Four Irish Songs (!)

18 Jan 98 - 03:02 PM (#19427)
Subject: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Jim Thornton

I'm looking for the lyrics/music to a few Irish songs. If anyone can help I'd be eternaly grateful (well certainly for a few weeks anyway). The titles are (I think):-

1. The Pride of Petrivore (Or Eileen Og).
2. The (something possibly boats) of Killibegs (Not the boys)
3. Dublin in my tears.
and 4. a song that has the line in it (Not the title):- Where the strawberry beds sweep down to the Liffey.

Please....

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19 Jan 98 - 01:48 AM (#19458)
Subject: Lyr Add: PRIDE OF PETROVAR^^^
From: judy

Typed out and taught to me by Janet Cornwall. (Thanks Janet)

Eileen Oge
(The Pride of Petravore)
Lyrics by Percy French (1854-1920)

Eileen Oge! an' that the darlin's name is;
Through the Barony her features they were famous;
If we loved her, who is there to blame us,
For wasn't she the Pride of Petravore?

But her beauty made us all so shy,
Not a man could look her in the eye,
Boys, O boys! sure that's the reason why
We're mournin' for the Pride of Petravore.
Chorus


Chorus:
Eileen Oge! me heart is growin' grey
Ever since the day you wandered far away;
Eileen Oge! there's good fish in the say (sea)
But there's no one like the Pride of Petravore.


Friday at the fair of Ballintubber,
Eileen met McGrath the cattle jobber,
I'd like to se me mark upon the robber,
For he stole away the Pride of Petravore.

He never seem'd to see the girl at all,
Even when she ogled him underneath her shawl,
Looking big and masterful when she was lookin' small,
Most provoking for the Pride of Petravore.
(Chorus)


So it went as it was in the beginning,
Eileen Oge was set upon the winning;
Bigt McGrath contentedly was grinning,
Being courted by the Pride of Petravore.

Sez he "I know a girl that could knock you into fits,"
At that, Eileen nearly lost her wits.
The upshot of the ruction was that now the robber sits
With his arm around the Pride of Petravore.
(Chorus)


Boys, O boys! with fate 'tis hard to grapple,
Of my eye 'tis Eileen was the apple,
And now to see her walkin' to the Chapel
Wid the hardest featured man in Petravore.

Now boys this is all I have to say:
When you do your courtin' make no display,
If you want them to run after you just walk the other way,
For they're mostly like the Pride of Petravore.


Oge=young (Tune learned from Ian Tyson and Sylvia Fricker)

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19 Jan 98 - 04:07 AM (#19460)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Wolfgang Hell

Hi Jim,
the last request is called "The Ferryman" and can be found with music on this German site.
Wolfgang

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19 Jan 98 - 08:54 AM (#19465)
Subject: Tune Add: EILEEN OGE
From: Alan of Australia

G'day,
Here's the tune to Eileen Oge:-

MIDI file: EILEENOG.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: Eileen Oge
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Key: F
Tempo: 120 (500000 microsec/crotchet)
Start
0000 1 62 127 0718 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0718 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 70 127 0118 0 70 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0242 1 60 127 0718 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0238 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0358 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0118 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0358 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 67 127 0358 0 67 127 0002 1 65 127 0118 0 65 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0242 1 62 127 0718 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0718 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 70 127 0118 0 70 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 65 127 0358 0 65 127 0002 1 62 127 0118 0 62 127 0002 1 65 127 0358 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 65 127 0118 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0358 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0118 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 1438 0 62 127 0482 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 72 127 0358 0 72 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 65 127 0358 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0958 0 69 127 0002 1 70 127 0478 0 70 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 67 127 0478 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0358 0 67 127 0002 1 65 127 0118 0 65 127 0002 1 62 127 0358 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0118 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0958 0 62 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 72 127 0358 0 72 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 65 127 0358 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0478 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 62 127 0358 0 62 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0358 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0118 0 65 127 0002 1 62 127 1438 0 62 127 0482 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0718 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0238 0 74 127 0002 1 72 127 0358 0 72 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0958 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 64 127 0118 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0358 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0118 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 62 127 0238 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0238 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0718 0 62 127 0242 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0478 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0718 0 74 127 0002 1 74 127 0238 0 74 127 0002 1 72 127 0358 0 72 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 65 127 0358 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 69 127 0478 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0238 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0238 0 69 127 0002 1 62 127 0358 0 62 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0118 0 69 127 0002 1 69 127 0358 0 69 127 0002 1 67 127 0118 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0358 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0118 0 65 127 0002 1 62 126 1888 0 62 126
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the January 15 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Eileen Oge
M:4/4
Q:1/4=120
K:F
D3EF3G|A3/2B/2A3/2G/2FD2z|C3DE3/2E/2EF|G3/2A/2G3/2F/2EC2z|
D3EF3G|A3/2B/2A3/2G/2F3/2D/2F3/2G/2|A3/2A/2A3/2A/2A3/2F/2G3/2E/2|
D6z2|d2d2d2d2|c3/2A/2F3/2G/2A4|B2E2E2G2|G3/2F/2D3/2D/2D4|
d2d2d2d2|c3/2A/2F3/2G/2A2A3/2A/2|D3/2A/2A3/2A/2A3/2G/2E3/2F/2|
D6z2|d2d2d3d|c3/2A/2FGA4|A3/2E/2E3/2E/2E3G|
GFDDD3z|d2d2d3d|c3/2A/2F3/2G/2A2AA|D3/2A/2A3/2A/2A3/2G/2E3/2F/2|
D31/4||

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19 Jan 98 - 08:56 AM (#19466)
Subject: Chords Add: EILEEN OGE
From: Alan of Australia

And here's how the chords fit the words:-

A NATION ONCE AGAIN

 Dm 
Eileen Oge! an' that the darlin's name is;
   C  
Through the Barony her features they were famous;
Dm    
If we loved her, who is there to blame us,
                    A7            Dm 
For wasn't she the Pride of Petravore?

