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02 May 01 - 12:31 PM (#453894) Subject: Pre Hit Wonders. From: GUEST,JohnB On the other end of the spectrum, pre success. Barry Mcquire was in the "New Christy Minstrels" before he got his 15 min, I seem to recollect that you can pick out his voice on Three Wheels on My Wagon. I fortunately do not have a copy to verify that. Maybee this deserves another thread of its own. OK I took the initiative and started one, my first ever. It was not even too painful, if it works. So who else wasn't famous before they were, everybody I guess. Lets just hit the really obscure ones. JohnB |
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02 May 01 - 12:37 PM (#453898) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Pseudolus Kenny Rogers was in the Fifth Dimension John Denver was in the Chad Mitchell trio And of course I have not yet personally been discovered yet!!! :( Frank |
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02 May 01 - 12:40 PM (#453900) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief Um, Kenny Rogers was in the First Edition -- not the Fifth Dimension. Pretty close though. They did that really juicy hit, "Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In." Yeah. yeah. Oh Yeah. Alex |
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02 May 01 - 12:44 PM (#453906) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Matt_R Wasn't Kenny Rogers in the New Christy Minstrels as well? |
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02 May 01 - 12:50 PM (#453913) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Pseudolus OK, I'm at work, and I had to excuse myself because I was laughing so hard....fifth Dimension????? Where the hell did I get that one....??????? ROFL!!!!!! So where's that thread about being able to laugh at yourself? I'd type some more by my village called, their idiot is missing...LOL! Frank
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02 May 01 - 12:53 PM (#453915) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief And he tried out for a spot on the Monkees too. :_) |
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02 May 01 - 12:58 PM (#453925) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Kim C Matt, I think he was in the New Christy Minstrels but I don't know that for sure......... Personally I liked "Ruby." |
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02 May 01 - 01:00 PM (#453926) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief The First Edition also had a hit with "Ruby Don't Take Your Love To Town" which hit #6 in 1969. I was made to feel really old when I was in grad school at the University of Illinois at Chicago and heard some freshmen in the library. "What's the beatles?" one asked. "Oh," answered another, "That was Paul McCartney's group before he was in Wings." Alex |
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02 May 01 - 01:07 PM (#453938) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Whistle Stop Glenn Campbell was a session musician and, for a time, a touring member of the Beach Boys before having his own hits and television show. The list of Monkees tryouts is a long one, and includes Stephen Stills, the Lovin' Spoonful (they auditioned as a band), and Charles Manson (two roads diverged in a wood...). |
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02 May 01 - 01:15 PM (#453946) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Whistle Stop And Alan Greenspan played sax in a swing band before becoming lead singer for the Federal Reserve. [This is actually true.] |
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02 May 01 - 01:17 PM (#453949) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief "Dr." Kevorkian plays saxophone. He's released a CD of death-inspired works. Heard it on NPR. Alex |
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02 May 01 - 01:25 PM (#453957) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Matt_R Jeff Lynne was famous before ELO as a member of The Move, The Idle Race, and somewhat in Mike Sheridan's Nightriders. Play it Jeffrey... |
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02 May 01 - 01:33 PM (#453968) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief Matt, obviously you are using "famous" in a sense I am not familiar with. Alex |
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02 May 01 - 01:57 PM (#453993) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: M.Ted If I am not mistaken, you can here Barry McGuire loud and clear on the NCM's "Green, Green"- Not only did Kenny Rogers come from the New Christy Minstrels, all but one of the other four in the First Edition did, as well. He also sang with the Kirby Stone Four. I was always amused by the fact that "I Just Dropped in to See What Condition My Condition Was In" was always left of of those Kenny Rogers Special TV offer compilations-- |
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02 May 01 - 02:28 PM (#454013) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief Who would have bought them otherwise, M. Ted? Alex |
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02 May 01 - 02:36 PM (#454019) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Pseudolus Anybody remember who Buddy Holly's bass player was? He gave up his seat on the plane so that the Big Bopper (who had a cold) could fly........big mistake for the Big Bopper.... I'll give ya a minute.......
