10 Mar 01 - 11:26 AM (#414641) Subject: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: banjogal Anyone know the history of this tune? Who wrote it or if it's traditional, any other verses, where it came from.... Thanks Click for lyrics in Digital TraditionSWING AND TURN, JUBILEEIt's all out on the old railroad, It's all out on the sea, All out on the old railroad, Far as I can see. cho: Swing and turn, Jubilee, Live and learn, Jubilee. Hardest work I ever done, Workin' on the farm, Easiest work I ever done, Swingin' my true love's arm. If I had a needle and thread, As fine as I could sew, I'd sew my true love to my side And down this creek I'd go. If I had no horese to ride, I'd be found a-crawlin' Up and down this rocky road Lookin' for my darlin'. Some will come on a Sat'day night, Some will come on Sunday; If you give 'em half a chance They'll be back on Monday. I won't have no widder man Neither will my cousin, You can get such stuff as that For fifteen cents a dozen. Coffee grows on a white oak tree, Sugar runs in brandy, Girls are sweet as a lump of gold, Boys as sweet as candy. @dance @banjo filename[ JUBLEE RG |
10 Mar 01 - 12:11 PM (#414674) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: wysiwyg No, but welcome to the Mudcat! Just arrived? ~Susan |
10 Mar 01 - 12:21 PM (#414687) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Sandy Paton It's from Jean Ritchie, and is probably under copyright. She's an occasional Mudcatter, so she can answer your question better than anyone else! Come on in, Kytrad! Sandy |
10 Mar 01 - 01:05 PM (#414734) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: GUEST,Roll&Go-C Looks to me from the DT like there are a number of floating verses from Shady Grove, Get Along Home, Cindy, I'm Goin' Down to Lynchburg Town et al; my favorite verse of this type is: Love it is a killing thing, Beauty is a blossem, If you want your finger bit, Poke it at a possum. But then there's also: I'm gonna get some sticks and stones, Build my chimney higher, So when that old tom cat comes by, He won't put out my fire.
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10 Mar 01 - 01:48 PM (#414753) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Pinetop Slim Sandy, from her last postings, I'd guess Jean Ritchie still has another week or so on her 50th anniversary Caribbean cruise. Alan Lomax, in Folk Songs of N. America, says she recorded it for him in 1949. "A composite of stanzas from many play-party and square dance songs. Last two verses added from the record Southern Singing Games, Elektra EKLP 2." |
10 Mar 01 - 03:22 PM (#414788) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Sandy Paton I haven't looked, but isn't the song included in her Singing Family of the Cumberlands? Granted, it's a "zipper verse" type of song, but if Alan included it in Folk Songs of North America, you can bet your boots that someone has this particular version copyrighted. I remember Frank Warner singing the "get your finger bit" verse in one of his songs. True, too! Sandy |
10 Mar 01 - 03:31 PM (#414790) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: chip a Welcome Banjogal! I also just joined. Just yesterday I checked out an old album "Banjo Playing Girl" from the library. A scratchy collection of old time female singers & banjo pickers. It's got a lot of good stuff on it. "Banjo on my knee blues" is a good one. Chip |
10 Mar 01 - 04:03 PM (#414808) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Joe Offer It's not in "Singing Family," Sandy, but it is in Jean Ritchie's Folk Songs of the Southern Appalachians, which I think is still in print. Jean says the song was copyrighted in 1939 by Lynn Rorhbough. Jean says her mother and father used to sing and play this party game when they were courting. I'll send Jean a personal message and ask what she can post about the song. -Joe Offer- |
10 Mar 01 - 06:05 PM (#414847) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Hello all, and welcome, Banjoperson! Well, Jubilee IS a Ritchie Family gamesong, but I never did a "protective" copyright on it because it was collected from another source in the community- everyone around knew it. A lady named Marian Skein wrote it down at Ary, KY, and it was published by (Mr.) Lynn Rohrbough, Cooperative Recreation Service, Delaware, OH in 1939. Now has become World Around Songs and has a different address (will look it up if anyone REALLY wants to know!). The verses we sing are pretty well set, as we sang just the number to get us through one turn of the game (circle for as many as will, but our living rooms would hold just about six or seven couples). There's a reel down between the lines at the end, then