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06 Jan 01 - 01:58 AM (#369545) Subject: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Eric-o Hi All! Hope you don't mind a stranger dropping in to ask a question; I do a single pub/lounge act. I'm not of Celtic decent, however I love the music and spirit and do have a fair repetoire of such tunes. I've been asked to perform on Robbie Burns day this year and though I did do this once before (three years ago - very challenging but most enjoyable), I feel that I could prepare better this time. Could a few of you kind people help me out with a short list of songs that you'd consider to be "musts" to have up my sleeve that day? I'm a quick study so I probably have just enough time to add a handful to my list. Also, any others not by Burns that would contribute? Thank you kindly, and best New Years wishes! E
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06 Jan 01 - 02:08 AM (#369547) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Amergin Anything but Auld Lang Syne..... |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:36 AM (#369575) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peter Kasin "A Man's A Man For A' That." Great song! Very rousing and beautiful. It's in the Digitrad. You very well might have the crowd singing along on this, and it would make a great finisher. "Ye Banks And Braes" and "My Love Is Like A Red, Red Rose" are other popular Burns songs. "If I Were A Baron's Heir" is a beautiful, romantic song. It's hard to go wrong with almost any Burns song on that day, but I second Amergin's motion. -chanteyranger |
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06 Jan 01 - 07:10 AM (#369606) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Mac Tattie Dear Eric-o Perhaps you should start by calling the bard by his propper name,Robert,or Rabbie. Robbie Burns sounds too much like some dreadfull gameshow host. Songs they are aplenty but you aint got much time left to learn them. Nothing wrong with Auld Lang Syne, but use the tune the song was built arround. My own favourite is, "Of a' the airts the wind can blaw I dearly lo'e the west". |
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06 Jan 01 - 08:31 AM (#369619) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: kendall You think YOU have a problem..I am to perform to honor the great one too, on Jan. 27th, and,among other things, I'm expected to write a poem in the Burns style! I havn't a clue.. |
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06 Jan 01 - 08:34 AM (#369620) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Snuffy There's a song called the Star of Rabbie Burns, which is about him, not by him. You can piece it together at this thread Wassail! V |
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06 Jan 01 - 08:59 AM (#369630) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Charcloth For idea's you might check out Andy M. Stewart's CD on Greenlinnet records titled "Songs of Robert Burns sung By Andy M. Stewart" ( yeah it won't be hard to remember that title) Carl Peterson has a small book & tape of 12 Burn's songs called "There was a Lad" it's by Darach recordings. I know that Rantin Rovin' Robin " is often well recieved it is also called "There was a Lad". Here are a few titles off the 2 recording I mentioned.////// "Rantin Roving Robin" //// "Ca' The Yowes to the Knowes",/// "Is there for Honest Poverty",/// "Green grow the Rashes",// " Ae Fond Kiss",// "It was All fgor our rightful King",// "John Hielandman",/// Flow Gently Sweet Afton",// "Scots Wha Hae",// "My Love is Like a Red Red Rose",// "Ye Jacobites By name" |
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06 Jan 01 - 12:38 PM (#369744) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Megan L GUEST,Mac Tattie While your choice of names have some Scottish merit I would prefer the name he refered to his own birth with (Robin) |
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06 Jan 01 - 12:42 PM (#369750) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peg Song Composed in August (Westlin' Winds) is a must in my book... Kendall, email me and I can help you wi' that... peg |
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06 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM (#369752) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Sarah "My Heart's in the Highlands" "Oh, Wert Thou in the Cauld Blast"(lovely thing) and go ahead and do "Auld Lang Syne" -- but do the whole song! Sarah |
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06 Jan 01 - 12:47 PM (#369756) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peg also try this: http://www.robertburns.org/works/
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06 Jan 01 - 01:55 PM (#369783) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Mac Tattie Aye, Megan L, but it's still no "Robbie". |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:17 PM (#369834) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron ROBIN???? First ah heard o it.Where did ye hear that Megan? ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:21 PM (#369838) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Eric,if ye want tae be different ye can liven things up wi"Nine Inch will Please a Lady"Here it is http://www.puddock.demon.co.uk/Nine.html ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:26 PM (#369842) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Nynia Hi Eric-o, are you looking for songs ATTRIBUTED to Burns or song HE actually wrote? The latter is a far harder task. Nynia :-) -) ) |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:29 PM (#369843) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Why would that be harder? ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:33 PM (#369846) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peter Kasin If you have trouble finding "If I Were A Baron's Heir" it's because I erred - it should be "Gin I were..." -chanteyranger I haven't heard the whole Auld Lang Syne. Maybe I should give that a listen. Any good recordings of the complete song? |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:34 PM (#369848) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Nynia Hi LJC, Happy New Year to you. Can you say with any confidence what he actually wrote and what he colleced and modified for his own ends? Nynia :-) -) ) |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:41 PM (#369855) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Sarah chanteyranger, It's not in the DT? Gawd... Sarah |
