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18 Jun 01 - 04:42 PM (#486302) Subject: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane I have been encouraged to share my software in the hope that you may find it useful. (It's FREE at present) My program HARMONY was originally developed to add chords to melodies, but has been expanded to display and print scores, read and write abc file read and write MIDI files transpose tunes create Melodeon and Concertina tablature. Create new, random tunes (jigs are the best) I know that there are still a few bugs lurking, but it is quite usable now. To find a copy to download , click here and go to the Music page. As an example, I downloaded the MIDI file of 'For Ireland', and used HARMONY to add chords automatically and produce the following abc file - (could be prettier, but it works)
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18 Jun 01 - 06:19 PM (#486415) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane By the way, I do have work-arounds for a few known bugs - just ask me if you have problems. And DON'T use the Arpeggio chord options. They don't work well, even when working properly, which isn't often! Bass+chord works well for jigs & reels, block chords for many songs. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:24 PM (#486431) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Eric the Viking Ah, Yes ! but to an ignorant like me what do these E, E3 A A2 things mean? Please. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:40 PM (#486454) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: IvanB pavane, I tried downloading the file and got errors both when left clicking on the link or when right clicking and choosing 'Save Target As.' Are you sure the link is right? As I read it, it implies that the file is in the same directory as the Music page. But executables and zip files are usually stored in a subdirectory to which the link must point. Is anyone else having this problem? By the way, I tested the abc file you gave above and was pretty well impressed. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:41 PM (#486456) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: mousethief Eric, the number refers, I believe, to the octave. Alex |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:43 PM (#486458) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha Almost, Alex. The letter case refers to the octave, the number to time value of the note. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:44 PM (#486460) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: mousethief That only makes for 2 octaves, Sorcha! What if it's in the 3rd octave? PS IvanB, what did you use to test the ABC file? I have NWC but I don't believe it loads ABC's. Alex |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:56 PM (#486470) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Eric the Viking Thank's, I'll try it out and see if I can work out how to use it when I get time. So does it mean that I need to play two notes an octave apart? , Eric-the still very thick about this. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:56 PM (#486471) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha From middle C up is: C D E F G A B c d e f g a b then you use c' d' etc. From middle C down is : C B, A, G, etc. For full info, see Chris Walshaw's ABC home page. All kinds of neat stuff you can do with abc notation. |
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18 Jun 01 - 06:57 PM (#486473) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha ABC Home Page I believe it's in the Mudcat FAQ also. |
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18 Jun 01 - 07:01 PM (#486475) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: dick greenhaus You might also check out ABCMUS. It's shareware, sets chords (with many different levels of "strangeness" and a whole lot moe. |
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18 Jun 01 - 07:04 PM (#486479) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman I haven't been able to download it yet. The first time I clicked on the link, I got a "page can't be displayed" error, the second time, I was prompted to save the zip file and I "got" the 1.2Mb zip file in about 30 seconds on a 28.8K connection. Not surprisingly the file was corrupt. I then got loads of JavaScript error messages even though the site displayed a message that said I should only see it if my browser is not JavaScript enabled. I don't think the site likes my IE installation, will try later using Netscape. Jon |
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18 Jun 01 - 07:10 PM (#486481) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: IvanB I used ABCMus, Alex. I preferred the chords set by pavane's program to those of ABCMus, although I wouldn't say they were 100% correct. I've never been able to get ABCMus configured to give me anywhere near what I'd consider a good set of chords for a tune. |
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18 Jun 01 - 07:54 PM (#486508) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman Well have tried using Netscape and Opera all with the same result: At some random point, the download is terminated prematurely. Not sure what to try now. Jon |
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18 Jun 01 - 08:59 PM (#486540) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Snuffy On a piano the bottom note is A,,,, and the top is a''. |
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18 Jun 01 - 10:08 PM (#486592) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca How about a url which points directly to the file without the Javascript? |
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18 Jun 01 - 10:09 PM (#486595) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha George, you mean like this: http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/ |
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19 Jun 01 - 02:31 AM (#486712) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Sorry folks, but it worked when I tried it. The free site I use doesn't seem to let me point directly to the file. I will see what I can come up with. Can anyone let me know if they have SUCESSFULLY downloaded it? Thanks. PS Glad you liked the chords. |
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19 Jun 01 - 02:36 AM (#486717) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Yes, there does seem to be a problem. Please don't try to download until I have fixed it! Sorry for for that |
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19 Jun 01 - 02:55 AM (#486722) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane I don't understand why this is happening, because the COBOL utilities seem to download OK, and they are all stored in the root in the same way. I tried adding a direct link to the home page, but that doesn't work either. (Maybe a permissions problem? That is often the case with UNIX). I suggest that anyone who would like a copy sends me an email, and I will send it out tonight to all. Thanks |
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19 Jun 01 - 03:59 AM (#486746) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Looks like it wasn't my fault at all - the problem is with the ISP. I found this message on their Help system:
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19 Jun 01 - 05:55 AM (#486790) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Thanks, Pavane. Yes, Sorcha, that's fine. Javascript, and I don't work well. |
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19 Jun 01 - 09:15 AM (#486872) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Would you believe it - my email provider (email.com) are ALSO having severe problems. I have now created an address of tycoch@hotmail.com for any requests for the software. |
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19 Jun 01 - 09:50 AM (#486899) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha George, that is HTML--HyperText Markup Link. It's easy.
