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08 Nov 00 - 04:09 PM (#336818) Subject: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Jacko and I are trying a hearme site on Paltalk the room is Mudcat Folk/Blues Hearme try and jopin us if you have downloaded Paltalk... |
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08 Nov 00 - 04:25 PM (#336825) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) This site works well but when we set up a hearme session we should make the room private, because there were some unpleasant visitors when Jacko and I tried it.. Jon if you are around, I think this Paltalk will work but it needs someone who is familiar with setting up a room to make the permanent hearme link on it. Cheers. Dave (tam) |
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08 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM (#336839) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman Dave, if we are to use PalTalk, there are various options that could be considered. The first choice is whether to make a group permanent or temporary. A temporary group needs to be set up each time it is created but that doesn't take too long. A group can be open to all, private or password protected. The drawback with creating a private room is that it requires emails being sent to allow others in. If we are to use this type of room, and want to restrict access, I feel that password protection would be a better solution. A permanent group allows the settings to be given once but requires someone with admin rights to open the room (a group can have an unlimited number of admins). It seems to have the advantage of allowing more control over obnoxious users, as any admin can boot them. It offers the choice of an open or a locked room, a locked room requiring a code to enter. On top of this there is the question of ratings for a room. The choices are G - general audience including children, R - adult content but no sexually explicit conversation and A - anything goes!. I am still not sure that we need to make a move yet and would be reluctant to do so unless we have to. My own inclination would be to set up a permanent open room (I think we can be welcoming to others provided we have admin control) with a rating of R (The reason I suggest R is that G rated rooms are monitored and are subject to text filters and I object to that on principle) and to hand out the admin key to anyone who may require it. Before we do anything other than test the operation (sound quality and suitability for us), I feel that more discussion is needed especially if a permanent room was to be used in the future. Jon |
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08 Nov 00 - 05:16 PM (#336841) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: kendall I just downloaded it..piece of cake. I'm Ken 95 |
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08 Nov 00 - 05:31 PM (#336853) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman I've just read Judy's post in the other Hearme Now thread, and it's not looking to good for us, at least not until the end of the year and there is no guarantee that the new product will be free or anymore reliable. I think that the time has come to move. I am quite happy creating a room in my name and allowing others admin rights to open it and moderate it if necessary. Shall I go ahead and if so, should it be locked or open and what rating should I give it? The only fear I have with using the R rating to avoid the monitoring/ filtering and keeping the room unlocked is that it may be difficult to use persistanlty using foul language as a reason to boot someone. Jon
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08 Nov 00 - 06:03 PM (#336861) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck Tries downloading paltalk and had to uninstall as nothing else would work after that!!!! |
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08 Nov 00 - 06:06 PM (#336865) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Working fine for Jacko and me Mrs Duck please try again. Jon i suggest you go ahead and create the room. The Hearme site that Aine has is just too unstable and is not conducive to good hearme sessions. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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08 Nov 00 - 06:36 PM (#336881) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Liz the Squeak Mrs Duck, you are not alone!! It booted me off before I could even load it, and told me to restart my computer! LTS |
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08 Nov 00 - 07:26 PM (#336905) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck Finally got paltalk working but couldn't find the mudcat room. I presume you'd all given up by then. |
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08 Nov 00 - 07:29 PM (#336910) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck By the way they wouldn't let me be Mrs,Duck so I had to become duckwoman!!!!I hpoe this doesn't mean I have to start wearing my Knickers outside my tights!!! |
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08 Nov 00 - 07:46 PM (#336917) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman The room is open now and is proving to be quite good. Groups/ Music/ Mudcat Song Circle. Jon |
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08 Nov 00 - 07:57 PM (#336921) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Bill D a first for me...could NOT get the thing installed!...It asked me to register as a new user, then told me I couldn't be found among registered users!(not sure whether it found other 'Bill Ds' or what it's problem was)...it seemed to be unable to tell that it was creating multiple copies of itself when I retried... I uninstalled EVERYTHING.(I think)...and when I tried again, it IMMEDIATELY put my name in the sign-in box before asking me to register...then told me it was 'not initialized'..... not sure what to do...... |
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08 Nov 00 - 08:21 PM (#336931) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman I had "not initialised" after something went wrong, try re-booting Bill. Jon |
