24 Nov 00 - 11:23 AM (#346078) Subject: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Sean MacRuaraidh Hi, Does anyone have the chords for this fabulous Irish jig. I have checked a few links but can only find the sheet music. I saw a chorded version last week - it may have been in one of the Malley's books. At the moment I have a very simple chord arrangement for it using Am, G and C but want the more complex version, Cheers, Sean
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24 Nov 00 - 04:45 PM (#346199) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,chanteyranger Are you sure it's a jig you're looking for? There's a well-known reel of that name. Sorry, can't help you on chords, though. -chanteyranger |
24 Nov 00 - 04:56 PM (#346202) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Jon Freeman I see Mally does list (the reel) the Gravel Walks in his "100 Essential Irish Session Tunes". His website is http://www.mally.com. Jon |
24 Nov 00 - 05:05 PM (#346206) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Mike Ireland Hi Sean If you go to the following web page you will be able to type in the name and get back the abc file and mide etc. Its JC tune finder page a good link. http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html Mike |
25 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM (#346704) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Mike Cahill there is a saying round here, "Gravel walks, rubble doesn't". it is a really good tune, I think i've got a midi of it that has a base line, I'll look for you |
25 Nov 00 - 05:15 PM (#346708) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Mike Cahill No I've just checked, it's just a midi of the melody line, if you want it post your E-mail, and I'll send it to you as an attachment |
27 Nov 00 - 12:35 PM (#347060) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST Thanks, reel, jig - jig, reel (not important right now) No chords, oh well, Not often that Mudcat lets me down. Thanks for having a go. Cheers, Sean |
27 Nov 00 - 01:12 PM (#347093) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Jeri If it helps, I followed Mike Ireland's suggestion. YES, there is a jig! I found this midi of the Gravel Walks jig Written by Cathal McConnell, and this gif of the sheet music. Unfortunately, as Sean said - no chords. (And I play fiddle, so I'm not much help.) I also learned that Cathal transformed 2 of the 4 parts of the reel into a jig. So if anyone has chords to the reel... |
27 Nov 00 - 01:14 PM (#347095) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: RichM It's in 4/4 time, 2 beats per chord shown: "/" means repeat the previous chord Gravel Walk 4/4 Adorian |: Am / | / G | Am Em | C G :| |: Am D | Am G |1. Am D | C Em :| |2. Am C | C Em || |: / Am | / G | Am D | C G :| |: C Am | C G | C Am | C Em | | C Am | C G |1. Am C | C Em :| 2. Am / | C G || |
27 Nov 00 - 01:16 PM (#347096) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Malcolm Douglas I don't generally do chords, but I do have the Fakebook and Mallinson versions (reel in both cases): the former uses A, G, and Am, the latter Am, G, A, D, F, Em, and C. If that's complex enough for you, PM me with your email and I'll send you the notation. Malcolm |
27 Nov 00 - 01:34 PM (#347109) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Noreen So this is the magic formula: just write Not often that Mudcat lets me down.
Thanks for having a go. with a sad expression, and people jump...! I was going to go to the piano and work something out for you too... I like it! Noreen |
28 Nov 00 - 12:36 PM (#347560) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Sean MacRuaraidh Thanks for the help. Malcom: I am particularly interested in the second version of the chords i.e. Am, G, A, D, F, Em, and C I would like to get hold of this so I'll send you a PM ! Rich : I will have a go with these chords too. Sean
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29 Nov 00 - 01:37 PM (#348388) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Seany Malcom, how do I PM you ? Seany |
29 Nov 00 - 07:32 PM (#348591) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Malcolm Douglas Ah, sorry about that; I didn't notice that you hadn't registered as a member, which you have to do in order to send personal messages. You can email me at malcolm.douglas@virgin.net Malcolm |
30 Nov 00 - 07:12 AM (#348788) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Malcolm Douglas And then I didn't notice that you have joined up now; I really must get more sleep! If you click on "Personal Pages" right at the top of the main Forum Page, that will take you to your own page, where you can send personal messages, store thread traces and bookmarks, etc. Malcolm |
13 Oct 19 - 03:43 PM (#4013439) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: alanabit I have been learning to play this very dramatic reel on the mandolin. I wonder if the tune might have a dramatic story associated with it as it is very evocative of high tension? |
13 Oct 19 - 03:49 PM (#4013441) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Starship https://fawbie.info/the-spirit-level/the-gravel-walks/ alanabit, see if this is any use to you. |
13 Oct 19 - 04:01 PM (#4013443) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: alanabit Thanks. It is certainly one way of looking at it! |
13 Oct 19 - 04:45 PM (#4013446) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Jack Campin With tunes like this, simpler is better. Complicating the harmony with unnecessary chords diminishes the effect of the tune. |
14 Oct 19 - 02:25 PM (#4013645) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Jerry Well said. This strident tune is surely more dramatic with just Am and G chords, with the C major providing some relief in the fourth part. |
15 Oct 19 - 05:05 AM (#4013721) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Kenny https://youtu.be/t3G_zrZw9Ik |
15 Oct 19 - 05:08 AM (#4013723) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Gordon Jackson I also agree completely with Jack. Actually, using A5 and G5 is much, much more powerful than Amin and Gmaj. |
15 Oct 19 - 05:11 AM (#4013724) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Steve Shaw One of the best sessions I ever went to, in Hughes' Bar in Dublin, just had all the musicians playing the tunes without harmony at all. Well, there might have been occasional drone notes from Gabriel McKeon's pipes, I can't quite remember. If tunes are well played in unison the harmony happens inside your head. I've never heard anyone strumming along to Bach's solo cello suites. ;-) Most of the time in those there's a single melody line only, with just a bit of double stopping here and there, but the harmony is all there in your imagination. Strummed or plucked instruments "doing the backing" were what finally stopped me from playing in public a few years ago as my hearing went down and I struggled to pick out and latch on to the lads playing the actual tunes, so I suppose I'm biased. |
15 Oct 19 - 05:46 AM (#4013732) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: GUEST,Kenny It might not be classed as "harmony", but there is a common occurrence in Donegal fiddle music where some players will play the same tune a whole octave lower than "normal". Especially common where a group are playing "The Gravel Walk[s]". And I'll also agree with what Jack said. |
15 Oct 19 - 05:52 AM (#4013735) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Steve Shaw When I said unison I meant playing the same notes of the scale at the same time but not necessarily at the same pitch. |
15 Oct 19 - 05:56 AM (#4013739) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Stanron The Bach cello suites, along with lots of folk tunes, do have chords but they are played one note after the other rather than all the notes at the same time. Sometimes chords are implied but quite often they are actually there, just sort of spread out. I had a big long argument with someone on the Session once who insisted that tunes did not have harmonies inside them. I could understand the objection to guitars knocking out chords all the time. I too prefer to hear just the melody, but those internal chords are there. |
15 Oct 19 - 07:42 AM (#4013760) Subject: RE: Help: The Gravel Walks From: Steve Shaw Well most tunes contain snatches of scales* and little note sequences that could be regarded as arpeggios, or at least scraps of them. It's virtually unavoidable. I'm saying that individual notes within the context of the tune can suggest harmony. That's your personal reaction, not necessarily a deliberate ploy of the composer. Great art always leaves a lot up to you. You don't have to wait for the end of a note sequence before you have a lightbulb moment. And that's as philosophical as I'm likely to get today. *Which is a good argument for not bothering to practise scales. As that mighty guru on TheSession often said, tunes ARE scales, so just play tunes. |