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22 Feb 01 - 06:52 PM (#404125) Subject: Nancy from London From: Liz the Squeak A song I learned centuries ago, the tune is of the same name. All I remember is that it starts:
It's Nancy from London, from fair England's stream Any suggestions? I've tried the DT, but come up with nothing like the one. Thanks LTS |
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22 Feb 01 - 06:56 PM (#404129) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Liz the Squeak And the tune is called Nancy of Yarmouth, just to confuse the issue. LTS |
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23 Feb 01 - 05:01 AM (#404395) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Nemesis The one I know is "Pretty Nancy of Yarmouth" - just looked thought I had the words - but only on cassette - will look it out for you. This is on the B list of our repertoire as the harmonies are NOT easy!! Will get back to you. But have you tried the "lyric search?" |
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23 Feb 01 - 08:54 AM (#404443) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: wes.w LTS/Challis - First verse:
Pretty Nancy from Yarmouth, she's my own hearts delight, |
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23 Feb 01 - 09:07 AM (#404446) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Wolfgang 'Jimmy and Nancy' in the DT? Wolfgang |
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23 Feb 01 - 10:20 AM (#404486) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Malcolm Douglas There is more than one story involved. (Pretty) Nancy of Yarmouth, also called The Sea Storm (Roud 407) is about, well, a storm at sea. Peter Bellamy sang it with the Young Tradition, but the text had been re-written (by him, I think?) retaining the traditional first verse and then going on to tell a quite different story. See: Pretty Nancy of Yarmouth DT file; text and tune; taken from a book I've never seen, but transcribed from Bellamy's singing, I suspect, rather than from any traditional source. Could be wrong, mind.
For Sea Storm texts, see these at the Bodleian Library Broadside Collection.:
At the Bodleian:
There's even one with a happy ending:
There's more, of course, but that should be enough to be going on with. Is any of this anything to do with what you were looking for? |
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25 Feb 01 - 07:34 PM (#406182) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Liz the Squeak Nope, none of the ones there that I could actually read.... Basically it is a love song about Nancy who loves William, and he is a sailor. The lines I quoted are correct, and the tune is quite wistful and almost a lament. I think it may be local to Dorset, it's certainly the only place I've found it..... LTS |
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25 Feb 01 - 08:24 PM (#406193) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Malcolm Douglas Well, we've done what we could with the information we had. The fact that almost everybody in these kind of songs is called William and Nancy (with the occasional Jimmy and Polly) doesn't exactly simplify things: it's a bit like looking for the right John Smith in the phone book. Do you remember any more of the words? Malcolm |
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25 Feb 01 - 10:36 PM (#406234) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Stewie In his 'Foggy Dew' compilation Frank Purslow gives an alternative text for 'Pretty Nancy'. He said it's a typical example of alternative texts by some Dorset and Hampshire singers. It begins:
Pretty Nancy of (London) she dwells in our street Is this closer to what you are after? --Stewie. |
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25 Feb 01 - 11:39 PM (#406271) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Malcolm Douglas Gordon Bennett, the only Purslow book I haven't managed to get hold of. Wouldn't you know it, moan grumble... Good work, Stewie. |
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26 Feb 01 - 02:42 PM (#406637) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Liz the Squeak YES!!! that sounds a great deal more like it!!! I was thinking maybe I remembered it wrong and it was William who belonged to the Queen.... but yes, do you have the rest of it please?? At least it fits the tune in my head.... unlike any of the others. Thank you. LTS |
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26 Feb 01 - 06:22 PM (#406752) Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTY NANCY ^^ From: Stewie PRETTY NANCY (Alternative text) Pretty Nancy of (London) she dwells in our street She was courted by William who belongs to the fleet When the trumpet it sounded, to the wars he must go Which filled her poor bosom with sorrow and woe 'Oh, Nancy, dear Nancy', these words he did say 'Our ship she lies anchored and I must away' As he kissed her red, rosy cheeks tears from his eyes did fall When he bid his dear Nancy adieu and farewell 'Oh, William, dear William, this will break my heart Since you and I, love, for ever must part You are a-going to those wars, love, where loud cannons roar Where I never, no never, shall see you any more' Oh, the stormy winds blow, boys, they make my pillow shake It makes my room windows for to shiver and quake God knows where my love lies so far from the shore I'll pray for his welfare, what can I do more? When the sailors are sailing they drink a health to their wives For they all love their sweethearts as they love their own lives Here's a full punch going round, my boys, here's a full glass in hand Here's a health to loving Nancy that I leave on dry land Source: Frank Purslow (ed) 'The Foggy Dew' EFDS Publications Ltd, London, 1974, p 72. ^^
