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04 Jul 01 - 11:12 PM (#498663) Subject: switching lyrics and melodys From: RangerSteve I just spent this glorious 4th of July directing traffic for fourteen hours while the rest of you were having fun. I'm going to bed soon, and in the morning, I hope to be entertained by some responses to this thread. You folks haven't let me down before. You can sing Take Me Out to the Ballgame to the tune of Amazing Grace. (It doesn't work too well in reverse). You can also sing How Much is That Doggie in the Window to the tune of House of the Rising Sun - the melody that the Animals used. Does anyone have any others? |
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05 Jul 01 - 12:59 AM (#498695) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: nutty I've always fancied singing GALWAY SHAWL to the tune of ROSEVILLE FAIR but have refrained as I fear my neck would be in danger. |
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05 Jul 01 - 01:16 AM (#498705) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Joan from Wigan I've sometimes sung "Black Velvet Band" to the tune of "Lakes of Ponchartrain" - it works quite well. Joan |
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05 Jul 01 - 01:39 AM (#498721) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: wysiwyg Amazing Grace, Gilligan's Island, House of the Rising Sun, O Little Town of Bethlehem-- works in all directions. Don't get stuck there now. Offshoot-- today we were joking around about hymns that would never be sung, because they would expose, if written, the true (and mistaken) attitudes that can happen in churches, and if they became anthems they'd be so silly no one could sing for laughing. One was taken from the US TV series COPS, the theme of which is: "Bad boy bad boy, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you" or some such. We had been talking about the rigid and fear-based focus on staying sinless after salvation-- the idea that a "saved" person could still burn in hell due to boo boos-- and out popped (from Hardiman): Bad boy bad boy, whatcha gonna do, get up there in heaven Jesus say "F*** you!" Since the Jesus I know would never say that, it becomes obvious that the thinking behind it is all wrong. See? ~S~ |
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05 Jul 01 - 01:45 AM (#498724) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Crazy Eddie An Irish comedian calles Neill Toibin, used sing a verse of "The Holy Ground" to the air of "Jeruselm" and vice versa as part of a sketch. It is on an album caleed Neill Toibin Live & Kicking. It works very well. |
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05 Jul 01 - 04:47 AM (#498765) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: JudeL Artisan in their "Stuff the Turkey" tour spent about half an hour giving examples of the different tunes you can sing the carol "the holly and the ivy" to, such as house of the rising sun! - needless to say they had the audience in stitches. Well worth seeing/ hearing. They explained they had started seeing what strange tunes the words would fit to was a way of passing the time when travelling between gigs. Jude |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:00 AM (#498768) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Wolfgang You can (could) easily sing the West German hymn to the tune of the East German hymn and vice versa. Wolfgang |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:13 AM (#498771) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: nutty And the tunes that fit to the words of Wild Rover are so numerous that some Festivals have been known to have Wild Rover Workshops. |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:24 AM (#498772) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: IanC Some 60s/70s songs set to "trad" tunes sound like quite good modern folk songs. I sing "Pinball Wizard" to "The White Cockade", which always goes down well ... good harmonies as well. |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:30 AM (#498775) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: sian, west wales There's a well-known Welsh hymn, Calon Lan, which you can get very sick of, 'cause it's sung ad nauseum. To allieviate the boredom,we sometimes sing to Springtime in the Rockies, or Halls of Montezuma ... so presumably you can also sing either of those to ... um ... each other. sian |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:40 AM (#498781) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Micca We frequently, and have for many years sang "Clementine" to the tune of "Bread of Heaven" and I understand that " While sheperds watched their flocks by night" is a standard almost to the the tune of "Ilkley Moor a'ht T'hat" |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:43 AM (#498785) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Les from Hull Our favourite 'Wild Rovers' are - the Boxer, Supercalifragelisticexpealidocious, Laughing Policemen, Banana Boat Song. As the many and various tunes for While Shepherds watched their Flocks all fit as well - well it all gets very confusing really. The tune for Ilkley Moor was a tune for While Shepherds for Ilkley Moor was written. Les |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:44 AM (#498786) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: IanC Yes, but Micca, that is because "Ilkla Moor" was written to one of the traditional tunes for "While Shepherds Watched", not the other way round (here). |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:47 AM (#498790) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Noreen At Llanstock, Micca led the singing of Oh my Darling Clementine to the Welsh hymn tune Bread of Heaven. Works wonderfully, and all the harmonies too... |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:54 AM (#498795) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Noreen ...beat me to it... :0) OK then, you asked for it... Dave the Gnome sang Chantilly Lace (and a pretty face) to Parting Glass. Try it! |
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05 Jul 01 - 05:58 AM (#498796) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Eluned This stuff is great! All _I_ ever knew (and I expect most of you savvy types already knew this one) is that you can sing almost ANYthing to the tune of "The Yellow Rose of Texas". It can be quite amusing on a long trip - provided you don't get sick of the tune. Warning label; do NOT let your kids, or whose-ever kids you travel with, try this, or you WILL get sick of the tune! *gryn* Eluned |