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02 May 01 - 02:39 PM (#454022) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: jeffp Waylon Jennings |
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02 May 01 - 02:46 PM (#454026) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Pseudolus Yep..... |
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02 May 01 - 03:16 PM (#454047) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Lonesome EJ Peter Tork got the Monkees job in competition with his good friend Steven Stills because they needed a "Ringo"...Stills wasn't loveably dorky enough. What pre-Buffalo Springfield band-mate of Neil Youngs later had several chart hits and spent time in prison? And what aging "Statesman of the Blues" had as lead guitar players the following....Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Peter Green? |
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02 May 01 - 03:23 PM (#454053) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Matt_R Well Alex, I might say, famous in their native England... |
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02 May 01 - 03:29 PM (#454060) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: M.Ted People who were into the fact that they followed up up "Ruby" with "Ruben"(James)-- |
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02 May 01 - 03:37 PM (#454068) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: LR Mole Also because Stills had non-Hollywood teeth.Then. Rick James. (Super Freaky, yeow.) John Mayall. BUT did The Champs, of "Tequilla" fame, boast variously,Glenn Campbell, (Jim)Seals) and (Dash) Crofts, though not at the same time? |
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02 May 01 - 03:38 PM (#454071) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Matt_R Ruby she was a redhead beauty Loved Little Richard and sang Tutti-Frutti Wanted her name in lights She wore her dresses tight... |
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02 May 01 - 03:39 PM (#454072) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Benjamin Maurice White (one of the singers in Earth Wind and Fire) started his career as a drummer for Chuck Berry and Booker T and the MG's. Ronnie Laws played sax for EWF before starting his own solo career. Bobby Womak played guitar for Sam Cooke in the early 60's till Cooke died. Al Green had his own band, The Creations, who would later become Al Greene and the Soul Mates (he dropped the 'e' at the end of his name after the group broke up) which had his first hit, Back Up Train Boz Scaggs played in Steve Miller Band. I'll try to remember more later. |
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02 May 01 - 04:05 PM (#454103) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief You might, Matt, but was he? Alex |
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02 May 01 - 04:24 PM (#454134) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: GUEST,Steve N. LR Mole, The answer is yes. BTW, know how The Champs got their name?? |
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02 May 01 - 04:29 PM (#454139) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief The Rhinestone Cowboy spells his first name with only one "N". Perhaps you got him mixed up with Cruella DeVille? I do know that the Seattle Supersonics (the basketball team) asked permission of the Sonics (the Seattle-area late 1950's/early 1960's "protogrunge" band,) to use the name "Sonics". Alex |
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02 May 01 - 05:24 PM (#454183) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Benjamin That's funny Alex. I was told that the Supersonics got their name from a Boeing jet that ended up never getting built. Of course, I wasn't born when they won the finals in 79.
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02 May 01 - 05:33 PM (#454190) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief They did indeed name it after the airplane, but before doing so made sure the Sonics rock group didn't mind them using "the Sonics" as a clipped form of the name. Alex |
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02 May 01 - 06:22 PM (#454241) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: John Hardly Don Williams (those Williams boys still mean alot to me, Hank and Tennessee) was a We 5 or Pozo Seco (I always get those two mixed up) Jim Messina of Loggins and, was in The last version of Buffalo Springfield. The Stone Ponies was early Linda Ronstadt Emmylou Harris was the duet with Gram Parsons before being better known as solo self. Vince Gill was a Pure Prarie Leaguer bander in their later configuration. |
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02 May 01 - 06:50 PM (#454263) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: John Hardly oh yeah, and Them was Van Morrison |
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02 May 01 - 09:16 PM (#454377) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: GUEST,rangerogerwhoneedstoresethiscookie Alex,I was stationed in Bremerton in 1967 when the Supersonics were first formed. They actually advertised in the newspaper classifieds for basketball players to try out to join the team. rr |
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02 May 01 - 11:20 PM (#454424) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: mousethief Wild story, RR! I was 5 years old in 1967. I don't remember any of it. Alex |
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03 May 01 - 01:09 AM (#454492) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Tom D. Per the really fine liner notes in his recently released and equally fine "Retrospective" CD, Leon Russell played in a lot of Phil Spector's 'Wall of Sound' and Super Girl group stuff. I left it at work, and I can't recall some of the other groups he was with before he struck out on his own. My bad. Tom D |
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03 May 01 - 04:01 AM (#454531) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Of course Lonnie Donegan (have I mentioned him before?) was Chris Barber's banjo player before "Rock Island Line" launched his career as the UK's most prolific hitmaker until the Beatles came on the scene. What did happen to those guys? Chris Barber's band and Lonnie are still going strong! RtS |
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03 May 01 - 05:14 AM (#454549) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Lanfranc Rick Wakeman played keyboards with the Strawbs before making it big. Davey Johnson played banjo and guitar with Noel Murphy before joining Elton John's band. Long John Baldry was once in a group with Redd Sullivan. David Jones used to play in South London Folk Clubs before changing his surname to Bowie. Billy Connelly and Gerry Rafferty were the Humblebums before they became really famous. Dave Swarbrick first came to attention in the Ian Campbell Group. Linda Thompson (of Richard & Linda) was Callan's girlfriend in the 60s TV series and was in a duo with Paul McNeill before she met Richard. On the subject of Jazz musos, Acker Bilk's brother, David, ran a successful folk agency in the late 60s, fronting such artists as Jeremy Taylor, Noel Murphy, Colin Scot and Derek Brimstone.