This is Javascript: MZd ÿÿ ¸ @ € It has lots of little square "O" in it too........ |
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19 Jun 01 - 10:12 AM (#486924) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane No it isn't. Files starting MZ are executable files, (.com, .EXE or a variety of other extensions) compiled from any language. Squares are Window's way of showing unprintable characters. Javascript is an interpreted language, meaning that it can be read by humans (Just about)
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19 Jun 01 - 10:32 AM (#486944) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Sorcha oh. thx. Anyway, html isn't java is it? |
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19 Jun 01 - 10:38 AM (#486947) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane HTML is not JAVA nor JAVASCRIPT JSCRIPT is not JAVASCRIPT (not quite) JAVASCRIPT is not related to JAVA Bring back COBOL, I say These are all different languages To the Tower of Babel with all of them. |
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20 Jun 01 - 11:07 AM (#487835) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane IvanB - can you give me your ideal chords for the tune, so I can see if my process can be improved? By the way, I have now added a note to the web page about the inability of the ISP to download the files, and asking people to email. |
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20 Jun 01 - 11:10 AM (#487839) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca I agree. Let's go to using COBOL. Much the easiest language to understand. Simple (assuming someone used common sense) to debug too! YES, I'm old enough to know how to program in COBOL. I also like it as a language. |
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20 Jun 01 - 11:31 AM (#487866) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane See my website for some COBOL tools (haven't had a registration for 4 years now!) click here |
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20 Jun 01 - 11:53 AM (#487895) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman Sorcha, JavaScript is often mixed with HTML in web pages. It sits between <SCRIPT> and </SCRIPT> tags. It allows you to do things that are impossible with HTML but not all browsers support JavaScript and even those that do may have JavaScript disabled by the user. Bring back COBOL??? Why not re-introduce BASIC with line numbers and loads of GOTO statements while we're at it! Jon (Who likes (Turbo) Pascal the most) |
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20 Jun 01 - 11:56 AM (#487900) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane I thought Microsoft already had! HARMONY is written in VB |
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20 Jun 01 - 12:15 PM (#487927) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman Ah VB is something else although I'm not sure what and I'm not sure why Microsoft decided to take on BASIC and modify to the point where it seems to have more in common with Pascal than the old BASICs. Whatever, I guess it is the most popular language now even though I prefer my version of DELPHI to VB. Jon |
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20 Jun 01 - 08:53 PM (#488377) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman Pavane just noticed your new email address. I know ty coch is only red house but do you happen to play "Ty Coch Caerdydd"? I love that tune. Jon |
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21 Jun 01 - 02:45 AM (#488524) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane I do indeed. Learned it from Mick Tems. I always include it at the start of a set, to wake people up. I pair it up with Mwmpwy (I think that's right) Porteynon, which is a Welsh variant of The Grand Hornpipe. (Long bfore Eliza Carthy picked it up) |
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21 Jun 01 - 11:43 AM (#488871) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Just one note - as an Englishman, I find the worst thing about these Welsh tunes is introducing them at Welsh venues! Galch Gwyn Morgannwg, Ty Coch Caerdydd, Machynlleth, Pwt ar y Bus, Mwmpwy Porteynon, and that's just for starters! |
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21 Jun 01 - 11:53 AM (#488878) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Steve Parkes Come and work at the Open University--I'm quite happily writing intranet apps with html/javascript front ends and cobol back end processing! And there are three bars and no students. They've made an old man very happy! But let us know when the download works, 'cos I for one would be interested in trying it out. Steve |
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21 Jun 01 - 12:15 PM (#488903) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Jon Freeman Pavane has said that is OK for me to put it on my web space as a temprorary measuere so if any one wants to download it but has been having problems, click here. Jon |
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21 Jun 01 - 02:17 PM (#489032) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Thanks Jon. |