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05 Jul 01 - 06:13 AM (#498800) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Les from Hull O no - the Yellow Rose of Texas! When we had to learn poetry at school we used to sing it as songs are much easier to remember. So much of our school poetry went to that tune. I can still remember some of it - Pipes of the misty moorlands, voice of the glens and hills, The groaning of the torrents, the treble of the rills, Not the braes that bloom with heather nor the moutains dark with rain, Nor maiden bower, nor border tower have heard you sweetest strain. See - it still works, after 40 years! |
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05 Jul 01 - 09:17 AM (#498873) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: RangerSteve I was tired when I started this thread, so I forgot a really important one. You can sing the entire Rubaiyat (sp?) of Omar Khayyam to the tune of Arkansas Traveler. |
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05 Jul 01 - 09:36 AM (#498892) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Micca RangerSteve, I heard Omar Khyyam done to the tune of Hernandos Hideaway, and snorted coffee allover my newspaper, |
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05 Jul 01 - 09:38 AM (#498893) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Pseudolus I have heard a friend of mine use the the words to "The Wild Colonial boy" with the tune of Pinball Wizard.... Frank |
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05 Jul 01 - 09:50 AM (#498900) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: MMario Seamus does a great "Salute to the Armed Services" - with the Marines Hymn to about a dozen different tunes. |
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05 Jul 01 - 12:45 PM (#499026) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: RangerSteve I made a mistake, it should have been Omar Khayyam to the tune of Turkey in the Straw, but after thinking about it, I realized that Arkansas Traveler also works. If I were giving out prizes, WYSIWYG's recommendation of Gilligan's Island/Amazing Grace, MMario's Marines' Hymn to anything, and Micca's Omar Khayyam/Hernando's Hideaway would be the winners so far. Micca- I started laughing when I read your entry without even trying it out first. If I was drinking coffee I would have snorted it all over, too. I still can't keep a straight face. I'm leaving for work soon and I hope I can forget about it for the next 8 hours. (Sir, the reason I pulled you over is because you ran a red light at (snicker) 90 miles an hour (grin) as you passed a stopped school bus and nearly hit 3 children (SNORT) - oh, yeah, I'll look real professional today - thanks). |
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05 Jul 01 - 12:52 PM (#499032) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: MMario Amazing Grace is also great when sung to "House of the Rising Sun" |
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05 Jul 01 - 12:59 PM (#499041) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,Celtic Soul You can sing "Amazing Grace' to nearly anything :D Try it with "Battle Hymn of the Republic", "Gilligans Island", and "Stairway to Heaven". I know there are a bazillion others that have made me laugh over the years, but as they say, the mind is the first thing to go. ;D
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05 Jul 01 - 02:43 PM (#499125) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Joan from Wigan Derek Gifford used to (and perhaps still does) sing a version of 'John Barleycorn' to the tune of 'We Plough The Fields And Scatter'. It worked very well, and I've sometimes used that tune myself. Joan |
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05 Jul 01 - 02:53 PM (#499133) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Mrrzy The Clancy Brothers (with or without Tommy Makem, not sure) do a version of Master McGrath to the tune of Sweet Betsy From Pike, to which tune they also do (separate album) Moses-ri-too-ra-li-ay. On yet another album, they do Master McGrath to something haunting and lovely and I've never heard anything else to that tune, does anybody know what it is? Or did they write it for this song, to avoid having YET ANOTHER to the tune of Sweet Betsy? |
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05 Jul 01 - 02:54 PM (#499135) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Matt_R Tolkien's "Song of the Ents & Entwives" can be sung to "Riders In The Sky". |
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05 Jul 01 - 03:37 PM (#499169) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: UB Ed Stones "Can't Always Get Want You Want" and Lou Reed's "Take A Walk on the Wildside" |
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05 Jul 01 - 03:51 PM (#499187) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: clansfolk Favourite tune for Wild Rover - Ghost Riders in the Sky
Has anyone heard a parody on Ghost Riders - "Ghost Writers in Disguise"? - there must be one!!!!! Pete |
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05 Jul 01 - 07:06 PM (#499331) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Helen The Rose of Tralee and Tennessee Waltz. Especially the verse of the RoT which starts "She was lovely and fair..." It works as a medley too, between the two tunes. Also not drinking coffee, but definitely would have been cleaning it now from my keyboard if I had been. Helen |
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05 Jul 01 - 07:14 PM (#499337) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Burke "Ilkla Moor" (Cranbrook) was written for "Grace 'tis a Charming Sound." Being common meter it was also widely used with "While Shepherds" before the Ilkla Moor words were written. I've heard it said "While Shepherds" has been used with every CM tune written. If you can find a hymnal with a meter index you can mix & match to your hearts content. This is why tunes used to get their own names. Common meter includes Amazing Grace, Grace 'tis a charming sound, House of the Rising Sun, Gilligan's Island, anything by Emily Dickinson.