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27 Feb 01 - 07:39 AM (#407084) Subject: Lyr Add: NANCY FROM YARMOUTH^^ From: wes.w Liz, Ageing brain. Knew it rang a bell, I sang it only last year! It may not be the same as yours, but its West Country local and alternative to Stewie's one. From Susan Williams, Haselbury Plucknett, Somerset, via Cecil Sharp 1. Pretty Nancy of London who lives in High Street, |
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27 Feb 01 - 05:23 PM (#407476) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Liz the Squeak Ooooh, now that is different, Wes.w.... nice too. The one I learned was probably an updated version of the Purslow song. Thanks guys, the tune is now squirrelling like no body's business and won't go away until I expurge the wretched thing by singing it all the way through! Thanks everyone! LTS |
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28 Feb 01 - 12:48 AM (#407779) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Joe Offer Do we already have the tune for these two versions somewhere in the Digital Tradition, or is some kind soul going to e-mail it to me? Thanks. -Joe Offer (click to e-mail)- |
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01 Mar 01 - 09:50 AM (#408750) Subject: Tune Add: PRETTY NANCY OF LONDON From: wes.w So I did... This is almost Young Tradition '..Of Yarmouth' tune, but not quite: T:PRETTY NANCY OF LONDON L:1/8 M:3/4 K:D A2 A2 |A3 G E2|C2 D2 EF|G3 E C2|D4 D2|\ EFG2A2| =c2 A2 A2|G2 F2 G2|A4 DE|\ F2 G2 A2| =c2 A2 A2|G2 F2 G2|A4 A2|\ A3 F D2| C2 D2 EF| G2 ED C2 |D2 ||
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01 Mar 01 - 09:59 AM (#408757) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Malcolm Douglas There's a midi with the DT file, which is Peter Bellamy's text; there's something rather odd about the midi, though; it doesn't sound at all right to me. Perhaps it came from the Myers book, and is either a different version or the tune was transcribed wrongly in the first place? Malcolm |
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01 Mar 01 - 05:41 PM (#409055) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: Liz the Squeak Thank you for reminding me it was Bellamy, now I can find the original source I got it from.... I dunno, brain like a seive..... LTS |
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12 Apr 10 - 03:20 PM (#2884978) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: GUEST,Pumphouse Pete Hi Everyone, I've been lookining for the lyrics to "Pretty Nancy" as well, but the version I've been trying to find is by John Tams (worship & praise!!) off of his "The Reckoning" CD. Lots of similarities and differences to the versions already quoted. Starts off as "Pretty Nancy of London,from that fair England's street,She was courted by William ............" and the tune is the Yarmouth one. Haven't been able to find it on the omniscient internet, so I'll just have (labouriously) transcribe it from the CD and I'll probably invoke the Folk Process and include some of the verses from here. Good to have all the background & different versions. As & when I get it done, I'll post it. Cheers for now |
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22 Apr 16 - 07:11 AM (#3786610) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: GUEST Coming to this thread fifteen years on, it does of course occur that maybe Liz the Squeak has taken up some other avenue instead, and possibly got so fed up waiting for a definitive answer that she gave up entirely. I hope not. John Faulkner (Critics Group, Combine, Reel Union, etc)., used to sing 'Nancy of London' back in the 60s and 70s. Might still sing it, even though he decamped to Galway many decades ago. ...the fair inland stream... made a lot more sense than the 'street', too. What's an inland street? Anyway, try this link for a fairly comprehensive essay on this and other versions: https://mainlynorfolk.info/peter.bellamy/songs/prettynancyofyarmouth.html Can't find any recordings of the song, which is a shame, as Faulkner made it into a classic (rather than just a sort of singalong folk song). Still, maybe after All These Years someone will shed more light on it! Cheers. A. |
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22 Apr 16 - 08:08 AM (#3786622) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nancy from Yarmouth From: MGM·Lion Have a recollection of Bonny Sartin and the Yetties singing it as Nancy Of Weymouth. ≈M≈ |
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