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08 Nov 00 - 08:49 PM (#336941) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jeri I had the same problem as Bill when I tried to sneak back in under a different name. (I tried registering as someone else.) The REASON I had to try to sneak back in was because cranky old Jon kicked my ass out of the room. It went sorta like Me: "I wonder if admins can kick each other out." Jon: "I don't know. --- THWAAAACK!!!" Me: "@#&*!!!" When I tried to get back in, I was told I was banned for 24 hours. I'm hurt. Sniff, sniff. (Not really) |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:16 PM (#336948) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Bill D ok...*sigh*..will re-boot and see |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:22 PM (#336951) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Working fine please send us your email if you need a link to join. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:36 PM (#336964) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Bill D well,it will NOT work....when I click the sign-on, I get an error message from Norton that says I have a crash in "OleMainThreadWndName" and I am unable to delete everything and re-register under ANY name... at the PalTalk web page where you check registration problems, it says I am NOT registered under the name and email/password I used..(and always use)...so if I am not registered properly, of course it won't let me in...but I can't get it to allow me to register!!...no new names, no old names....no way to uninstall and start all over at the beginning, because when I do what I think is a total un-install, and then re-install, it installs the files and brings up the sign-in box without displaying ANY registration dialogue...just a box with "Bill D" and a place for a password(how does it KNOW I am Bill D if it is a clean re-install??)....and when I use the only password I know, it BOMBS and starts me all over!......*grump* |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:41 PM (#336971) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison you and me both Bill... I can't get anywhere slainte alison |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:46 PM (#336975) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman Bill, I think this is one for PalTalk (assuming that their help is better than Hearme's). For others, PalTalk can be downloaded from here. Jon |
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08 Nov 00 - 09:53 PM (#336982) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Bill D when you email your problem to PalTalk, you get an automated reply with all their online help pages listed...sort of a pre-digested FAQ...not sure how you actually get someone's attention...but thanks, guys |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:01 PM (#336990) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Keep trying guys this site is superior to the old one we have had ten in and no crashes. The sound quality alone is worth the effort. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:12 PM (#336999) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison I keep getting a MMSYSTEM020 the driver did not generate a valid OPEN callback so does Bill... when we try to install.. then a fatal error slainte alison |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:17 PM (#337001) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Matt_R Works great here! |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:21 PM (#337002) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman Alison and Bill, one other thought, on install, etc. Make sure that there are no other programs are open. Jon |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:36 PM (#337019) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Keep trying this is worth the effort. TTFN |
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08 Nov 00 - 10:50 PM (#337023) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison sorry boys... it's b*ll*xed..... tried the whole reboot thing...... keep getting the same error just after I accept the terms and conditions might get Mark to have a go later slainte alison |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:12 PM (#337029) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: jacko@nz BillD, The first time i went into PalTalk i found myself in a beginners room with an online audio and chat helper. He demonstrated remarkable sang froid under a barrage of written and audio questions |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:16 PM (#337033) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: John Hardly sound is great but I can't find anybody.--John |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:25 PM (#337039) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: GutBucketeer Everyone must be gone now. I didn't see the mudcat room, so I went into some of the other music rooms. My sound kept fading in and out like someone was turning the volume on and off very quickly. The setup looks alot like the rooms and lobbies of the full HEARME service. For that service you also have to download software, register with a user name, etc. (See the earliest of the HEARME posts). I don't know if the permanent HEARME lobbies using their full software are any more or less stable than Paltalk. JAB (bumdittybum) on paltalk |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:29 PM (#337041) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison still tells me that installation was successful.... but then the fatal errors start again.. and yes I have deleted and rebooted MANY times........ slainte alison |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:35 PM (#337043) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Bill D Jacko...*grin*....nice idea...IF you can get registered far enough to GET to the helpful beginners room...(I found that with "FireTalk"....but this I can't even get my name registered...and it wont let me start over!!!!! |
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08 Nov 00 - 11:46 PM (#337048) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Margaret V Well, I seem to have successfully installed, but I had the same sound problem as JAB. I was listening to Ivan but every two seconds or so the sound would cut out. Hope to hear some more of you in there soon. Margaret |