 Bb             F  
But her beauty made us all so shy,
 Gm    A7        Dm  
Not a man could look her in the eye,
 Bb                  F                A7 
Boys, O boys! sure that's the reason why
       Dm                A7           Dm 
We're mournin' for the Pride of Petravore.

     Bb             F 
    Eileen Oge! me heart is growin' grey
    Gm              A7      Dm  
    Ever since the day you wandered far away;
     Bb                  F 
    Eileen Oge! there's good fish in the say (sea)
                Dm                A7           Dm 
    But there's no one like the Pride of Petravore.

Cheers,
Alan

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19 Jan 98 - 09:01 AM (#19467)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Alan of Australia

Well of course the title's really Eileen Oge. Ya gotta watch that copy&paste!!

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20 Jan 98 - 01:59 PM (#19535)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From:

Thanks (loads!) for all your help. Alan, Wolfgang and Judy. I had an idea Oge (Og) meant something like the American Jr. but the peoples names I have seen it in didn't have the 'e' on the end.

I'm in the process of learning the Irish language, but it seems a long (difficult) process.

Alan I didn't quite follow the ref. to A NATION ONCE AGAIN, surely these aren't the same tunes?

Jim Thornton. (No conection with sweet sixteen)

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20 Jan 98 - 07:51 PM (#19557)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Alan of Australia

Jim,
The reference to 'A Nation' was a phurphy (Aussie slang) resulting from an incomplete copy&paste.

Cheers,
Alan

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21 Jan 98 - 03:52 AM (#19581)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Murray

About "Oge"--the proper Irish is OG, with an acute accent on the O [I can't figure out how to reproduce that]--and it's pronounced to rhyme with "rogue", the acute = long vowel [the Irish call it "fada", "long"]. Percy French is just spelling it phonetically so that layabouts like the English can pronounce it properly. One of the troubles with Irish songs [and Scots too, come to that] is that there is often great discrepancy in the transliteration from the original, result being that you get umpteen very strange titles from one Irish one.

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21 Jan 98 - 09:17 AM (#19591)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Bruce O.

Murray, I just had a big to-do about Gaelic accents and was told you put a / after a letter to indicate an accent. Oge, incidently is 'young'. Drumion Down Oge is an Irish tune 'Young brown cow'.

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21 Jan 98 - 09:23 AM (#19593)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Bruce O.

If you take Derry Down to be Gaelic it's Brown Oak. Derry (daire) (or Londonderry as the English renamed it somewhere around 1625) was named from the oaks that grew there.

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13 Feb 99 - 11:13 AM (#58418)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: steve

Thank you for this great site!!I found most the songs my father and family use to sing. Thanks again Great database.

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13 Feb 99 - 09:06 PM (#58499)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Brakn

See the thread Saturday night in Dublin.

Regards Mick Bracken

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28 Feb 99 - 10:06 PM (#60808)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: steven s

I'm looking for the the lyrics to, West country lady, sung by ryan's fancy..Thanks for any help..

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28 Feb 99 - 10:39 PM (#60813)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: bseed(charleskratz)

I have no idea what the tune is for "The Ferrymen" but as I read the words my mind supplied the tune "Darling Nelly Gray" which isn't even Irish, but which may well have Irish roots. --seed

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01 Mar 99 - 07:31 PM (#60928)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: Tim Jaques [e-mail]

I have the lyrics to West Country Lady somewhere. If and when I find them I will post them. I think I have that Ryan's Fancy LP.

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04 Mar 99 - 04:03 PM (#61290)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From:

The song about Killybegs *might* be one recorded on one of the Chieftains' albums, Another Country, but I can't lay my hands on it right now.

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23 Mar 99 - 12:11 AM (#65188)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: [e-mail]

found this site while trying to find lyrics to "eilleen og."i'm not sure if this is true and would welcome any input. my aunt from co. cavan told me yrs. ago that the pedravor in percy french's song referred to my gr. grandfather, peter mcgovern, also known as pedravor or "peter of the road." he was from glangevlin i think, so i'm wondering if this is true and did anyone else ever hear this? he lived about 1860's i think. maryann

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29 Mar 04 - 11:41 PM (#1149606)
Subject: RE: Four Irish Songs (!)
From: GUEST,[e-mail]

I think anon. (2 notes above) might be correct about the reference to Killybegs. This is the title of the song, which appears on "Another Country", a great CD, one of the earlier collaborations between the Chieftains and American musicians. The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band figures prominently on this album, and in fact the song is sung by Jimmy Ibbotson, with credits to both he and Paddy Moloney.

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