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03 May 01 - 08:04 AM (#454609) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Whistle Stop This may be getting into the realm of the obvious (and "non-folk," depending on one's definition), but Jimi Hendrix played guitar behind Little Richard and the Isley Brothers before starting his own band. I believe the Eagles did a stint as Linda Ronstadt's backing band before getting their own thing together. Peter Frampton played lead guitar with Humble Pie before he "came alive". |
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03 May 01 - 08:12 AM (#454618) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Les from Hull Lonesome EJ - you missed another of John Mayall's 'more famous than him' lead guitarists - Mick Taylor. I believe he joined a popular beat combo called 'The Rolling Stones'. Les |
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03 May 01 - 08:18 AM (#454624) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Brakn Before Humble Pie, Peter Frampton was with The Herd. EJ Jeff Beck didn't play lead with John Mayall. |
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03 May 01 - 08:56 AM (#454668) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: MikeofNorthumbria I believe Phil Spector started his musical career in a doo-wop vocal group called The Teddy Bears (big hit "To Know Him is to Love Him"). Paul Simon and Art Garfunkle recorded Everly Brothers style duets as Tom and Jerry when they were teenagers. Bob Dylan played harmonica (very well) on an album by Carolyn Hester before he ever recorded under his own name. Jack Bruce started out playing stand-up bass in a dixieland group called Jim McHarg's Scottsville Jazz Band. Alan Lomax and Shirley Collins were both members of a skiffle group called The Ramblers. Nic Jones sang in a group called The Halliard before achieving greater renown as a solo artist. John Kirkpatrick began his musical career playing piano-accordion for Hammersmith Morris Men. John Renbourn played in an R&B band called Rupert Hogsnort and His Famous Porkestra before making it as a singer-guitarist in his own right. And there must be more ... but I can't think of any at the moment. Wassail! |
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03 May 01 - 08:59 AM (#454673) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Matt_R Robbie Williams used to be in Take That! |
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03 May 01 - 09:06 AM (#454674) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: LR Mole Got enough crossthreads in here to make a quilt...no, how did the Champs get their name? Didn'tDylan play harp on a Harry Belafonte (my dear Watson) cut? Or was that John Sebstian? |
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03 May 01 - 10:43 AM (#454736) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: Jim the Bart some interesting things you may or may not know: Leon Russell wrote "This Diamond Ring" for Gary Lewis and the Playboys. Steve Stills played guitar for Judy Collins, for whom he wrote "Suite Judy Blue Eyes" and "Helplessly Hoping"; the boy had it bad (and that ain't good). Homer and Jethro did a live album called (appropriately) "Live at the Country Club" backed up by, among others, Boots Randolph of "Yakety Sax" fame. I believe Floyd Cramer, the great Nashville pianist was also on that record. It's a very funny record and the playing is remarkable. |
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03 May 01 - 11:15 AM (#454758) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: John Hardly I always heard that Rod Stewart did harmonica on some early 60's bubblegum girl song like "My Boy Lollipop" or some such... |
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03 May 01 - 11:30 AM (#454773) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: catspaw49 Of course we cannot forget that fartistic master of music of the nether breath, the Great LePetomane... a farting maniac. Years before he achieved fame, he was simply Joseph Pujol, a Marseilles baker with excessive flatulence. Spaw |
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03 May 01 - 11:32 AM (#454777) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: LR Mole Leon produced the "This Diamond Ring" session, but I'm pretty sure the song was written by Al Kooper (NOT Alice). |
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04 May 01 - 05:23 AM (#455550) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: RichM Maybe it was from working with all that yeast.... |
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04 May 01 - 07:20 AM (#455597) Subject: RE: BS: Pre Hit Wonders. From: GUEST And wasn't Paul McCartney in a group called the Beatles before he was in Wings?
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