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09 Nov 00 - 12:29 AM (#337058) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison OK.. now I've managed to register (alison in oz).....but everytime I get to a room (I got into the newbies room for about 10 secs).. it gives me the error messages again slainte alison |
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09 Nov 00 - 12:44 AM (#337061) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison Has everyone else got mulitple Paltalk icons? I only have one lot of it installed.. yet I have 3 different buttons for accesssing it..... one on my toolbar, one on my desktop, and one in my start menu..... is that right? slainte alison |
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09 Nov 00 - 02:13 AM (#337070) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: jacko@nz Alison |
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09 Nov 00 - 02:28 AM (#337073) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Musicman got in no problems visitied a few groups sang a few songs left |
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09 Nov 00 - 11:56 AM (#337129) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: MMario I'm conservative. when I installed it; I told it I didn't want a desktop icon and that I didn't want it to start automatically - that I would start it manually. working fine. I get an icon in my tray WHEN I start it, but before that it is only in my start;program list |
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09 Nov 00 - 11:59 AM (#337133) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: GUEST,Matt_R I'm there now if anyone wants to drop by to make sure it works. BTW if you do accidentally get the desktop icon, just drap it to the dumper (recycle bin). |
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09 Nov 00 - 12:13 PM (#337149) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jeri I have a firewall on my computer (ZoneAlarm) which I have to manually allow to access the web (it doesn't ask - just won't let me) and shut off to hear anything. Bill, maybe their support actually supports? At support@paltalk.com |
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09 Nov 00 - 12:19 PM (#337151) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: kendall What's wrong with having a desk top icon? |
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09 Nov 00 - 12:21 PM (#337155) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: MMario on occasion it can cause errors (not often - but it can happen) but mainly I just like to get rid of the clutter. |
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09 Nov 00 - 01:47 PM (#337224) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Morticia well I seem to be installed without too many problems.....proof of the pudding and all that though, haven't actually tried it out yet. |
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09 Nov 00 - 02:26 PM (#337254) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Just opened the room for ten minutes if anyone wants to try it. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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09 Nov 00 - 02:41 PM (#337267) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Room works fine, I'm off now. |
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09 Nov 00 - 04:07 PM (#337321) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck I'm a bit confused as ever. Is the room there all the time because it doesn't appear on the list I get under music groups. I can access the other rooms and have spoken to one or two people so I know it works. Perhaps someone would like to test it with me soon |
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09 Nov 00 - 04:57 PM (#337359) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Liz the Squeak It still won't even let me in the door, let alone boot me out at registration..... *sigh*..... What am I doing wrong? What other programs must I not have open? How can I do blue clicky thing if I don't have at least this program open? I'm buggered if I'm going to write all that lot down and type it in manually! LTS |
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09 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM (#337369) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Catrin Its not there all the time. Someone who has Jon Freemans Password has to open it as an admin person. I managed to do it earlier and then sat there by myself for a while feeling silly. I'll try it again and see what happens |
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09 Nov 00 - 05:47 PM (#337396) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck Got cut off Catrin but at least I know it works now. I'll wait to see how we go about making it open to all 'catters without the world and her husband being able to gatecrash. See you next Friday hopefully. |
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09 Nov 00 - 06:04 PM (#337415) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Catrin OK Mrs Duck - not to worry. If we're going to use it regularly, I think we all need the admin code thingy. It felt a bit of a responsibility just then, not being able to just slip away for a few minutes. If I had left, everyone else would have got booted out. Anyway, catchya later, Catrin |
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09 Nov 00 - 07:13 PM (#337464) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: alison I let Mark have a go at this last night (for hours).... he works with computers....... and still got nowhere... It definately doesn't like zone alarm.... but he couldn't even ping the site using DOS.... maybe the site was down when he tried... but at this stage things are not looking good...... slainte alison |