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05 Jul 01 - 11:22 PM (#499502) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Clansfolk, I just heard tonight, a friend do exactly that, Wild Colonial Boy to the Ghost Riders in the Sky tune. It worked pretty well. |
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05 Jul 01 - 11:35 PM (#499510) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: KT Ginny Hawker taught me to sing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Ghost Riders in the Sky." Still cracks me up when I remember her singing it.
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05 Jul 01 - 11:51 PM (#499520) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: JennieG We used to sing the 23rd Psalm to the tune of The Gypsy Rover (not the Wild Rover) when I went to a young peoples' group at a Presbyterian Church - gosh we thought we were being so daring that we would surely be struck down from above! But we never were. Cheers JennieG |
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06 Jul 01 - 12:16 AM (#499535) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: toadfrog The one I liked was when Garrison Kielor sang "The Raven" to the tune of "Deck us all with Boughs of Holly." |
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06 Jul 01 - 12:19 PM (#499875) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Burke Jennie, which version of Psalm 23? |
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30 Jul 01 - 11:51 AM (#517700) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,genesings@hotmail.com I believe it was Garrison Keillor I heard say that, as an English major, he learned that nearly all of Emily Dickinson's poems could be sung to "The Yellow Rose of Texas," as in: "Because I could not stop for Death, he kindly stopped for me ... ." Try some others, too. Also, I sometimes switch tunes and lyrics between "This Land is Your Land" and "You Are My Sunshine". The Easter hymn, "Christ The Lord is Risen Today" and the Christmas carol "Hark The Herald Angels Sing" can be switched (with a little tweaking, such as adding the "Alleluja" part to "Herald Angels.") |
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30 Jul 01 - 12:33 PM (#517733) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Jeremiah McCaw How couldja have missed? . . . "House of the Rising Sun" interchanged with "Puff, the Magic Dragon"?! |
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30 Jul 01 - 01:02 PM (#517764) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Ebbie When we were kids, my brothers and I discovered an old song staple sung in our German-language church could be sung to 28 secular, English-language tunes: Bedenke, Mensch, das Ende Bedenke deinem Tod Der Todt kommt oft behende Der heute frisch und roth... One male adolescent once led the song to the tune of Dang! Now I've gone blank- it's that song about a whiskered billy goat and ends with the line: Coughed up that rag and flagged the train (Somebody had tied up the goat after one escapade too many, and laid him on the train track.) Ebbie |
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30 Jul 01 - 01:12 PM (#517767) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: MMario BILL GROGAN'S GOAT
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30 Jul 01 - 03:26 PM (#517862) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: lady penelope "Rudolph the red nose reigndeer" to the "British Grenadiers." "We all live in a yellow submarine" to the tune of "Tarantara" from The Pirates of Penzance ( leaving the actual "tantara's" in place ) "Daisy, Daisy" to the "Voluntary solo" TTFN M'Lady P. |
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31 Jul 01 - 08:07 AM (#518268) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: A Wandering Minstrel Rolf Harris has been known to demonstrate his versatility by singing "Tie me Kangaroo Down" to the tune of "Land of Hope & Glory" |
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31 Jul 01 - 08:30 AM (#518280) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,redhorse At Wigan Folk Festival a few years back, I heard Ken Dodd's "Happiness" sung to the tune of "Ellen Vannen", followed by "Ellen Vannen" to the tune of "Happiness". |
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31 Jul 01 - 10:24 AM (#518346) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: M.Ted Mentioning "Puff, the Magic Dragon" made me remember that it is the same song as the verse to "MY MAMMY". However I really wanted to say that the lyrics to "A Whiter Shade of Pale" fit wonderfully well to "On the Beach at Waikiki"-- |
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31 Jul 01 - 11:24 AM (#518384) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Brían I have been laughing so hard at this thread I'm afraid I'm going break stitches from a recent surgery. I am looking forward to trying some these old chestnuts in new clothing when I am able to sing again. Brían. |