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06 Jan 01 - 03:50 PM (#369862) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Same tae ye Nynia.Ah cannae say much wi confidence nooadays,even masel. ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 04:08 PM (#369874) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Sarah On second thought, chanteyranger, I remember (short-term memory GONE!!!) that someone asked for all the lyrics on a thread at the end of Dec -- 30 or 31, really shaving it -- and the entire lyrics are posted there. Thread name was "Auld Langsyne," I think. Caught my pedantic attention. Sarah |
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06 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM (#369876) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Here is a really good site aboot Burns.It covers a lot of ground concerning his life and works including how to arrange a Burns Supper. ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM (#369878) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: R! Mary Morrison, Ay Waukin O, The De'il's Awa' Wi' The Exciseman, Up Wi' The Carls O' Dysart, Logan Water. The list goes on. Rowana |
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06 Jan 01 - 04:29 PM (#369883) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Uncle_DaveO I wooed and won my Beatiful Wife, singing "Bonnie Wee Thing" to her! You're not likely to find a more romantic Burns song--or anybody's song! Dave Oesterreich |
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06 Jan 01 - 04:38 PM (#369889) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Amergin You sang about your bonnie wee thing DaveO? |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:09 PM (#369908) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: kendall I have in my collection the works of Robert Burns in four volumes, with an account of his life. Illustrated, dated 1820 London. I find it hard reading with the accent and all. (Dont drool on you keyboard) |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:13 PM (#369912) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Kendall.somewhere on the net is a Burns site that has a glossary of words in the poems and songs of Burns.I will see if i can find it again,might take me a while again. ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:20 PM (#369923) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Jings[another euphemism] here it is already.this should keep you occupied for years. http://www.backhaul.net/burns/burns.htm ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:22 PM (#369927) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: pastorpest I would add "Parcel of Rogues" to the list of songs. Also I am with little john cameron on Burns' name. Ian McIntyre's carefully rsearched biography of Burns "Dirt and Diety" begins with these wrods: "The entry in the Ayr parish register is the briefest: `Robert Burns, lawful son to William Burns, in Alloway, and Agnes Brown, his spouse, was born January 25, 1759; bapd. 26, by William Dalrymple. Witnesses: John Tennant and Jas. Young.'" I have never heard Burns referred to as "Robin" either. |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:23 PM (#369929) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: kendall Thank you..it has been said that he made up words of his own..what say you? |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:28 PM (#369934) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Sarah Ooh, yes, I'll vote for "Parcel of Rogues" -- whadda song! Sarah |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:40 PM (#369942) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Somebody had to make them up.How about Dickens and Shakespeare?They were at it all the time.With the explosion of the I.T. industry new words are coined all the time. ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:54 PM (#369951) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Tattie Bogle As on anither thread, try the ither tune for "Auld Lang Syne" as sung by "The Cast", Rod Paterson and others. My favourite has to be "Ae Fond Kiss" |
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06 Jan 01 - 05:58 PM (#369955) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Ach! ah'm gettin richt intae this noo.Dae ye mind whit ah said aboot hearin this spoken word,weel here are ah few real audio samples o Burns. http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/burnsframe.html |
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06 Jan 01 - 06:51 PM (#370000) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron here's ane ah forgot a posted a while ago. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?ThreadID=28082 |
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06 Jan 01 - 06:54 PM (#370002) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Bradypus If you want something a bit humorous, try 'The Craw killed the Pussy-O' Bradypus |
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06 Jan 01 - 07:52 PM (#370043) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Did Rabbie write that? Ah dinnae think sae!! ljc |
