294) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Ebbie Jeri- very interesting. As you can see by the botched post I cut and pasted something I was sent. Sounds like someone is getting double mileage out of idiocies! If those two ran for office together, would the slogan be "Under every Bush is a Quayle"? Or 'Every Quayle needs a Bush"? Ebbie |
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08 Nov 00 - 08:41 AM (#336639) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: Snuffy My newspaper this morning has the following quotes: If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." And it says they were made by Gore!! Perhaps we'll hear later that they were said by Hilary Clinton, or Mel Carnahan or the Pope or Bob Dylan |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:11 AM (#336700) Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday? From: paddymac Well, gang, it appears that the correct answer to the question is: "NOBODY WILL WIN IT ON TUESDAY". It is likely to be a few days before Florida's count is officially determined. |