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31 Jul 01 - 04:49 PM (#518598) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Ebbie That's the one, Mario! But I just remembered the German hymn to which the boy put the tune. It wasn't 'Bedenke, Mensch' at all- it was:
Es sind zween Weg in dieser Zeit Literally-
There are two roads in these times I realize the non-essential nature of these verses here in Mudcat- but I did enjoy writing them! I may have a word wrong here and there, but it's surprising how much one remembers from one's youth. Ebbie |
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31 Jul 01 - 05:01 PM (#518604) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Gareth That hysterically funny BBC Radio 2 program " I'am sorry I haven't a Clue !" frequently does sets of tune swoping. Very dangerous to listen to whilst driving ! Gareth |
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01 Aug 01 - 08:24 AM (#518956) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,Brian Here's Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy sung to My Old Man's a Dustman. Brian |
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01 Aug 01 - 08:36 AM (#518966) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,redhorse toadfrog's "deck us all with boughs of holly" summons up marvellous images! |
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01 Aug 01 - 08:44 AM (#518970) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Dave the Gnome I've been toying with Queens 'Bohemian Rhapsody' without much success. Anyone fancy trying to put trad tunes to ALL the parts?;-) Best up to now has been Bohemian Rap but I need some drum and bass backing! Cheers DtG |
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01 Aug 01 - 09:11 AM (#518987) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Micca Of course "my old mans a dust man" is good to "the British Grenadiers" tune.. and "Daisy, daisy, give me your answer do" the the tune of "Thine is the glory ( see the conquring hero comes)" |
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01 Aug 01 - 09:55 AM (#519021) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: LR Mole "Hernando's Hideaway" is good with Frost's "Stopping By the Woods on a Snowy Evening", too: "Whose woods--these are--I think I know....." |
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18 Sep 01 - 02:50 PM (#553378) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,Genie Here are some that popped into my head today: Puff, the Magic Dragon - - Onward Christian Soldiers Beethoven's 9th "Ode To Joy" - - various nursery rhymes, e.g., Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star, Mary Had A Little Lamb How Can I Keep From Singing? - - Barbara Allen
And, via Garrison Keillor from his camp days as a youth, Praise God From Whom All Blessings Flow - - Hernando's Hideaway Blue Hawaii - - Wayfaring Stranger |
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18 Sep 01 - 10:20 PM (#553630) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: dick greenhaus SOme of my pets are Jabberwocky sung to Ode to Joy; Clementine (sung to Babylon is Fallen), Clementine (sung to Deutschland Uber Alles and Clementine (sung to Saint Anne's Reel--the dance, not the recently-composed song) |
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19 Sep 01 - 12:21 PM (#554028) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: English Jon Whorticulture sing Cotton mill girls with the following lyrics: Space Oddity, Purple Hills, Waltzing Matilda, Bohemian Rhapsody, I'll tell me ma, My gang, Chicken on a raft etc.. EJ |
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01 Oct 01 - 12:35 AM (#562284) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Genie Bringing In The Sheaves and Farmer In The Dell? |
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16 Oct 01 - 06:59 PM (#573734) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Helen Refresh: because of this thread http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=40170 |
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12 Feb 02 - 08:32 PM (#648685) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Jim Dixon Any limerick, dirty or otherwise, can be sung to the tune of Blest Be The Tie That Binds. |
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12 Feb 02 - 10:36 PM (#648799) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Mark Cohen Just to tie up one loose end (how's that for a topological incongruity?), the song Ebbie was looking for, about the goat who ate a red shirt and then saved his own life by flagging down a train, is Bill Grogan's Goat. And to provide a multicultural flavor, we used to sing the Hebrew hymn "Adon Olam" (which is in Long Meter, four lines of iambic tetrameter) to a number of different tunes. A big favorite when I was in high school in the late 60's was "Hiroshima" ("I Come and Stand at Every Door", by Nazim Hikmet) -- which, of course, meant that we were singing a Hebrew prayer to a tune used for an English translation of a Turkish poem, as also used by a Mexican-American folksinger for a Scottish ballad. (And I'm sure I'm missing some steps.) Long live the folk process! If anyone is interested in the interchangeability of shape-note tunes and words, as well as the names of the different meters, here is The Sacred Harp Meter Index. Aloha, Mark |