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06 Jan 01 - 08:18 PM (#370053) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Matt_R --Winter O' Life --My Jean (Of A' The Airts Tha Blaw) --Wha Will I Dae Gin My Hoggie Die? --My Heart's In The Hielands I can't remember the names of those other good ones I like. Feeling a bit despondent right now. Oh yeah, and that one that goes "Up your ass wi' a dick o' brass". |
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07 Jan 01 - 12:09 AM (#370190) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peg Rabbie wrote "Parcel of Rogues"? I didn't know that! another great song. Kendall, I am drooling!!! |
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07 Jan 01 - 12:30 PM (#370351) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peter Kasin A story about Burns: He had a little-known and short-lived marriage to a woman named Nera. She played fiddle, but was so scratchy and terrible at it, every time she practiced, it drove him to go out roaming the country. So....... "As Nera fiddled, Burns roamed." -chanteyranger |
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07 Jan 01 - 02:16 PM (#370402) Subject: Lyr Add: THERE WAS A LAD (Robert Burns) From: Megan L Shame on you LJC I can't do clicky things so had to copy it from digitrad
THERE WAS A LAD
There was a lad was born in Kyle,
Robin was a rovin' boy,
Our monarch's hindmost year but ane
The Gossip keekit in his loof,
He'll hae misfortunes great and sma',
But sure as three times three mak nine,
"Guid faith," quo' scho, "I doubt you Stir, |
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07 Jan 01 - 03:43 PM (#370420) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron This is caed rantin, rovin Robin. Ye'll notice that Robin wis born in Kyle and Rab wis born in Alloway. The tune o this is Dainty Davie. Also this was not published by Burns though that disnae mean he never wrote it. ljc |
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07 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM (#370425) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Guid ane Chantey. ljc |
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07 Jan 01 - 10:49 PM (#370665) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Rhona Forget the sappy 'Ae Fond Kiss' type songs and play some lively ones. A good one would be 'O wilt thou go wi' me sweet Tibbie Dunbar' or 'The Waukrife Minnie'. There's many other usually ignored songs that Rab wrote which are funny, lively and good to play a fiddle to. Do some research. Your audience will prefer the fun ones over the slow, despairing ones. |
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07 Jan 01 - 11:05 PM (#370669) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Matt_R Akkk I done fergot "Tibbie Fowler". When I sing it, no one has any idea what I'm saying! |
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08 Jan 01 - 01:35 AM (#370720) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Eric-o I've been away since I very tentatively posted for help on essential Rabbie Burns. What a wonderful surprize to return to all of this information! This is exactly what I'd hoped for. Thanks too, for setting me straight on the handle. Don't want to look too foolish. Guess I'm on the right track, as I know about ¼ of those suggested to date. The biggest challenge of course is remembering the airs and approximating the brogue. Listening to Dougie MacLean renditions makes the task seem more possible, thank goodness. Enough from me - but thank you nice people!! |
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08 Jan 01 - 01:39 AM (#370721) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring Please do "The Star o' Rabbie Burns", which sums up his career and later fame very well. I've sung this myself instead of giving the "Immortal Memory" speech, and it does the job. ALSO please if you do [or anybody does] "Auld Lang Syne", PULEASE pronounce the thing properly--that last word sounds exactly the same as the trig function (sine), not like the German "sein". Good luck.. |
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08 Jan 01 - 02:21 AM (#370738) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Eric-o Thank you Murray! & thank you all! I'm off to do more research... Eric-o |
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08 Jan 01 - 04:37 AM (#370759) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Jock Morris LJC, I suspect that 'Kyle' refers to the old district name of 'Kyle and Carrick', which Alloway is in. I lived in Alloway from 18 months old to 21 years and the bard was always referred to as Robert or Rabbie, never Robin. Haven't spotted Aye Fond Kiss mentioned in the thread yet; one of my favourites. Scott |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:06 AM (#370776) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Mary in Kentucky John in Brisbane put together this Scottish Glossary (http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=19486#207720), which, if memory serves me correctly, is larger than the link above provided by LJC because it includes all those words and more. I have to confess, LJC, I have to use it when I read your posts and when I hear the words to a Scottish song. But they don't have the word, ferniticles! (See, I remembered it, LJC.) |
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08 Jan 01 - 11:05 AM (#370847) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Ye're richt Jock. Ah think mibbe Rab wis writin aboot hisel an didnae want tae brag.Robin wis jist tae fool awbody. Gled ye can understaun aw mah clishmaclaver Freckle face. ljc |
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08 Jan 01 - 11:15 AM (#370852) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron It is thought that Burns may have written this as a celebration of his 28th birthday. ljc |