another couple leads out, as in the Virginia Reel. If anyone needs my verses, holler. Folk Songs of the Southern Appalachians was reissued last year by University Press of KY; this year they reissued, The Swapping Song Book. It's like having a second family, very pleasing. Just home from "crusin, bloody-well cruisin." Amazing to float around on calm seas in eternally sunny warmth (80F every day), no cooking to do, no dishes to wash, family members being unbelievably, suspiciously nice. Cruising is something we never do- (we're so busy, and it's such an uppity thing for folkpeople to do), but we decided that as this particular Anniversary comes round only once in 50 years, we'd better get the hang of it. Report: It was beautiful, exciting, a bit boring, restful,expensive, exhausting and a lot of fun! I'm glad to be home. Jean
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10 Mar 01 - 08:03 PM (#414890) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Sandy Paton And we're glad to have you back safely and on dry land again, Jean! Maybe when Caroline and I make it to our fiftieth we'll have a go at one of those uppity cruises! Anyone else remember all those little songbooks put out by the Cooperative Recreation Service, or the wonderful variety of wooden toys they marketed? A lot of us still have boxed sets of them on our shelves. They were a bit annoying, sometimes, because the "Vermont Sings" booklet (for example) would add a few songs from Vermont to many of the songs that had appeared in other songbooks, and the contents would be a bit disappointing, since very little would be new! But some of those litte books became and remain classics. We also got out first Tangram puzzle from them, nicely crafted from walnut. Sandy |
11 Mar 01 - 05:07 AM (#415068) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Joe Offer For the record, here's the address for World Around Songs: 20 Colberts Creek Road Burnsville, NC 28714 (828)675-5343 I got a copy of their catalog in the mail just this week. I thought they had a pocket play party songbook, but it looks like what they have is bigger and better. Guess I'll have to get it, although what I'm really looking for is The Singing Game by the Opies. -Joe Offer- |
11 Mar 01 - 03:07 PM (#415333) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Sandy Paton ABE lists one copy from K Books at $36.72, Joe. Too rich for my blood, but there it is. I found it through Bookfinder.com. Sandy |
11 Mar 01 - 05:35 PM (#415447) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) The old Coop. Rec. Svce. put out "Handy" Kits; one was the Handy Play Party Book (over 100 playparties for $1), and a companion, Handy Square Dance Book. They were mens-back-pocket size, very practical. I guess from what you say, Joe, World Around has discontinued them. Too bad. Thanks for your welcom-home, Sandy, and we hope you make it to your 50th and long, long beyond. Jean |
11 Mar 01 - 05:55 PM (#415469) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Joe Offer Well, Jean, the Handy Play Party Book now costs $12.50, plus $3.50 shipping. It has 128 pages and a "durable wire-o binding." You say you used to pay a buck for those? I guess it shows how we're aging. There's no square dance book listed in the catalog. $36.72 is about twice what I hope to pay for The Singing Game. I meant to ask Sandy to keep an eye out for a reasonably-priced copy of the book, and I see he has anticipated my needs. What a guy! -Joe Offer- |
12 Mar 01 - 06:00 PM (#416068) Subject: RE: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Sandy Paton I'll keep watching, Joe. That's my kind of surfing! Jean, we'll look forward to sharing a concert with you on the evening of our 50th! Right now we're at 43, pushing 44, but you and George started younger than we did. Sandy |
26 Dec 12 - 04:22 PM (#3457353) Subject: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubillee From: lefthanded guitar Recently added this song to my playlist and I'm wondering if anyone knows its origins. And what the title is referencing? There's more than one version of the song btw, I do the one that starts All Along the Old Railroad. |
26 Dec 12 - 07:39 PM (#3457433) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubillee From: Mick Pearce (MCP) See this thread: Help: Swing and Turn Jubilee for some information on Jean Richie as the source and it's presence in her community. Mick