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12 Feb 02 - 10:53 PM (#648807) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie This was a good thread & I'm glad it got resurrected. While it's here, two adds-- Believe it or don't, "Gospel Hymns Old and New" contains "How Can I Keep from Singing?" set to the tune of "America" (Oh, Beautiful, for Spacious Skies). It ALMOST works; you have to fudge the last note of each line. That also means that America and Barbree Allen are interchangeable. Also, Cumberland Gap and Shortnin' Bread, for those tradists who were not killed by Dylan. Sorry, couldn't resist. I plan to combine those two as countermelodies rendered on the 'courtship dulcimer.' That's just before I acquire a life. :) CC |
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12 Feb 02 - 10:57 PM (#648811) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Clinton Hammond Found myself the other day singing John Barleycorn to the tune of an acapella version of Reynard The Fox I'd heard... I was pleasantly surprised how well the 2 seemed to go together that I think I'll work it up for my solo show... |
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13 Apr 02 - 01:42 PM (#689226) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Genie Amazing Grace works well with Beethoven's "Freude, Freude" tune. You can also, with a wee bit o' tweakin', sing "Puff, The Magic Dragon" to that tune. And "America, The Beautiful" works with it, too. Genie |
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14 Apr 02 - 04:56 AM (#689669) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Genie I just realized that "Aura Lee" is interchangeable with either "Puff" or "'Onward, Christian Soldiers," too. So, too, pretty much, is Beethoven's "Freude, Freude." |
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27 Aug 03 - 08:02 PM (#1009288) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: The Fooles Troupe refresh |
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27 Aug 03 - 08:54 PM (#1009308) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Margret RoadKnight I recorded "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "House of the Rising Sun" with 4-piece electric blues band on this year's "WOMEN 'N BLUES" CD for the Australian label Full House Records....5 singers (including Jeannie Lewis & Wendy Saddington), 3 tracks each. |
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28 Aug 03 - 08:04 AM (#1009503) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Helen In case you non-Aussie Mudcatters don't know, Margaret RoadKnight, Wendy Saddington and Jeannie Lewis are *icons* of Australian music. (I can't put enough asterixes around the word "icons" to even begin to express what I mean. ) Way to go, Margaret!!! Helen |
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28 Aug 03 - 09:13 AM (#1009548) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Margret RoadKnight You're too kind, Helen (well, extremely kind, anyway). Appreciate the appreciation...... now if it just translates into sales..... Cheers Margret RoadKnight (yes, one A, and a capital K) |
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28 Dec 05 - 11:37 PM (#1636483) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Celtaddict We used to play this game driving, when my daughter was younger, and I have gotten quite hooked on it alone since then; any more goodies out there? "Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer" showed up on Ebbie's Getaway recordings to two separate tunes. Seamus also sings virtually anything to the "Marine Corps Hymn." A related song stunt (?) which my kids liked that first-time hearers often are baffled by, briefly: I have heard Cindy Mangsen sing "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" one note off, as in "take ME out to the ball GAME, take ME out with the crowd, BUY . . ." so the last line goes "it's one TWO THREE STRIKES you're out at the old b-a-l-l g-a-m-e" and stops abruptly without the last note. Jerry Bryant sings one of the songs from Tolkien to some other familiar tune, possibly "The Fox Song" ("The fox went out on a chilly night, and he prayed to the moon to give him light"). Anyone know what song? |
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29 Dec 05 - 09:11 AM (#1636636) Subject: RE: switching lyrics and melodys From: Uncle_DaveO I haven't gone all through it, but try The Frozen Logger to the tune of The Halls of Montezume and vice versa. I think they Dave Oesterreich |