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09 Nov 00 - 11:25 PM (#337607) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque I was just in there - no Mudcat room, and now i know why! I did drop in to a couple of other sites with talk, text & music; sound cutting out quite badly, but one of the occupants advised me to go "Setup" > "Advanced Sound Settings" > and check boxes #1, 3, and 5, then reboot. The format is very reminicient of HearMe - which I havn't been able to get into for quite some time now. Do we have to have "Adult Content" enabled for Mudcat (when it's on)? How do I contact or "call" fellow 'Catters on this thing? I tried calling Kendall with "Ken 95" but no dice! |
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10 Nov 00 - 07:03 AM (#337754) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: bigchuck Jaque, I believe that you can only "call" a person if he/she is logged into Paltalk. You can leave a message that they will get the next time they log on. |
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10 Nov 00 - 05:06 PM (#338233) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mrs.Duck Just be n in with Dick Greenhaus Susan of DT and Jacko/nz things were patchy and then I think Jacko was cut off and he was the admin so the room got closed/ Bit of a nuisance that |
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10 Nov 00 - 07:40 PM (#338342) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Liz the Squeak Humph, I'm not happy with this..... how can you complain of gatecrashers when the only thing crashing round here is my computer..... Anyone have ANY suggestions?? Please???? LTS |
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10 Nov 00 - 08:12 PM (#338364) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mary in Kentucky I was just "in" and didn't "see" anybody I knew. What do I do next? Liz, I can sympathize with you. It was not an easy registration, but I only locked up once. I finally became Mary in Ky_1 (go figure.) |
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10 Nov 00 - 08:21 PM (#338369) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: bigchuck Mary, the room is not there unless someone's in it. It needs to be opened by someone with an admin key (there are several of us) but once it's opened, it stays open as long as anybody's there. |
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10 Nov 00 - 08:28 PM (#338378) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Mary in Kentucky What's the name of the room? I just looked at my email confirmation from Paltalk, and there was no way for me to respond. So I'm still not sure if I'm really registered. |
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10 Nov 00 - 09:42 PM (#338417) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: jacko@nz Mary the room is called....Mudcat Song Circle...and it's in the music group directory I'm going there now |
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10 Nov 00 - 09:52 PM (#338420) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: JazzyJ I can't see the room is noone there.. Looked under Music.
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10 Nov 00 - 10:47 PM (#338437) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: momnopp Well, it worked very smoothly for me - I got in and everything! Very cool, hope it turns out to be a better deal than Hearme. Talk to you all soon! JudyO |
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11 Nov 00 - 06:30 AM (#338531) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman I have just found this in the FAQ. It may help some:
Q. When I complete the final dialogue box, during registration, Paltalk freezes. Jon
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11 Nov 00 - 06:10 PM (#338818) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: campfire Yeah, and I'm one of those who does NOT get the "hello" box; I get a "connection failed". So it seems JollyKim and I will not be able to be PalTalkers. I emailed them asking whether it is location or something about my computer that I can fix. Will post response here if it comes. campfire |
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11 Nov 00 - 06:23 PM (#338823) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: campfire Phhhhttt! All I got for a resonse was the same list of stuff in the FAQ. So much for "support". campfire |
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12 Nov 00 - 09:19 AM (#339129) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Liz the Squeak Well I got in, but now I can't find where to navigate. I do a search for Mudcat song circle and got nothing. Is it only there when someone is in it?? LTS |
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12 Nov 00 - 09:40 AM (#339132) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: nutty Liz--- you click on 'groups' and then 'music' if mudcat is open it will then appear on the list and show how many people are there. I f you want to open the room Jon has posted instructions in the forum |
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12 Nov 00 - 06:10 PM (#339341) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Liz the Squeak Thanks, now all I have to do is try to remember how to put it in favourites and how to get four icons off the desktop!!! Anyone likely to be in there soon so I can try it out?? LTS |
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08 Feb 01 - 02:38 AM (#392926) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Katcina Jon, Thank you so very much for allowing me to read about the beginning of how the Pal Talk experience came to be. I found it very interresting and enlightening not to dis-clude a bit humourous affection from one that has been through the trials and tribulations with Pal Talk. My over aall experience with Ppal Talk has been a very pleasant onee and will continue to be so. One day I must pay a visit to Hearme if only to have the comparison to judge Pal Talk quality by. Thanks again for the great background information!! Katcina |
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08 Feb 01 - 07:58 AM (#393025) Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now From: Jon Freeman Katcina, our suspicions about Hearme proved true and the service was eventually withdrawn in January this year. Another company is offering to provide a free service that allows web masters to voice enable their web site which was mentioned in the threads a few weeks ago. I don't like it and can't host it anyway. I don't know if anyone else has tried. Jon |