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20 Jan 17 - 02:02 PM (#3833743) Subject: Origins: Swing And Turn, Jubilee From: MickyMan Anybody have some info about the background of this song? Is it traditional or composed? I've always been under the impression that it was written by Jean Ritchie, and the version on the digitrad looks like hers in every way. It's not listed with credit for Jean Ritchie, however, but it also doesn't say "Traditional" The other day I heard a nice Youtube version by Alyson Kraus on Youtube that was much slower (listed simply as "Jubilee"). It used the same refrain as Ritchie's "Swing and turn, Jubilee Live and learn, Jubilee. The verses were different, however. Are they both writing new verses to an earlier traditional refrain? What's up? |
20 Jan 17 - 02:58 PM (#3833747) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: Joe Offer Hi, MickyMan- I've moved you over to the existing origins thread. See the message above (click) from kytrad (Jean Ritchie). She says it's from her community and her family - not her composition. -Joe- |
22 Jan 17 - 02:18 PM (#3834121) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: MickyMan Thank you for adding me here, Joe. Some good info above about Jean Ritchie's version, but perhaps some people know more about where Alyson Kraus got her verses? (Love the way that Jean Ritchie and Sandy Paton are discussing anniversaries in 2001! Gotta love MUDCAT!) |
21 Mar 19 - 12:11 PM (#3983641) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: GUEST,Random Student I just found the origins of swing and turn nubiles. It's from a 2004 documentary called "Paperclips". I hope I have helped someone! |
04 Dec 20 - 09:48 PM (#4081960) Subject: ADD Version: Swing And Turn Jubilee (Krauss) From: Joe Offer I need to add the Alison Krauss lyrics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stviDWgDHMM SWING AND TURN JUBILEE (As sung by Alison Krauss) The sun came up on Monday morn, the world was all in flame. It's all a mortal man can do, to make it right again. Swing and turn Jubilee Live and learn Jubilee The moon came up I stood my ground, and swore to not give in. To never rest and do my best, to rid this world of sin. Swing and turn jubilee Live and learn jubilee The one who spoke cried tears of hope, that we might change in time. And when I looked into her eyes, the fear I saw was mine. Swing and turn jubilee Live and learn jubilee The time had come to travel on, I made my way alone. My soul will mend at journey's end, this road will take me home. Swing and turn jubilee Live and learn jubilee
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08 Dec 20 - 12:53 AM (#4082367) Subject: ADD Version: Swing and Turn Jubilee (Ritchie) From: Joe Offer JUBILEE All out on the old railroad, ’S’all out on the sea, ’S’all out on the old railroad Far as eye can see. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! Hardest work I ever done Working on the farm, Easiest work I ever done Swinging my true love’s arm. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! Coffee grows on the white-oak tree, Sugar runs in brandy, Boys as pure as a lump of gold, Girls as sweet as candy. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! If I had me a needle and thread Fine as I could sew, Sew my true love to my side, And down this creek I’d go. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! If I had no horse to ride, I’d be found a-crawling, Up and down this rocky road Looking for my darling. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! All out on the old railroad, ’S’all out on the sea, ’S’all out on the old railroad Far as eye can see. Swing ’n’ turn, Jubilee! Live ’n’ learn, Jubilee! Copyright 1940 by Lynn Rohrbough (Cooperative Recreation Service) From Jean Ritchie's Swapping Song Book (1952 & 1999), page 26 |
19 Oct 22 - 01:28 PM (#4155620) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: GUEST,Guest: Timothy B Hi all! Just heard this tune covered by The A's. I was curious to find out if anyone knew the dance for this song? Thanks so much for all the great info here! Timothy |
19 Oct 22 - 02:01 PM (#4155622) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: cnd From American Square Dance (Dec 1979, p. 15), the dance seems to be "similar" to that of the Virginia Reel. Recall that any "flirtatious" movements like swinging. "Coffee grows on a White Oak tree,Haven't been able to find any videos or anything more direct, but that's at least a start. |
19 Oct 22 - 02:02 PM (#4155623) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: cnd ... "flirtatious" movements like swinging were not allowed. |
19 Oct 22 - 02:06 PM (#4155624) Subject: RE: Origins: Swing and Turn Jubilee From: cnd Here's something a little more concrete: This play party game comes from Jean Ritchie’s family tradition. via http://www.singinggamesforchildren.com/A%20Cluster%202.2%20Awaywego/20%20Follow%20my%20leader%20and%20other%20games%202.htm |