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08 Jan 01 - 11:26 AM (#370859) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Here's a braw pic o Tam O'Shanter http://www.worldburnsclub.com/images/c_mcqueen/tamo.jpg |
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08 Jan 01 - 02:05 PM (#370984) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Turtle What about Rattlin' Roarin' Willie for a more lively Burns song? That's always been one of my favorites. |
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08 Jan 01 - 02:08 PM (#370988) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Peg little john; i was told Burns died at age 27 (complicatiosn from pneumonia as a result of taking the "ocean cure")...so did he indeed reach his 28th birthday? peg
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08 Jan 01 - 03:56 PM (#371052) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Burns Fact: On the day Burns was buried, 25th of July 1796, his wife Jean was giving birth to the last of his children, Maxwell Burns. ljc |
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08 Jan 01 - 04:18 PM (#371064) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: little john cameron Burns Fact: Burns was born on January 25th, 1759 in Alloway. ljc |
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08 Jan 01 - 05:28 PM (#371116) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: john c For me, Burns collected a lot of great songs - maybe wrote a couple more - wrote miles and miles of very ho-hum poetry (which I had to learn at school) - and gave the world Tam o´Shanter, a work of pure, unadulterated genius! Hoots, J. |
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08 Jan 01 - 05:54 PM (#371131) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Bradypus Apologies for getting 'The Craw Killed the Pussy' wrong - we were taught it at school to 'Green Grow the Rashes', and somehow the crossover link got stuck in my brain. 'Kyle and Carrick' is new. The old districts of Ayrshire were Kyle (where Alloway is), Carrick (to the south) and Cunningham (to the north, various spellings). There was an old rhyme which went either:
Kyle for a man(Burns) As I was taught it in Carrick, we prefered the second version! Bradypus
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08 Jan 01 - 06:28 PM (#371166) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST |
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08 Jan 01 - 06:43 PM (#371176) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Mark. West Sussex. UK Careful Eric-o. Doing a Burns Night can be tricky. The Scots are just about the most compicated audience what with Highland/Lowland and Clan complications. Avoid political songs like "Ye Jacobites by name" and its converse "Cam ye oe'r frae France". You'll have both parties in your audience. I would avoid "Parcel o' Rogues" for the same reason. Tug at the heartstrings with old favourites like "Leezy Linday", "The Weavin's no for you", "Land o' the Leal", "Mingulay Boat Song", "Jock Stuart" and such. (Ok so we've bought in the likes of Lady Nairn and such there, but it is the songs they love. There is now a superb CD collection by great Scots artists of the complete Burns Collection. Check out Dick Gaughan's and the McCalman's Web sites if you need lyrics etc. Listen to Crobh Rua's version of "A man's a man.." before daring to sing it. Finally, you will be plied with endless drams from audience. Find a way of politely and discretely disposing of them. Do not refuse them or drink them. Either way you won't finish your set intact. Good Luck Hin! |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:32 PM (#371214) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Snuffy Type in "@scots AND Burns" in the Digitrad Lyrics search box and you'll get 147 songs written or collected by the man |
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09 Jan 01 - 04:00 AM (#371335) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Jock Morris 'Kyle and Carrick' may be relatively new, but it's still been replaced not once but twice. Firstly by Strathclyde and now by (I think) South Ayrshire and West Ayrshire. Wish they'd stop messing about with the boundaries for political purposes and go back to the old boundaries which on the whole made more geographical sense. Scott |
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09 Jan 01 - 02:04 PM (#371571) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Bearheart Glad you asked, though I think most everyone else has submitted my favorites. Now though I have a bunch of websites etc to check out! Hope there will be more of the same... Bekki |
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09 Jan 01 - 05:05 PM (#371710) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: Bradypus Jock - noy quite right about Strathclyde - Strathclyde is a Region, consisting of many districts includung (originally, but no longer) Kyle and Carrick). Bradypus |
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09 Jan 01 - 05:08 PM (#371715) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Guest Try Robert Burns Country www.robertburns.org/works/371 |
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11 Jan 01 - 02:07 AM (#372738) Subject: RE: Essential Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Eric-o Thank you once again, everyone! I was sorta embarassed to post the question originally. Actually stirred up lots of interest/assistance. A very helpful and caring post from Mark of West Sussex - I remember a similar warning concerning a number of certain Irish songs when I started playing pubs years ago. Thanks Snuffy for pointing me to the database. I'm not too bright at the end of the day - it was right there to be had all along! zzzzzzzz Cheers! Eric-o |