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22 Jun 01 - 03:15 AM (#489509) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane The program is now on my new site, which is found by clicking here. I have put a download link on the home page (with no JAVASCRIPT!). Downloading from this one should work fine - I just did a test download |
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22 Jun 01 - 08:27 AM (#489630) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: GUEST,John in Brisbane Seems to download just fine! Regards, John |
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23 Jun 01 - 04:53 AM (#490239) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: GUEST,.gargoyle Downloaded great for me... Looks wonderful...but..it has an awful time with the blues. |
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23 Jun 01 - 10:07 AM (#490303) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Give me some details, and I'll see what I can do! |
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23 Jun 01 - 10:08 AM (#490304) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Problem with blues is that it is not a straightforward major or minor key. Like modal tunes, it needs different rules. Maybe I can add some. |
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24 Jun 01 - 11:22 AM (#490825) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Hey - I just realised - is that a wind-up? I though blues (12-bar, at least) has pretty much predetermined chords? Still, I don't know about other forms. I remember Dis Disley singing what he said was a 32-bar blues (Buddy Bolden's blues). |
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25 Jun 01 - 08:34 AM (#491268) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Noreen Max's introduction to HTML, Java and all points west. |
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25 Jun 01 - 08:56 AM (#491284) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Noreen, Sorry I don't understand the relevance? Have I missed something? |
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25 Jun 01 - 08:58 AM (#491285) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: MMario I think it'as in reference to the thread creep regarding : HTML vs Jaca, vs javascript etc. |
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25 Jun 01 - 09:02 AM (#491291) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Oh I see! I hadn't looked that far back. |
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25 Jun 01 - 09:08 AM (#491297) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Noreen Sorry, pavane. Should have explained, but I knew what I meant... (as did MMario- thanks!) I just came accross Max's posting while looking for HTML stuff and it reminded me of this thread. Thought it might be helpful to others too, (wasn't intended for you, obviously) but it is thread-creep and I apologise. Slapped wrists! Noreen |
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25 Jun 01 - 11:49 AM (#491445) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Apology accepted. I did suggest an 'Uncreep' command recently, but it didn't get any support... |
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25 Jun 01 - 11:57 AM (#491451) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: MMario Understandable around here...we are mud">cats and everyone KNOWS that cats don't take to commands much better then they take to water. |
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25 Jun 01 - 05:52 PM (#491704) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Thought mudcats were really (cat)fish (of course, we don't have them here). |
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25 Jun 01 - 07:21 PM (#491785) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: Uncle_DaveO Well, I've got part way there. I've downloaded the zip file, and have it unpacked. But running the setup.exe (or I forget what the name is, but it's something like that) doesn't install the program. It says something like "Harmony is not comp;letely installed. You may try it later." Any ideas? Dave Oesterreich |
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26 Jun 01 - 02:32 AM (#491987) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Yes, it is setup.exe. It is possible that you just pressed Enter when given the warning about overwriting existing files - the default is to Quit, not to Continue, so you have to tab to or click on the Continue button, . If so, just run setup again, and it should clear. By the way, it will NOT overwrite files which are newer than the ones already installed. |
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28 Jun 01 - 05:53 AM (#493748) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane Over 240 hits since I posted. Anyone who has downloaded and needs help, or would like improvements, please let me know soon, as I may not have such easy access to the net after August. Best place to contact me for this is tycoch@hotmail.com. Hope this link works email me ---Jeff (PA)--- |
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28 Jun 01 - 05:54 AM (#493749) Subject: RE: Free program to add chords to tunes From: pavane No it didn't. Sorry again |