12 Nov 00 - 11:13 AM (#339175) Subject: 'if you would see horn fair' From: GUEST,BIG Malc - Super folkie Any help on the lyrics for 'Horn Fair' would be greatly appreciated, subject line is first line of verse. |
13 Nov 00 - 06:38 AM (#339612) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: Quincy refresh |
13 Nov 00 - 10:32 AM (#339696) Subject: Lyr Add: HORN FAIR From: Malcolm Douglas HORN FAIR
This fragment appears in Charles Kightly's The Customs and Ceremonies of Britain (Thames and Hudson, 1986):
If you would see Horn Fair you must walk on your way
Oh fairest of damsels, how can you say No?
Kightly gives no source or tune. He considers the song to refer to Ebernoe Horn Fair (West Sussex), which takes place on St. James' Day, 25th July; it was revived in its present form, as a cricket match and sheep-roast, in 1864. Roy Palmer, however (Bushes and Briars: Folk Songs collected by Ralph Vaughan Williams; Dent 1983/ Llanerch 1999), links it with the better-known Horn Fair of Charlton (Kent, 18th October), which was suppressed in 1874, but has apparantly recently been revived. Vaughan Williams had a set of the song from Frederick Teal of Kingsfold, Surrey, in 1904:
As I was a-walking one morning in spring,
I asked this pretty damsel for to let me ride,
"I can find by your talk you're for one game of play,
"O, O my pretty damsel, how can you say so,
There were the finest of horns as ever you did behold,
Another version, from Janet Blunt's ms., was published in The Folk Music Journal (EFDSS, vol.3 no.2, 1976). She gave no source for it.
As I was a-riding all on to Horn Fair,
I said, "My pretty fair maid will you get up and ride?"
"It's for your old daddy you need not to fear, Malcolm |
13 Nov 00 - 11:06 AM (#339711) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: nutty This is a super song - has anyone a tune? - I would love to sing it |
13 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM (#339983) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: Chris Flint Etchingham Steam band perform a version (Shirley Collins Ashley Hutchings Vic Gammon Terry Potter etc.) recorded it on a cd 'The Etchingham Steam Band' Fledgling Records PO box 547 London CD no FLED 3002 Chris |
13 Nov 00 - 07:08 PM (#340081) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: GUEST,bigJ It's also on one of John Howson's Veteran Tapes sung, I think, by Jeff Wesley. See his website. |
13 Nov 00 - 07:36 PM (#340106) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: Malcolm Douglas On A Sweet Country Life: Sussex family songs by Bob Lewis (Veteran Tapes VT120). Veteran's website (which is rather difficult to search) is here: Veteran releases. BR> I have tunes for the second two versions above, and will send midis to Alan for the Mudcat Midi Pages. They may take a while to appear, so Nutty; if you'd like staff notation in the meantime (or midis, for that matter), send me a personal message with your email address and I'll send you the music. Malcolm |
13 Nov 00 - 07:38 PM (#340107) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: Snuffy John Howsons site is www.oldhatmusic.freeserve.co.uk |
15 Nov 00 - 11:07 PM (#341528) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: GUEST,BIG Malc Many thanks for your help every one especiay Malcolm Douglas who must sp[end hours searching through his books music notation appreciated if pos macolm_janet_roberts@msn.com |
15 Dec 00 - 10:53 PM (#358097) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'if you would see horn fair' From: Alan of Australia G'day, Thanks to Malcolm two tunes for "If You Would See Horn Fair" can be found at the Mudcat MIDI site.
Cheers, |